Half Time Show.
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mahogant rush became frank marino and mahogany rush. i don't know why the name change since frank had started the band. maybe it was to promote his guitar prowess. anyways their 'live' album was one of my first and loved the thehuge synth voice over as their introduction. they played the midwest circuit quite a bit and caught them at the agora in '77. yes he did sound a lot like hendrix but they still put out a monster show.
my fave trippin song from them:
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Like somebody said earlier, the R&R HoF is just a contest to see who's slept with the most Sony and BMG execs. It's a fucking joke. God. Arguing with you is like arguing with my great aunt. All I can hear is "Get off my lawn, whippersnapper."
Yeah, Satch taught Vai.
Arguing with me is like arguing with someone that sees the big picture where you are looking through a pinhole. The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is not what YOU think it should be. It covers an entire gamut of musical tastes, some of which fit my tastes, much of which does not. I said I wasn't going to do it, but here is a lengthy list of acts that have as much of a resume to be inducted into the HOF as Rush. Rush can be included in this list, but they are by no means above this list. And FYI, this starts all the way back and comes forward in time:
Pat Boone, Ella Fitzgerald, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, The Tokens, The Cadillacs, Danny and the Juniors, Patsy Cline, Petula Clark, Screamin Jay Hawkins, The Big Bopper, Joe South, The Kingston Trio, Paul Anka, Carol King, Jerry Butler, The Miracles, Neil Sedaka, Bobby Rydell, Chubby Checker, Jan and Dean, Joan Baez, Link Wray, Ben E. King, Judy Collins, Mary Wells, Paul Revere and the Raiders, The Spinners, Willie Nelson, Glen Campbell, Gordon Lightfoot, Little Eva, Lou Christie, Patti LaBelle, Peter Paul and Mary, Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, The Crystals, Dionne Warwick, Gerry and the Pacemakers, Leslie Gore, Butterfield Blues Band, The Searchers, The Seekers, Johnny Rivers, Marianne Faithful, The Moody Blues, Peter and Gordon, Alex Harvey, The Zombies, Boz Scaggs, Sonny & Cher, Dobie Gray, The Easybeats, Edwin Starr, Gary Lewis and the Playboys, Golden Earring, The Guess Who, Herman's Hermits, The Turtles, The Vogues, Richie Havens, Randy Newman, The Shangri-Las, The Association, Cat Stevens, The Chambers Brothers, The Grass Roots, Harry Chapin, Janis Ian, The Left Bank, The Monkees, Tim Buckley, The Troggs, Tommy James and the Shondells, The 5th Dimension, Arlo Guthrie, The Box Tops, Country Joe and the Fish, The Crazy World of Arthur Brown, Harry Nillson, Moby Grape, Procul Harum, Ten Years After, Vanilla Fudge, Blood Sweat and Tears, Deep Purple, Free, Iron Butterfly, Jethro Tull, Robert Fripp, Steve Miller Band, T.Rex, Blind Faith, The Carpenters, The Chi-Lites, Chicago, Grand Funk Railroad, Humble Pie, The James Gang, Joe Cocker, Johnny Winter, King Crimson, Linda Ronstadt, Mott the Hoople, Poco, Seals and Crofts, Slade, Three Dog Night, Warren Zevon, Yes, Argent, Badfinger, Brownsville Station, Charlie Daniels, Derek and the Dominos, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Hot Tuna, The J. Geils Band, Ringo Starr, Supertramp, Todd Rundgren, Uriah Heep, America, Carly Simon, The Doobie Bros., Electric Light Orchestra, Gerry Rafferty and Stealer's Wheel, Little Feat, Meatloaf, Nazareth, Thin Lizzy, War, Yoko Ono, Blue Oyster Cult, Dan Fogelberg, Hall and Oates, Joe Walsh, Lou Reed, Loggins and Messina, Peter Frampton, Pure Prairie League, The Raspberries, Roxy Music, Styx, Bachman-Turner-Overdrive, The New York Dolls, Robin Trower, Bad Company, Eno, Donna Summer, Judas Priest, Kansas, KISS, KC and the Sunshine Band, Robert Palmer, Chaka Khan, Journey, Foreigner, Ted Nugent, Alabama, The Outlaws, Boston, Heart, Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes, Cheap Trick, Peter Garbriel, Teddy Prendergast, The Cars, The Cure, DEVO, Dire Straits, Joe Jackson, The Neville Bros., Rick James, Whitesnake, The B-52s, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Pat Benatar, Simple Minds, The Sugar Hill Gang, Twisted Sister, Afrika Bambataa, The Go Gos, Huey Lewis and the News, INXS, Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, Billy Idol Bow Wow Wow, Depeche Mode, Duran Duran, The Eurythmics, Husker Du, Lionel Richie, The Stray Cats, Tears for Fears, Wang Chung, Big Country, Culture Club, George Clinton, Janet Jackson, Marshal Crenshaw, Sting, Wham, Bon Jovi, Cyndi Lauper, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Sade, Whitney Houston, Allison Kraus, Enya, Indigo Girls, Soundgarden, Gloria Estafan, Jane's Addiction, MC Hammer, Public Enemy, and a couple of acts that will be eligible for the first time in 2013: Nirvana, Phish
Arguing with me is like arguing with someone that sees the big picture where you are looking through a pinhole. The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is not what YOU think it should be. It covers an entire gamut of musical tastes, some of which fit my tastes, much of which does not. I said I wasn't going to do it, but here is a lengthy list of acts that have as much of a resume to be inducted into the HOF as Rush. Rush can be included in this list, but they are by no means above this list. And FYI, this starts all the way back and comes forward in time:
Ella Fitzgerald, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, The Big Bopper, Joe South, Neil Sedaka, Chubby Checker, Willie Nelson,(definitely deserves in) Gordon Lightfoot, Peter Paul and Mary, Dionne Warwick, Gerry and the Pacemakers, The Moody Blues, Alex Harvey (you've got to be kidding), Deep Purple, Free, Jethro Tull, Chicago, Linda Ronstadt, Poco, Three Dog Night- immensely popular, though their music makes me want to puke , Yes, Charlie Daniels, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Uriah Heep, The Doobie Bros., Electric Light Orchestra, Blue Oyster Cult, Dan Fogelberg, Styx- like most of their stuff but not Hall worthy-IMHO, Bachman-Turner-Overdrive, Bad Company, Judas Priest, KISS, KC and the Sunshine Band, Journey, Foreigner, Alabama, Boston, Heart (nominated this year, and worthy), The Cars, Dire Straits, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Pat Benatar, Lionel Richie, Janet Jackson, Bon Jovi, Cyndi Lauper, Stevie Ray Vaughn, 2013: Nirvana, Phish
We're from the same time zone, but I had to edit your list, and even some of the folks I left up there are damn marginal in my book. (Maybe not, taking a complete look at who's in, they set the bar too low IMHO). Patti Smith? Beastie Boys? Blondie? Really? K C and the Sunshine band popularized disco, but does that make them worthy?
OK, the biggest travesties are Willie Nelson (get the guy in while he's still alive), Yes, Jethro Tull, and the Doobie Brothers. Personally, If you asked me who I'd put in first- Rush or Kiss, I'd have to flip a coin.
Problem is your original list has too many one hit- or one shot wonders. & I don't care if they're anthems, and changed to course of music. (You missed Steppenwolf- "Born to be Wild" if that wasn't ever an anthem, I don't know what was.) I would take Derek & the Dominoes "Layla", "Blind Faith", the "Yes" album, Jethro Tull's "Benefit" [difference there being Yes & Tull had several other GREAT albums which IMHO makes them Hall worthy] Johnny Winter "And" (one notch below- before he got strung out on Heroin) (maybe Frampton comes alive} in my choices if you only allowed me to bring 10 CDs to a desert island. The football analogy would be Doug Williams was a Super Bowl MVP- does that make him Football HOF worthy?
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So i said earlier that I found out Madonna went to Michigan and is a fan
you know who else is?
Kate Upton
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
mahogant rush became frank marino and mahogany rush. i don't know why the name change since frank had started the band. maybe it was to promote his guitar prowess. anyways their 'live' album was one of my first and loved the thehuge synth voice over as their introduction. they played the midwest circuit quite a bit and caught them at the agora in '77. yes he did sound a lot like hendrix but they still put out a monster show.
my fave trippin song from them:
mahogant rush became frank marino and mahogany rush. i don't know why the name change since frank had started the band. maybe it was to promote his guitar prowess. anyways their 'live' album was one of my first and loved the thehuge synth voice over as their introduction. they played the midwest circuit quite a bit and caught them at the agora in '77. yes he did sound a lot like hendrix but they still put out a monster show.
my fave trippin song from them:
Glad you mentioned Frank. He's one of My all time great influences and IMO...the best live jammer ever...the term "BAD ASS" just comes to mind. I cant think of any other guitarist I could associate or apply that term to. And theres certainly some great players out there.
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Rush isn't in yet. They should be someday. Grbac, Plum and whoever else you named have no business ever being in the HOF.
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Zombo said:
LOL. Loverboy. Are they really in the Canadian Hall? Is there really a Candian Hall?
Zombo
Yes, and Yes.
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So i said earlier that I found out Madonna went to Michigan and is a fan
you know who else is?
Kate Upton
So i said earlier that I found out Madonna went to Michigan and is a fan
you know who else is?
Kate Upton
I know she is from Michigan, but I didn't know she went to Michigan, though I think it must have just been a short time because i don't think she ever graduated.
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She didn't go there, she's just a fan.
Miss America 2010 went here though
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
She didn't go there, she's just a fan.
Miss America 2010 went here though
Well hell, I probably have as much or more connection to the U of M as she does then. Hell, I sit right here in the town that produced some of the greatest assets in the history of Michigan football.
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She didn't go there, she's just a fan.
Miss America 2010 went here though
So? If you want to talk football, the reason for Michigan's recent decline into the dumpster was Tressell kept all the Ohio kids in Ohio.
Really not kidding. Michigan wouldn't do squat if they didn't raid Ohio. Michigan= 15 kids from Ohio, Ohio State 2 kids from Michigan. I rest my case. Get ready to be Meyerized, Big Boo-hoo.
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You keep mentioning coldplay. Coldplay is not in green days league.
Yes. Coldplay is more well known and probably with bigger hits.
Give a little thanks to Gwyneth.
Yes. Coldplay is more well known and probably with bigger hits.
Give a little thanks to Gwyneth.
There's no way on gods green earth the above statement is true lol.......coldplay wishes they could be greenday
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She didn't go there, she's just a fan.
Miss America 2010 went here though
So? If you want to talk football, the reason for Michigan's recent decline into the dumpster was Tressell kept all the Ohio kids in Ohio.
Really not kidding. Michigan wouldn't do squat if they didn't raid Ohio. Michigan= 15 kids from Ohio, Ohio State 2 kids from Michigan. I rest my case. Get ready to be Meyerized, Big Boo-hoo.
So? If you want to talk football, the reason for Michigan's recent decline into the dumpster was Tressell kept all the Ohio kids in Ohio.
Really not kidding. Michigan wouldn't do squat if they didn't raid Ohio. Michigan= 15 kids from Ohio, Ohio State 2 kids from Michigan. I rest my case. Get ready to be Meyerized, Big Boo-hoo.
The first part of your post is wrong, I really don't want to go into an actual explanation though because you'd probably just yell and scream and not listen like a normal OSU fan
The second part frankly doesn't matter. I didn't realize state schools were only allowed to recruit their own state, and were judged by how many kids they have from within their state
Finally, we'll see how Meer does. It is pretty stupid to think he'll be the greatest coach ever now that he is at OSU. You should also hope he's there for more than 4 years
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Yes. Coldplay is more well known and probably with bigger hits.
Give a little thanks to Gwyneth.
There's no way on gods green earth the above statement is true lol.......coldplay wishes they could be greenday
There's no way on gods green earth the above statement is true lol.......coldplay wishes they could be greenday
Did you read the statement? I said Coldplay is more well known than Green Day.....and for my money, no, I doubt that Coldplay wishes they could be Green Day. From what I have heard of them, Coldplay is much better.
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So? If you want to talk football, the reason for Michigan's recent decline into the dumpster was Tressell kept all the Ohio kids in Ohio.
Really not kidding. Michigan wouldn't do squat if they didn't raid Ohio. Michigan= 15 kids from Ohio, Ohio State 2 kids from Michigan. I rest my case. Get ready to be Meyerized, Big Boo-hoo.
The first part of your post is wrong, I really don't want to go into an actual explanation though because you'd probably just yell and scream and not listen like a normal OSU fan
The second part frankly doesn't matter. I didn't realize state schools were only allowed to recruit their own state, and were judged by how many kids they have from within their state
Finally, we'll see how Meer does. It is pretty stupid to think he'll be the greatest coach ever now that he is at OSU. You should also hope he's there for more than 4 years
The first part of your post is wrong, I really don't want to go into an actual explanation though because you'd probably just yell and scream and not listen like a normal OSU fan
The second part frankly doesn't matter. I didn't realize state schools were only allowed to recruit their own state, and were judged by how many kids they have from within their state
Finally, we'll see how Meer does. It is pretty stupid to think he'll be the greatest coach ever now that he is at OSU. You should also hope he's there for more than 4 years
I don't think you understand what he is saying. He is saying, if it weren't for the Buckeyes i.e. people from Ohio, that were associated with Michigan, Michigan's program would be on a par with say, Illinois.
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Why does the fact that a player came from another state matter?
They aren't buckeyes, they're he athletes from Ohio. If they truly were buckeyes they'd go to OSU.
I'm not doubting some of the best Wolverines have cone from Ohio, but I don't see why that matters
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Why does the fact that a player came from another state matter?
They aren't buckeyes, they're he athletes from Ohio. If they truly were buckeyes they'd go to OSU.
I'm not doubting some of the best Wolverines have cone from Ohio, but I don't see why that matters
Why does the fact that a player came from another state matter?
They aren't buckeyes, they're he athletes from Ohio. If they truly were buckeyes they'd go to OSU.
I'm not doubting some of the best Wolverines have cone from Ohio, but I don't see why that matters
It matters in the sense that it is evident that the whole state of Michigan can't hold a candle to the State of Ohio when it comes to producing football talent.
Michigan has to scavenge good players from Ohio to be worth a spit.
Michigan is inferior. If it has any parity with OSU it is because it has Ohio to thank for it.
Bo Schembechler only took the job at Michigan because Ohio State wasn't available. And yes, he was a Buckeye....his masters degree was from OSU (undergrad Miami, Oh).
So, whether it "matters" or not..you are now aware of it. Just keep that thought in your mind as you walk around campus:...big M? Not as good as Big O.
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Why does the fact that a player came from another state matter?
They aren't buckeyes, they're he athletes from Ohio. If they truly were buckeyes they'd go to OSU.
I'm not doubting some of the best Wolverines have cone from Ohio, but I don't see why that matters
It matters in the sense that it is evident that the whole state of Michigan can't hold a candle to the State of Ohio when it comes to producing football talent.
Michigan has to scavenge good players from Ohio to be worth a spit.
Michigan is inferior. If it has any parity with OSU it is because it has Ohio to thank for it.
Bo Schembechler only took the job at Michigan because Ohio State wasn't available. And yes, he was a Buckeye....his masters degree was from OSU (undergrad Miami, Oh).
So, whether it "matters" or not..you are now aware of it. Just keep that thought in your mind as you walk around campus:...big M? Not as good as Big O.
It matters in the sense that it is evident that the whole state of Michigan can't hold a candle to the State of Ohio when it comes to producing football talent.
Michigan has to scavenge good players from Ohio to be worth a spit.
Michigan is inferior. If it has any parity with OSU it is because it has Ohio to thank for it.
Bo Schembechler only took the job at Michigan because Ohio State wasn't available. And yes, he was a Buckeye....his masters degree was from OSU (undergrad Miami, Oh).
So, whether it "matters" or not..you are now aware of it. Just keep that thought in your mind as you walk around campus:...big M? Not as good as Big O.
lol
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself.
All time record 58-43-6 Michigan
444 days since OSU beat Michigan
too bad we "can't hold a candle" to Ohio....
and by "scavenge" do you mean get commits from 5 star Olinemen that OSU offered?
and if there is one thing I'll think to myself regarding OSU as I walk around campus it'll be thank god I was smart enough to get into Michigan
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
FYI, the only decent player that I recall that was from Michigan that came to Ohio State was Pepper Johnson. There may have been others.
On the 2011 OSU roster of about 100 players the only one that come from Michigan are:
Dionte Allen CB Sr.
Johnathan Hankins DL Soph.
Reif Fragel TE Jr.
I don't think these guys were big contributors. Pretty much scrubs.
And, also, of Michigan's roster of similar size: Twenty (20) of their players were from Ohio. And honestly, I don't know the Michigan players to tell you whether or how many of them were starters. I only know that Dennard Robinson is from Florida.
OSU had 8 players on its roster from Fla., second only to Ohio. They also had 5 players from Pa. 3 each from Texas, Georgia, Illinois and Virginia; 2 from Maryland and North Carolina, and one each from Kentucky and Indiana.
This was the 2011 roster.
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It matters in the sense that it is evident that the whole state of Michigan can't hold a candle to the State of Ohio when it comes to producing football talent.
Michigan has to scavenge good players from Ohio to be worth a spit.
Michigan is inferior. If it has any parity with OSU it is because it has Ohio to thank for it.
Bo Schembechler only took the job at Michigan because Ohio State wasn't available. And yes, he was a Buckeye....his masters degree was from OSU (undergrad Miami, Oh).
So, whether it "matters" or not..you are now aware of it. Just keep that thought in your mind as you walk around campus:...big M? Not as good as Big O.
lol
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself.
All time record 58-43-6 Michigan
444 days since OSU beat Michigan
too bad we "can't hold a candle" to Ohio....
and by "scavenge" do you mean get commits from 5 star Olinemen that OSU offered?
and if there is one thing I'll think to myself regarding OSU as I walk around campus it'll be thank god I was smart enough to get into Michigan
lol
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself.
are you high?
look at the number of HOF players per state...
michigan has 4...
ohio has 23...
pennsylvania has 29...
texas - 28. illinois and california have 17.
OH, PA, and TX are the football factories. there's no disputing that.
the 2012 HS recruiting class? top 100 has......ZERO.....players from michigan. PA and ohio? roughly 12-15 players....
lets not get all silly and think michigan actually grows players.....you actually just get what we dont want.
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It matters in the sense that it is evident that the whole state of Michigan can't hold a candle to the State of Ohio when it comes to producing football talent.
Michigan has to scavenge good players from Ohio to be worth a spit.
Michigan is inferior. If it has any parity with OSU it is because it has Ohio to thank for it.
Bo Schembechler only took the job at Michigan because Ohio State wasn't available. And yes, he was a Buckeye....his masters degree was from OSU (undergrad Miami, Oh).
So, whether it "matters" or not..you are now aware of it. Just keep that thought in your mind as you walk around campus:...big M? Not as good as Big O.
lol
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself.
All time record 58-43-6 Michigan
444 days since OSU beat Michigan
too bad we "can't hold a candle" to Ohio....
and by "scavenge" do you mean get commits from 5 star Olinemen that OSU offered?
and if there is one thing I'll think to myself regarding OSU as I walk around campus it'll be thank god I was smart enough to get into Michigan
lol
sure buddy. whatever you have to tell yourself.
All time record 58-43-6 Michigan
444 days since OSU beat Michigan
too bad we "can't hold a candle" to Ohio....
Something that you are probably don't know is that most of the advantage that Michigan holds over OSU was gained in the 19th and early part of the 20th century, when, indeed, Michigan was the football powerhouse, and OSU was essentially the equivalent of a MAC school. Since the end of World War I however, the record between the two teams is 45-44-1 with Mich with that one game advantage..
and by "scavenge" do you mean get commits from 5 star Olinemen that OSU offered?
Actually, yes, that would be a possible example. The guy (from Lakewood, I believe) gives an oral commitment to OSU, but when Tressel resigns he switches to Michigan.
Though, that is really not the type of case I am talking about. That is somewhat understandable. A team suffers an issue like OSU, it is not beyond the pale that some kids are likely to switch teams. Ohio State has done that with several Penn State verbal committees when they had their trouble.
No, I just mean that Michigan HAS to recuit Ohio football talent for it to have any shot at being any good at all because there is not enough talent in Michigan.
and if there is one thing I'll think to myself regarding OSU as I walk around campus it'll be thank god I was smart enough to get into Michigan.
(I guess I could say: "but not smart enough to get into OSU)....but we at talking about football only here. Sure, as an engineering student you would have wanted to go to the best place possible for you....but if you were a football player, and you wanted to go to the best...you would have picked Ohio State).
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