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  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
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    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    Just wonderinng

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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      Of course not. Nice story though, as a metaphor and all.

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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        Question:

        If you had been a fifth-grade kid, alone in the woods of your farm, and you slipped into

        a deep spring, at 2 degrees above zero.... and you couldn't get out for anything.

        And you went through nearly all the stages of what you later would know as hypothermia...

        and you lived to tell about it because you were retrieved out of the spring in the last few

        minutes of your young life.....

        while you were all alone, still?

        Would you still think that God is not there?

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          Question:

          If you had been a fifth-grade kid, alone in the woods of your farm, and you slipped into

          a deep spring, at 2 degrees above zero.... and you couldn't get out for anything.

          And you went through nearly all the stages of what you later would know as hypothermia...

          and you lived to tell about it because you were retrieved out of the spring in the last few

          minutes of your young life.....

          while you were all alone, still?

          Would you still think that God is not there?

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          @calfoxwc said:

          Question:

          If you had been a fifth-grade kid, alone in the woods of your farm, and you slipped into

          a deep spring, at 2 degrees above zero.... and you couldn't get out for anything.

          And you went through nearly all the stages of what you later would know as hypothermia...

          and you lived to tell about it because you were retrieved out of the spring in the last few

          minutes of your young life.....

          while you were all alone, still?

          Would you still think that God is not there?

          lol, what the hell are you talking about

          also, just because you don't believe in creationism doesn't mean you don't believe in god, just saying

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            I asked a question. Were you afraid to answer it?

            It is a legit question, btw...

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              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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              I can answer it: I wouldn't even begin to think that this scenario somehow involved God. People slip through the ice all the time. Water that cold brings on hypothermia quickly. If someone pulls you out and you can get warm again, you're likely to recover. A near-death experience like that doesn't suggest anything about God. It suggests that you shouldn't walk on thin ice.

              Why don't you answer his question?

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                Oh, that was a question?

                Then no I would think its gods work everytime someone almost dies but doesn't.

                And like I said believing in God and believing in creationism aren't dependent on one another.

                Do you believe in creationism Cal?

                How old do you think the Earth is?

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                  And after you answer that you can answer what you think about this five year old who fell through the ice.

                  Also proof that God is there?

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                    And after you answer that you can answer what you think about this five year old who fell through the ice.

                    Also proof that God is there?

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                    VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                    And after you answer that you can answer what you think about this five year old who fell through the ice.

                    Also proof that God is there?

                    Proof that he was praying to the wrong god.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                      You fail to read, again.

                      I was rescued out of that spring in the woods.

                      I went from disgust, to nearly falling asleep underwater,

                      after the violent shaking subsided.

                      I was rescued by no human being. There was no one there but me.

                      And, Heck, that's pretty sad for you to cherry pick that drowning off the internet.

                      The lad didn't have chance. That isn't what I'm saying at all.

                      I was rescured..... But it wasn't a person who rescued me.

                      Back to the question - if a miracle happened to you... wouldn't you think it was impossible without God working that wonder?

                      Sometimes there's no way for the miracle to happen, sad to say..

                      Of course miracles don't just happen all the time. That has been a question that on the back of my mind for years.

                      In the last few minutes I had left, I figure... I was rescued. By no human being.

                      It was a miracle I'm here. Would you realize that miracles just don't happen ?

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        Shit happens. Not the best proof of God I've ever heard.

                        Hypothermia can affect your brain

                        Lack of oxygen in a near death experience can cause you too hallucinate

                        Again, none of this has anything to do with the question I asked.

                        Sure there may be a god, and maybe you think he performed a miracle, but I am asking you about whether or not you believe in creationism. And how old do you think the earth is?

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          You fail to read, again.

                          I was rescued out of that spring in the woods.

                          I went from disgust, to nearly falling asleep underwater,

                          after the violent shaking subsided.

                          I was rescued by no human being. There was no one there but me.

                          And, Heck, that's pretty sad for you to cherry pick that drowning off the internet.

                          The lad didn't have chance. That isn't what I'm saying at all.

                          I was rescured..... But it wasn't a person who rescued me.

                          Back to the question - if a miracle happened to you... wouldn't you think it was impossible without God working that wonder?

                          Sometimes there's no way for the miracle to happen, sad to say..

                          Of course miracles don't just happen all the time. That has been a question that on the back of my mind for years.

                          In the last few minutes I had left, I figure... I was rescued. By no human being.

                          It was a miracle I'm here. Would you realize that miracles just don't happen ?

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                          VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          You fail to read, again.

                          I was rescued out of that spring in the woods.

                          I went from disgust, to nearly falling asleep underwater,

                          after the violent shaking subsided.

                          I was rescued by no human being. There was no one there but me.

                          And, Heck, that's pretty sad for you to cherry pick that drowning off the internet.

                          The lad didn't have chance. That isn't what I'm saying at all.

                          I was rescured..... But it wasn't a person who rescued me.

                          Back to the question - if a miracle happened to you... wouldn't you think it was impossible without God working that wonder?

                          Sometimes there's no way for the miracle to happen, sad to say..

                          Of course miracles don't just happen all the time. That has been a question that on the back of my mind for years.

                          In the last few minutes I had left, I figure... I was rescued. By no human being.

                          It was a miracle I'm here. Would you realize that miracles just don't happen ?

                          There was nothing supernatural about what happened. You were screaming and your cow or donkey heard you and pulled you out. Wouldn't be the first case where an animal helped out a human in distress.

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                            @calfoxwc said:

                            You fail to read, again.

                            I was rescued out of that spring in the woods.

                            I went from disgust, to nearly falling asleep underwater,

                            after the violent shaking subsided.

                            I was rescued by no human being. There was no one there but me.

                            And, Heck, that's pretty sad for you to cherry pick that drowning off the internet.

                            The lad didn't have chance. That isn't what I'm saying at all.

                            I was rescured..... But it wasn't a person who rescued me.

                            Back to the question - if a miracle happened to you... wouldn't you think it was impossible without God working that wonder?

                            Sometimes there's no way for the miracle to happen, sad to say..

                            Of course miracles don't just happen all the time. That has been a question that on the back of my mind for years.

                            In the last few minutes I had left, I figure... I was rescued. By no human being.

                            It was a miracle I'm here. Would you realize that miracles just don't happen ?

                            There was nothing supernatural about what happened. You were screaming and your cow or donkey heard you and pulled you out. Wouldn't be the first case where an animal helped out a human in distress.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @vaportrail said:

                            There was nothing supernatural about what happened. You were screaming and your cow or donkey heard you and pulled you out. Wouldn't be the first case where an animal helped out a human in distress.

                            That would actually be more awesome than divine intervention

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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              Hey, Cal, if you were really pulled from a spring by a supernatural force, you should alert the Vatican. They're looking for a second "miracle" for Pope John Paul. But no one would believe your story the way you tell it, and they shouldn't believe it.

                              Now, when are you going to answer Woody's question?

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                                That I believe in creationism? I answered that a lot of times. Why do we have to go over and over stuff

                                for nitwits who think they've heard it all on the board when they are just new here?

                                Yes. I look at the universe, our solar system... I imagine the vastness of never ending space.

                                You think that happened by accident? Ya gotta be kidding.

                                And how old the earth is? does carbon dating mean God doesn't exist? Of course not.

                                And how in nature did animals come to exist to respond to human beings like some do?

                                You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                inhabited by aliens?

                                Although.... if you said that was correct, I wouldn't be surprised, except that you progs/lefts never believe in.... anything, most of the time.

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                                  You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                  inhabited by aliens?

                                  Just as likely as your beliefs being true. For me, what cements it is the fact that we don't necessarily understand the nature of time itself. For example, most people say there was nothing before the Big Bang. Well, nothing doesn't mean only space, it also includes time. Time came into existence when the big bang happened, and how it has worked between then and now is something we still don't even have close to a complete understanding of.

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                                    That I believe in creationism? I answered that a lot of times. Why do we have to go over and over stuff

                                    for nitwits who think they've heard it all on the board when they are just new here?

                                    Yes. I look at the universe, our solar system... I imagine the vastness of never ending space.

                                    You think that happened by accident? Ya gotta be kidding.

                                    And how old the earth is? does carbon dating mean God doesn't exist? Of course not.

                                    And how in nature did animals come to exist to respond to human beings like some do?

                                    You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                    inhabited by aliens?

                                    Although.... if you said that was correct, I wouldn't be surprised, except that you progs/lefts never believe in.... anything, most of the time.

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                                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    That I believe in creationism? I answered that a lot of times. Why do we have to go over and over stuff

                                    for nitwits who think they've heard it all on the board when they are just new here?

                                    Yes. I look at the universe, our solar system... I imagine the vastness of never ending space.

                                    You think that happened by accident? Ya gotta be kidding.

                                    And how old the earth is? does carbon dating mean God doesn't exist? Of course not.

                                    And how in nature did animals come to exist to respond to human beings like some do?

                                    You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                    inhabited by aliens?

                                    Although.... if you said that was correct, I wouldn't be surprised, except that you progs/lefts never believe in.... anything, most of the time.

                                    So just because you don't understand something, it must be God.

                                    -- How does the Sun come up? God

                                    -- How does the tide go in and out? God

                                    -- How did everything get here? God

                                    .... nope

                                    Why do animals respond to us like some do? Evolution...

                                    You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                    inhabited by aliens?

                                    No. I think everything on this Earth came to be over billions of years through natural selection.

                                    You believe a myth. I believe a scientific theory. One with decades of work behind it.

                                    Honestly the proof behind the ancient aliens theory is more compelling than the history laid out form the Bible.

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                                      You really think all of nature's miracles are just some labortory accident in some prehistoric cave

                                      inhabited by aliens?

                                      Just as likely as your beliefs being true. For me, what cements it is the fact that we don't necessarily understand the nature of time itself. For example, most people say there was nothing before the Big Bang. Well, nothing doesn't mean only space, it also includes time. Time came into existence when the big bang happened, and how it has worked between then and now is something we still don't even have close to a complete understanding of.

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                                      @vaportrail said:

                                      Just as likely as your beliefs being true. For me, what cements it is the fact that we don't necessarily understand the nature of time itself. For example, most people say there was nothing before the Big Bang. Well, nothing doesn't mean only space, it also includes time. Time came into existence when the big bang happened, and how it has worked between then and now is something we still don't even have close to a complete understanding of.

                                      We sure dont.

                                      Which is why I believe in the big bang theory about as much as any creationist story any theologian could throw out there.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        At least the big bang theory has some math and science behind it. It definitely isn't certain, but for now it is winning in my mind.

                                        Who's to say that their isn't a God and it set everything in motion with the Big Bang?

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                                          At least the big bang theory has some math and science behind it. It definitely isn't certain, but for now it is winning in my mind.

                                          Who's to say that their isn't a God and it set everything in motion with the Big Bang?

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                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          At least the big bang theory has some math and science behind it. It definitely isn't certain, but for now it is winning in my mind.

                                          Who's to say that their isn't a God and it set everything in motion with the Big Bang?

                                          As I've said before, believe whatever you want.

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