Colt Mcfrye
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tony pike is a free agent. love the kid when he played at cincinatti.
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Zombo said:
Oh, OK. Those are the three teams He has to beat on a consistant basis for us to contend?
Consistant indeed.
Zombo
hahahaha so RG3 would've done better.
our offense cant hold a candle to the defenses of those teams. cause our offense blew chunks.
and you say "he" has to beat those teams, like Colt was the only one to lose those games.
cmon guys. I'm told that I'm a 12 year old by saying that NOT ONE qb could've excelled with our offense last year. And that having the 30th ranked offense in the league is NOT all Colt's fault.
Zombo, its not just a QB that scores points in games. you think because Colt's QB rating is the ONLY reason we lost to those teams, yeah right.
i feel like im a broken record that just keeps spinning the simple facts that our offense sucked so much last year that judging Colt's cieling is f#%&*#g impossible
I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND people, just there are some arguments that I get heated over a little.
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Zombo said:
Oh, OK. Those are the three teams He has to beat on a consistant basis for us to contend?
Consistant indeed.
Zombo
hahahaha so RG3 would've done better.
our offense cant hold a candle to the defenses of those teams. cause our offense blew chunks.
and you say "he" has to beat those teams, like Colt was the only one to lose those games.
cmon guys. I'm told that I'm a 12 year old by saying that NOT ONE qb could've excelled with our offense last year. And that having the 30th ranked offense in the league is NOT all Colt's fault.
Zombo, its not just a QB that scores points in games. you think because Colt's QB rating is the ONLY reason we lost to those teams, yeah right.
i feel like im a broken record that just keeps spinning the simple facts that our offense sucked so much last year that judging Colt's cieling is f#%&*#g impossible
I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND people, just there are some arguments that I get heated over a little.
hahahaha so RG3 would've done better.
our offense cant hold a candle to the defenses of those teams. cause our offense blew chunks.
and you say "he" has to beat those teams, like Colt was the only one to lose those games.
cmon guys. I'm told that I'm a 12 year old by saying that NOT ONE qb could've excelled with our offense last year. And that having the 30th ranked offense in the league is NOT all Colt's fault.
Zombo, its not just a QB that scores points in games. you think because Colt's QB rating is the ONLY reason we lost to those teams, yeah right.
i feel like im a broken record that just keeps spinning the simple facts that our offense sucked so much last year that judging Colt's cieling is f#%&*#g impossible
I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND people, just there are some arguments that I get heated over a little.
I would be willing to bet that a good QB would have made plays last year for our team. Many of the best QBs in the league are playing with late round picks at WR. The Giants had a worse running game than we did, yet they had no problem scoring. A QB touches the ball every play and is in charge of getting the offense going. Why do you think coaches pull the quarterback when the offense is struggling instead of the WR?
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On a side note, Nickers I'm flattered that you would use my stuff in your sig but I'd appreciate some quotations.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Zombo said:
I'd like to see an upgrade as opposed to the "add weapons and hope" plan.
Would you be ok, If the Browns do not sell the farm for RG3, but draft a new QB with their draft picks #22 and below and use the other picks to solidify their roster?
RG3 is touted as a better prospect than Joe Flacco, Andy Dalton and Ben Rothlesberger. These 3 QB's led their teams to the playoffs and one of them is a multiple SuperBowl champion. Plus, they also had a good roster to help them.
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I read today that Griffin is actually a more attractive option than Flynn because he will cost less. We should hope that the Redskins overpay for Peyton and that the Dolphins get Flynn which would eliminate two of the competition for RGIII.
Zombo said:
I don't like any of the QBs after the top 2 this year. I think there is a big gap. In that scenario you give Colt another year to produce and go after a QB next year if he doesn't turn the corner, or you can go the Matt Flynn route.
I think the reason I am all in on Grif is that I am more dissatisfied with Colt than most, less impressed with Tannehill, et al than most, and not really taken with Flynn either.
If it wasn't for those meddling Redskins I think things would work out nicely for us as far as RG3 goes ... now it comes down to "how much do you give up for him?" ... three future prospective starters? That's a lot.
Zombo
IMHO- most Cleveland fans need to be a little more objective about Colt- and think for a second why in the hell would every pundit, commentator or so called "expert" that doesn't live in Cleveland think the Browns have a gaping hole at the qb position? Like none of them have ever broken down tape on McCoy and see that he does indeed have limitations to his game?
Yeah- ouch, looks like two firsts and a second for RGIII.
I read today that Griffin is actually a more attractive option than Flynn because he will cost less. We should hope that the Redskins overpay for Peyton and that the Dolphins get Flynn which would eliminate two of the competition for RGIII.
That my man is the best possible scenario, and would put the Browns in the catbird seat to get Griffin- it effectively eliminates all of the competition. Any other team would have to give up virtually their entire draft (or a super stud player) plus multiple future picks including at least one first rounder to jump ahead of the Browns. For instance if Jerry Jones is tired of Romo, think a couple firsts, a second and Demarcus Ware.
I've been banging this drum for that past week- a lot is going to depend on how much value the Rams put on Blackmon or Kalil. If they trade down with the Redskins they won't get either. Oh well I suppose- if Snyder goes all crazy again, Blackmon isn't a bad consolation prize.
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On a side note, Nickers I'm flattered that you would use my stuff in your sig but I'd appreciate some quotations.
On a side note, Nickers I'm flattered that you would use my stuff in your sig but I'd appreciate some quotations.
that will cost you $500.00. I dont work for nothing
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hahahaha so RG3 would've done better.
our offense cant hold a candle to the defenses of those teams. cause our offense blew chunks.
and you say "he" has to beat those teams, like Colt was the only one to lose those games.
cmon guys. I'm told that I'm a 12 year old by saying that NOT ONE qb could've excelled with our offense last year. And that having the 30th ranked offense in the league is NOT all Colt's fault.
Zombo, its not just a QB that scores points in games. you think because Colt's QB rating is the ONLY reason we lost to those teams, yeah right.
i feel like im a broken record that just keeps spinning the simple facts that our offense sucked so much last year that judging Colt's cieling is f#%&*#g impossible
I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND people, just there are some arguments that I get heated over a little.
I would be willing to bet that a good QB would have made plays last year for our team. Many of the best QBs in the league are playing with late round picks at WR. The Giants had a worse running game than we did, yet they had no problem scoring. A QB touches the ball every play and is in charge of getting the offense going. Why do you think coaches pull the quarterback when the offense is struggling instead of the WR?
I would be willing to bet that a good QB would have made plays last year for our team. Many of the best QBs in the league are playing with late round picks at WR. The Giants had a worse running game than we did, yet they had no problem scoring. A QB touches the ball every play and is in charge of getting the offense going. Why do you think coaches pull the quarterback when the offense is struggling instead of the WR?
well what does that say about our receivers when we outright cut one of our starters but left the QB in?
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Here's my take on the situation. I like Colt McCoy and defended him all season long but it'd be foolish to pass on RGIII. The kid is going to really be something. Now with that said, it doesn't stop with him. The need for a home run hitter is still need. Rather it's in the backfield or at wide out is apples and oranges. This is a really good chance to bring in some true young talent. The defense is getting there, so it's time to focus on offense. I know some of you want to see a stud linebacker picked up. That's still possible as well but if not through the draft, free agency is still an option. We may not agree on a lot but one thing we can agree on is we're all tired of seeing our beloved Browns lose.
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