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  • Browns dont need to draft Tight End at all, i personally thought it was our deepest posisition last year. Pat Shurmur did not properly play Evan Moore last year, five to eight plays a game for the guy with the best hands on the team last year was a tradegy.

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  • K Kerrigan91

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Quoting Mike Mayock does not make you an NFL draft analyst.

    No need to quote Mayock. I have my eyes to trust.

    The guy is overweight, slow (even for this year's draft class) and can't get open to save his life. He'll be lucky to see the field next year.

    @kerrigan91 said:

    No need to quote Mayock. I have my eyes to trust.

    The guy is overweight, slow (even for this year's draft class) and can't get open to save his life. He'll be lucky to see the field next year.

    He's overweight, yet he weighed in at 216 lbs, four pounds less than Michael Floyd and nine pounds heavier than Blackmon, who's a full 2 inches shorter than Alshon.

    He's slow, yet he averages his 40 time a 4.56, two hundredth's of a second slower than Floyd's and Blackmon's 4.54 average. Furthermore, Jeffery's 4.56 is faster than Randle's average of 4.57, and Mayock has Randle as a first round talent.

    And you've yet to refute my claim that he can, in fact, get separation with any fact or stats. I even provided a video showcasing him both break away from corners as well as fail to break away in order to present both sides of the argument.

    And I've yet to even bring up the fact that straight inline speed will be completely undervalued in the WCO system that we're currently running as most of our routes will be quick slants/hitches/outs/ins off a three step drop. So a more apt judge of speed would be in three corner and shuffle drills.

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  • hoortaH hoorta

    @harry-buffalo said:

    If Jeffery want's to make it in the NFL he better put on 20-30 more pounds and learn how to block, cause his only chance is switching to TE.

    Correct- he ran a turtle time at the combine.

    @hoorta said:

    Correct- he ran a turtle time at the combine.

    Jeffery didn't even run at the combine.

  • chocoC choco

    You call colt a qb? What was the rest of that post again?

    @choco said:

    You call colt a qb? What was the rest of that post again?

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html

    he's the starting QB of the cleveland browns, starting in front of seneca wallace. here's a copy of the roster. and here's a copy of the rest of the post you didn't care to read. guess truth hurts.

    no receivers no running game, no right side of the OL, one cornerback, 2 decent LBs, one DE and one safety

    so that means we need: (in no order of draft)

    2 WRs

    RB

    OL

    2 LBs

    1 DE

    1 CB

    1 S

    out of 8 picks? no but let's trade up, giving away 4 picks. leaving us to choose from the bottom of the barrel. great strategy.

    chocoC 1 Reply

  • If the Browns were akin to Jeffrey as of right now it's almost a lock he's available in the second round. Of course all this changes vastly with pro days and what not, but whether you all think it or not scouts are low on him for reasons people noted above. We'll see how that changes though.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @choco said:

    You call colt a qb? What was the rest of that post again?

    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/roster.html

    he's the starting QB of the cleveland browns, starting in front of seneca wallace. here's a copy of the roster. and here's a copy of the rest of the post you didn't care to read. guess truth hurts.

    no receivers no running game, no right side of the OL, one cornerback, 2 decent LBs, one DE and one safety

    so that means we need: (in no order of draft)

    2 WRs

    RB

    OL

    2 LBs

    1 DE

    1 CB

    1 S

    out of 8 picks? no but let's trade up, giving away 4 picks. leaving us to choose from the bottom of the barrel. great strategy.

    @miktoxic said:

    he's the starting QB of the cleveland browns

    still not seeing one.

    colts not a QB, he's a placeholder. i see you still think that everything else is wrong but colt. the one common element to all those receivers and running backs you think suck...is...the QB.

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • Does every fucking thread have to turn into a QB debate?

    On topic I think Blackmon lacks the speed we need. Floyd would be the better fit for us. He not only ran a faster 40 than expected but a noticably quicker gauntlet.

    Jeffries is not even on my board...

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  • chocoC choco

    @miktoxic said:

    he's the starting QB of the cleveland browns

    still not seeing one.

    colts not a QB, he's a placeholder. i see you still think that everything else is wrong but colt. the one common element to all those receivers and running backs you think suck...is...the QB.

    @choco said:

    still not seeing one.

    colts not a QB, he's a placeholder. i see you still think that everything else is wrong but colt. the one common element to all those receivers and running backs you think suck...is...the QB.

    I think the Browns deficiencies at all those other positons are as pronounced if not more so than at QB.

    The Brown DO need another CB, anothe Safety, another couple of LBs, another, a RT, a RG, at least another WR, another RB...especially if they don't keep Hillis.

    So, sure, upgrade the QB if the player is there and the price is right....but, as Qui Gon Gin said, be mindful young padawan of our other current needs.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Does every fucking thread have to turn into a QB debate?

    On topic I think Blackmon lacks the speed we need. Floyd would be the better fit for us. He not only ran a faster 40 than expected but a noticably quicker gauntlet.

    Jeffries is not even on my board...

    @tour2ma said:

    Does every fucking thread have to turn into a QB debate?

    On topic I think Blackmon lacks the speed we need. Floyd would be the better fit for us. He not only ran a faster 40 than expected but a noticably quicker gauntlet.

    Jeffries is not even on my board...

    Amen on the QB thing, McCoy is going to be our QB for 2012 like it or not.

    Yea the more I look at the video Floyd is the better pick. Can you imagine if we get 2 stud WR's. It's a whole different team. Sure up the right side of the line and give McCoy some time to throw.

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  • i wasn't aware that replacing colt would require us to give away our entire draft and stay out of FA.

  • If we don't get RG3 take Blackmon with the 4 and take Hill later in the draft. Blackmon is a sure-handed playmaker and Hill provides our speed/deep threat. Blackmon and Little on the outside and Hill in the slot would be a nice WR core if you ask me. If we do take RG3 I'd still love to see us take Hill. I really like WRs from GT. Hill's height and speed certainly don't hurt either.

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