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  • M mcgi8nnis

    @earl34 said:

    Just because you call it a "fact" doesn't make it so. I don't understand why it's verboten for a coach to take a job in the division. If I'm 34 years old and someone offers me a HC job...I'm taking it. Belichick felt threatened. Actually, the Browns wanted Mangini then too. Weren't they denied permission back then by Belichick?

    thats right you have a choice, but if belichick and pioli tell you not to take a job and you take it (bosotn globe article) then you reap what you sow. He only got the jets job because of the pats success and then he shit the bed in ny

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    thats right you have a choice, but if belichick and pioli tell you not to take a job and you take it (bosotn globe article) then you reap what you sow. He only got the jets job because of the pats success and then he shit the bed in ny

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

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  • I like the idea of Mangini as the next browns coach. I think the jets didnt give him enough time there and favre screwed the jets with his usual gunslinger (INT's) style. The writing on the boards now...its leaking out to the press about favre and his relationship with his teamates. I like the idea actually of mangini spending a couple years with the jets, learning from it, and coming here better prepared for the job.

  • ? Guest

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    thats right you have a choice, but if belichick and pioli tell you not to take a job and you take it (bosotn globe article) then you reap what you sow. He only got the jets job because of the pats success and then he shit the bed in ny

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

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  • M mcgi8nnis

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    I knew Bill Belichick was bored at home...Bill get off the computer and call Tom Brady for a heart-to-heart.

  • M mcgi8nnis

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    What was this better job?

    What is really worse, a rat or a cheater?

    Oh, and the question still is, what would you do if you had the opportunity to take a better job and your bosses told you not to take it? You can even pretend they told you next year they'd get you that job at another company (but you also have to imagine they circumvent governing body rules for said industry, like violating NFL rules like BB was doing with his spy gate work).

  • I get the whole calling Mangini a rat accusation, but

    1. Wasn't Mangini at least correct?

    2. What would you do if you knew the team that keeps winning Super Bowl after Super Bowl is cheating? Add they're a divisional rival and if they keep beating you, you could lose your job. Especially since one of the reasons you were hired was to beat said team.

    3. If RAC knew the Steelers were cheating and didn't call them on it, I'd be a little ticked. Its one thing to complain about ticky-tac lip reading or sign stealing or something, but this turned out to be legit from what I've read.

    4. Like was said above, Mangini didn't grab the pitch fork anyway. He wasn't the ring leader in the whole thing.

    Not sure spygate changes my opinion of him, + or - .

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  • I don't think anybody here would sit at a poker table and play if you knew someone at the table was stacking the deck.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • M mcgi8nnis

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    That would be a plus for us real Browns fans........................

    You've convinced me that you don't know shit about football, sol et me say, Buffalo is looking for fans.

    Then you are a fan of the rat, great coaching job he did with the jets

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Then you are a fan of the rat, great coaching job he did with the jets

    i like the rat. And that's a cool nickname too. i hope it sticks.

  • R roach

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Then you are a fan of the rat, great coaching job he did with the jets

    i like the rat. And that's a cool nickname too. i hope it sticks.

    @roach said:

    i like the rat. And that's a cool nickname too. i hope it sticks.

    For whatever reason - and it might have been due to the prima donna Favre - the players stopped playing for Mangini.

    That is not a good thing.

    I always wondered why there was such a rift between Belichick and Mangini - taking the Jets job couldn't be the entire reason - so maybe it was so-called Spy-gate.

    It almost kills Belichick to touch, never mind, shake Mangini's hand.

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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  • I don't know....maybe someone here does....who brought Favre to NY??

    Was it something Mangini really wanted or was it something put in his lap??

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    I don't know....maybe someone here does....who brought Favre to NY??

    Was it something Mangini really wanted or was it something put in his lap??

    @ballpeen said:

    I don't know....maybe someone here does....who brought Favre to NY??

    Was it something Mangini really wanted or was it something put in his lap??

    No one knows for sure but I am of the opinion that it was a Tannenbaum/Woody thing. Mangini has always been an "everybody shows up from OTAs through the end" kinda guy. No way that he wants to bring a guy in at the last minute to lead the team. I think he learned to live with it but ultimately, there was no one who could bench the dude.

  • That is what I was thinking...it was a owner driven type move.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    That is what I was thinking...it was a owner driven type move.

    @ballpeen said:

    That is what I was thinking...it was a owner driven type move.

    He is really trying to sell his PSL's...that's for sure. He's pricing most fans out. My inlaws are giving up their tickets (I think).

  • ? Guest

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers isn't really bad coaching.

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers isn't really bad coaching.

    I don't want anything do to with a guy like Mangini.................A Rat is a Rat enough said

    1st year winning season playing a easy schedule...sound familiar in Cleveland

    2nd year with tough schedule terrible season.....sound familiar in Cleveland

    3rd year easier schedule and Brett Farve CHOKED down the stretch

    What did Farve have to do with the defense not playing well after the Titans victory?

    If the Browns select Mangini over Scott Pioli just shows Randy Lerner has not learned anything

    Remember Lerner selected Romeo Crennell because he was impressed with his SB rings and being with the Patriots

    Lerner needs to select a GM and then go sit down and let the GM select his coach

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  • If Mangini is a rat for alerting the NFL about the Pats then Belichick is a slithering snake for being a cheat.

  • Zombo said:

    I just think his coffee never tasted the same.

    I would hire Mangini just for the nicknames: Rat, Penguin, Mangenius, Mangina, Manjackass, Manjavafetcher...

    Zombo

    don't forget fredo corleone

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  • M mcgi8nnis

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers is hardly shitting the bed.

    So if you get offered a job with another company, that pays you more, and is a promotion, and your bosses tell you not to take it, are you not going to take it?

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Not if the team you are leaving is a top organization and your boss tells you he can get you a better job the next season with a team that is not a rival. it only took 3 years to show the rat was not ready for the show. If you as a brown fan would rather the rat then pioli then you are the losers the steeler fans call you. l

    Wait...didn't Belicheat move from the Jets to the Patriots? Ah..so it's OK if you are moving TO New England.

    Got it.

    GTFO.

    And yeah, I'd rather have the rat that proved he could be an effective head coach than Belichicks coffee-fetching bitch who is afraid to actually go out on his own.

  • M mcgi8nnis

    Does anyone expect pioli (patriot ) to want the rat Mangini who has proven to be a terrible coach

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    Does anyone expect pioli (patriot ) to want the rat Mangini who has proven to be a terrible coach

    Didn't the guy before Mangini get fired because the Jets sucked? Just a yes or no.

    So what made it such a terrible coaching job making the playoffs as a rookie Head Coach there in 2006? In 2007, they didn't have a healthy arm and the alternative was inexperience from a 2nd string caliber QB. How often does that translate into making the playoffs again? NY was 8-3 when Favre had a healthy gun and it sounded to me like the players AND the media were pissed the NY front office scapegoated the blame to Manigini. I'm not reading anywhere that the players thought Manigini was the problem.

    Did anyone see that interview where Tannenbaum looked like a complete idiot? I prolly need to specify which one because I'm guessing there's tons. The interview where the guy asking the questions was pissed about the scapegoat invented and wasn't the firing of Mangini more about Tannenbaum saving his own fanny?

    If Mangini has 2 of his 3 seasons of 9 or more wins on a franchise that fired their LAST Head Coach - what specifically about that says BAD Head Coach? You're gonna need the imagination and writing ability of Stephen King to sell me on this one.

    - Tom F. (Looks to me like the Jets fired the WRONG guy)

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • M mcgi8nnis

    Zombo said:

    I just think his coffee never tasted the same.

    I would hire Mangini just for the nicknames: Rat, Penguin, Mangenius, Mangina, Manjackass, Manjavafetcher...

    Zombo

    don't forget fredo corleone

    @mcgi8nnis said:

    don't forget fredo corleone

    LOL!

  • S Sony Reed

    Masters said:

    23-25, 1 playoff birth, and a season that tanked on Brett's turnovers isn't really bad coaching.

    I don't want anything do to with a guy like Mangini.................A Rat is a Rat enough said

    1st year winning season playing a easy schedule...sound familiar in Cleveland

    2nd year with tough schedule terrible season.....sound familiar in Cleveland

    3rd year easier schedule and Brett Farve CHOKED down the stretch

    What did Farve have to do with the defense not playing well after the Titans victory?

    If the Browns select Mangini over Scott Pioli just shows Randy Lerner has not learned anything

    Remember Lerner selected Romeo Crennell because he was impressed with his SB rings and being with the Patriots

    Lerner needs to select a GM and then go sit down and let the GM select his coach

    @sony-reed said:

    I don't want anything do to with a guy like Mangini.................A Rat is a Rat enough said

    1st year winning season playing a easy schedule...sound familiar in Cleveland

    2nd year with tough schedule terrible season.....sound familiar in Cleveland

    3rd year easier schedule and Brett Farve CHOKED down the stretch

    What did Farve have to do with the defense not playing well after the Titans victory?

    If the Browns select Mangini over Scott Pioli just shows Randy Lerner has not learned anything

    Remember Lerner selected Romeo Crennell because he was impressed with his SB rings and being with the Patriots

    Lerner needs to select a GM and then go sit down and let the GM select his coach

    Well that D still gave up 300 yards or less in 3 of those final 4 losses, while Favre couldn't find a receiver or the endzone (sure could turn them over).

    I am not saying Mangini is the right pick. But I don't think he was an aweful coach, and the knocks these guys are putting on him are pretty unfair and irrational.

    I totally agree CLE should hire the GM first, and let him pick the coach.

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