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  • cambridgeho cambridgehoC Very Popular Reacting Well Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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    Dust has kinda settled, after the shananagans last night. Last year we lost 6 games by 7 or less points, 3 of those were by our division. Our coach made some really shitty calls, that pretty much screwed us. Our team is not as far gone as most think. Things that most of our young guys messed up with last year will have had a whole offseason with coaches to fix them. Give Colt another year with the same playbook. Also Greg little will dominate if paired with Blackmon at #4. Hillis paired with Miller from miami would be something sweet to watch. Our front office has done a pretty decent job on drafting the last few years and it will continue to get better for us. In all reailty we all new last year was gonna suck with the lack of an offseaon and another new coach. This year we have alittle more experience and i truley believe we can be a 10 win team. Sorry to ramble on but i am back from serving, and am getting depressed with all the negative shit going on in here. Talk to me people and let me know what on your mind draft wise now.

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      R Represent wrote on last edited by
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      The same mistakes Mangenius had Shurmur had last year, if you combine all the games that were lost by 7 or less in the last two seasons we wouldve had the best seasons since 99 but we didn't.

      Blackmon is our pick at 4 unless some team calls in the 20s thinking man the fucking brows will give us the 4 if we give them #26 this year and nexts years second!!! call them AND CALL THEM NOW! so we could possibly drop back in the draft AGAIN or grab our nutsacks and grab Blackmon and something else nice at 22.

      In Cleveland failure is an artform.
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        BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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        Welcome home. I don't have anything positive to say.

        "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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          The same mistakes Mangenius had Shurmur had last year, if you combine all the games that were lost by 7 or less in the last two seasons we wouldve had the best seasons since 99 but we didn't.

          Blackmon is our pick at 4 unless some team calls in the 20s thinking man the fucking brows will give us the 4 if we give them #26 this year and nexts years second!!! call them AND CALL THEM NOW! so we could possibly drop back in the draft AGAIN or grab our nutsacks and grab Blackmon and something else nice at 22.

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          slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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          @represent said:

          The same mistakes Mangenius had Shurmur had last year, if you combine all the games that were lost by 7 or less in the last two seasons we wouldve had the best seasons since 99 but we didn't.

          Blackmon is our pick at 4 unless some team calls in the 20s thinking man the fucking brows will give us the 4 if we give them #26 this year and nexts years second!!! call them AND CALL THEM NOW! so we could possibly drop back in the draft AGAIN or grab our nutsacks and grab Blackmon and something else nice at 22.

          No way we trade that far back for next years 2nd.....this years 2nd probably, and a 5-7 rd. pick also.

          !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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            @represent said:

            The same mistakes Mangenius had Shurmur had last year, if you combine all the games that were lost by 7 or less in the last two seasons we wouldve had the best seasons since 99 but we didn't.

            Blackmon is our pick at 4 unless some team calls in the 20s thinking man the fucking brows will give us the 4 if we give them #26 this year and nexts years second!!! call them AND CALL THEM NOW! so we could possibly drop back in the draft AGAIN or grab our nutsacks and grab Blackmon and something else nice at 22.

            No way we trade that far back for next years 2nd.....this years 2nd probably, and a 5-7 rd. pick also.

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            Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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            @slimdawg said:

            No way we trade that far back for next years 2nd.....this years 2nd probably, and a 5-7 rd. pick also.

            No way we trade that far back without a similar trade than we got last year. this year and next years 1st, this years 2nd, and this and next years 4th. Even then I think we should just take a player at 4 instead or only trade back 2-3 spots.

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              @slimdawg said:

              No way we trade that far back for next years 2nd.....this years 2nd probably, and a 5-7 rd. pick also.

              No way we trade that far back without a similar trade than we got last year. this year and next years 1st, this years 2nd, and this and next years 4th. Even then I think we should just take a player at 4 instead or only trade back 2-3 spots.

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              slimdawgS slimdawg wrote on last edited by
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              @harry-buffalo said:

              No way we trade that far back without a similar trade than we got last year. this year and next years 1st, this years 2nd, and this and next years 4th. Even then I think we should just take a player at 4 instead or only trade back 2-3 spots.

              Yea your right. I guess i was havin a brain fart lol

              !!!!hopefully i'll be alive when it happens!!!!
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                Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                I'm for trading #4 down no lower than mid 1st round IF we get at least a 2nd rounder THIS year in addition to the trading team's 1st this year.

                BTW, thanks for your service from this old Vietnam Vet....Funny how that experience sort of makes getting all bent out of shape over NFL draft picks sorta silly, hunh?

                Mike

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                • cambridgeho cambridgehoC Very Popular Reacting Well Dedicated Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                  cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                  I still think we take Blackmon, if we trade down then Trent " the guy who should have won the Hiesman" Richardson is who i hope we get, then wr Floyd from ND.

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                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                    What you described is the difference between a losing franchise and a winning franchise. Good teams find a way to win those games and we always find a way to lose. Always. As much as it pains me to somewhat side with a certain poster on here, I am getting tired of not taking chances and playing it safe in the draft and FA. That's been the formulas for years and we've sucked for years. I'm just so tired of seeing these teams take chances on say Cam Newton or Carson Palmer and winning football games while we take DT and suck it up cause we never have a QB capable of running an elite offense. We're drafting good players and there are plenty of holes to fill, there's no doubt about that one. But the gaping, bottomless pit has always been the QB position. It's ridiculous how many "project" guys we bring in, suck it up and leave us with 4-6 win seasons. My only hope is that Holmgren has his eyes set on Flynn and is willing to offer him a decent contract. Sure he has question marks but it's all about taking a chance. But we won't of course, we'll trade down in the first, draft a CB and watch the offense score 12 points a game while we draft a 5th round project guy who ends up sucking.

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                      BrownIndianB BrownIndian wrote on last edited by
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                      A good draft will be a cure for all.

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                        VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                        I wouldn't be surprised to see us trade down to the Rams for the 6 and 33.

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                          W WJ Brownfan wrote on last edited by
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                          I think the Rams would give up the 2nd rndr they just received to move back up to 4 to get Blackmon.

                          I would take that in a second. Two 1sts and Two 2nds would rebuild the Browns very quickly.

                          I would still give Colt a year. Let's be fair to him, he had no time to grow and lesser talents have become very good qb's.

                          Take a QB next year in rnd one if necessary

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                            I think the Rams would give up the 2nd rndr they just received to move back up to 4 to get Blackmon.

                            I would take that in a second. Two 1sts and Two 2nds would rebuild the Browns very quickly.

                            I would still give Colt a year. Let's be fair to him, he had no time to grow and lesser talents have become very good qb's.

                            Take a QB next year in rnd one if necessary

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                            C CGI_Ram wrote on last edited by
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                            @wj-brownfan said:

                            I think the Rams would give up the 2nd rndr they just received to move back up to 4 to get Blackmon.

                            I would take that in a second. Two 1sts and Two 2nds would rebuild the Browns very quickly.

                            I would still give Colt a year. Let's be fair to him, he had no time to grow and lesser talents have become very good qb's.

                            Take a QB next year in rnd one if necessary

                            Giving a perspective (for what it's worth) following the Rams closely;

                            They won't trade up for Blackmon. I think they like him, but I think they'll gladly take Claiborne or Richardson... and adding to that... I think they really-really like Richardson which might be a surprise to some.

                            Not to mention, if someone comes calling for Richardson or Claiborne they may move down again.

                            My 2 cents.

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              Sorry to ramble on but i am back from serving,

                              Are you a waiter? 🥷

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                                What you described is the difference between a losing franchise and a winning franchise. Good teams find a way to win those games and we always find a way to lose. Always. As much as it pains me to somewhat side with a certain poster on here, I am getting tired of not taking chances and playing it safe in the draft and FA. That's been the formulas for years and we've sucked for years. I'm just so tired of seeing these teams take chances on say Cam Newton or Carson Palmer and winning football games while we take DT and suck it up cause we never have a QB capable of running an elite offense. We're drafting good players and there are plenty of holes to fill, there's no doubt about that one. But the gaping, bottomless pit has always been the QB position. It's ridiculous how many "project" guys we bring in, suck it up and leave us with 4-6 win seasons. My only hope is that Holmgren has his eyes set on Flynn and is willing to offer him a decent contract. Sure he has question marks but it's all about taking a chance. But we won't of course, we'll trade down in the first, draft a CB and watch the offense score 12 points a game while we draft a 5th round project guy who ends up sucking.

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                                The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                @jrb12711 said:

                                What you described is the difference between a losing franchise and a winning franchise. Good teams find a way to win those games and we always find a way to lose. Always. As much as it pains me to somewhat side with a certain poster on here, I am getting tired of not taking chances and playing it safe in the draft and FA. That's been the formulas for years and we've sucked for years. I'm just so tired of seeing these teams take chances on say Cam Newton or Carson Palmer and winning football games while we take DT and suck it up cause we never have a QB capable of running an elite offense. We're drafting good players and there are plenty of holes to fill, there's no doubt about that one. But the gaping, bottomless pit has always been the QB position. It's ridiculous how many "project" guys we bring in, suck it up and leave us with 4-6 win seasons. My only hope is that Holmgren has his eyes set on Flynn and is willing to offer him a decent contract. Sure he has question marks but it's all about taking a chance. But we won't of course, we'll trade down in the first, draft a CB and watch the offense score 12 points a game while we draft a 5th round project guy who ends up sucking.

                                I don't think a team is "playing it safe" by drafting good, solid players on the offensive and defensive lines or at defensive back.

                                And you want to bring in Flynn? This guy is a 7th round project if I recall who has started all of 2 games in his NFL career. HE is a guy who seems to me is ripe to go high on the suckage meter.

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                                  Sorry to ramble on but i am back from serving,

                                  Are you a waiter? 🥷

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                                  cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Sorry to ramble on but i am back from serving,

                                  Are you a waiter? 🥷

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                                  • The GipperT The Gipper

                                    @jrb12711 said:

                                    What you described is the difference between a losing franchise and a winning franchise. Good teams find a way to win those games and we always find a way to lose. Always. As much as it pains me to somewhat side with a certain poster on here, I am getting tired of not taking chances and playing it safe in the draft and FA. That's been the formulas for years and we've sucked for years. I'm just so tired of seeing these teams take chances on say Cam Newton or Carson Palmer and winning football games while we take DT and suck it up cause we never have a QB capable of running an elite offense. We're drafting good players and there are plenty of holes to fill, there's no doubt about that one. But the gaping, bottomless pit has always been the QB position. It's ridiculous how many "project" guys we bring in, suck it up and leave us with 4-6 win seasons. My only hope is that Holmgren has his eyes set on Flynn and is willing to offer him a decent contract. Sure he has question marks but it's all about taking a chance. But we won't of course, we'll trade down in the first, draft a CB and watch the offense score 12 points a game while we draft a 5th round project guy who ends up sucking.

                                    I don't think a team is "playing it safe" by drafting good, solid players on the offensive and defensive lines or at defensive back.

                                    And you want to bring in Flynn? This guy is a 7th round project if I recall who has started all of 2 games in his NFL career. HE is a guy who seems to me is ripe to go high on the suckage meter.

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                                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    I don't think a team is "playing it safe" by drafting good, solid players on the offensive and defensive lines or at defensive back.

                                    And you want to bring in Flynn? This guy is a 7th round project if I recall who has started all of 2 games in his NFL career. HE is a guy who seems to me is ripe to go high on the suckage meter.

                                    Listening to Adam Schefter this morning, he made the statement that couldn't be truer. He said "this is a quarterback driven league. If you don't have a franchise QB, you've got nothing." Colt is not and never will be a franchise QB, plain and simple. Flynn is a huge gamble but many knowledgeable people think he's franchise QB material. He comes from an elite passing WCO and has been able to learn under the best QB right now in the game. Sure it's a risk, but that sounds a hell of a lot better to me than what we've got now. Stick with Colt and we're drafting top 10 again.

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