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Peyton Confirmed To Be Released

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  • @browns2012 said:

    As much as I don't want to admit it, I think it's true. Manning was with the Colts for about 14-15 years. Since he's been with the team for that long and the age he is now, it's going to be hard for him to find another team. If he eventually does find another team, how long will he last with that team before he realizes that he wants to retire. I think it's best that he retires because he's a bit old. He's 35. So in about what 3-4 years his body is going to turn against him and he won't be able to perform to the best of his ability like someone younger than him. Maybe his time is up. Sorry Manning but maybe you need to retire.

    No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.

    John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.

    Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.

    Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.

    Charlie Batch is 37

    Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.

    Matt Hasselbeck is 36.

    Jon Kitna is 39.

    Delhomme was 36 last year.

    Donovan McNabb is 35.

    John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970

    Testaverde played til he was 41

    Warren Moon played til he was 44

    Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.

    No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.

    (Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)

    @the-gipper said:

    No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.

    John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.

    Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.

    Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.

    Charlie Batch is 37

    Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.

    Matt Hasselbeck is 36.

    Jon Kitna is 39.

    Delhomme was 36 last year.

    Donovan McNabb is 35.

    John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970

    Testaverde played til he was 41

    Warren Moon played til he was 44

    Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.

    No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.

    (Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)

    Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.

    Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90. 🙂

  • To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.

    http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk

  • @the-gipper said:

    No, by all indications as long as his nerve has regenerated he can be as good as ever. And it is not like other QBs haven't be productive who were as old or older as he is.

    John Elway won 2 SBs at the age of 37 and 38.

    Mark Brunell and Jeff Garcia were around to age 41.

    Favre was in an NFC title game at age 40.

    Charlie Batch is 37

    Kerry Collins was active last year at age 39.

    Matt Hasselbeck is 36.

    Jon Kitna is 39.

    Delhomme was 36 last year.

    Donovan McNabb is 35.

    John Unitas was 37 when he QBd the Colts to a SB win in 1970

    Testaverde played til he was 41

    Warren Moon played til he was 44

    Marino and Montana played til 38....and they took teams to the playoffs in their last year or two.

    No, a 35 year old Peyton Manning....as long as his nerves have healed can play several more good years.

    (Note: the reports are that he is in no worse danger of serious injury than any other QB is even with his fused disks. Again, the only thing that could be problematical is the regerneration of the nerve, and all indications are that that process is either complete or nearly complete)

    Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.

    Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90. 🙂

    @hoorta said:

    Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.

    Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90. 🙂

    OK, but: Elway: 2 Super Bowl wins

    Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win

    Montana: took team to AFC title game

    Favre: took team to NFC title game

    For someone as supremely talented as Manning, I see him having 3 more years of playoff caliber play....assuming his nerve has regenerated. Sure, it won't be with the Browns....and unless it was with the Browns who would care if he flopped around like fish because he was too old and hurt? I just don't think he is too old or too hurt.

  • To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.

    http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk

    @brownrebel said:

    To those that said I was wrong about point #4 being incorrect on the title post, here is an ap link. The issue is nerve regeneration in his muscles/arm (ie strength). He has no more inherent risk coming back than anyone else.

    http://m.apnews.mobi/ap/db_6719/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=pi2NzYIk

    Check

  • If you were Jim Irsay, would you do what he did to Peyton Manning?

  • I can't help but wonder if the Colts, now knowing what the #2 pick has brought in trade, aren't wishing they'd resigned Peyton and dealt the #1...

    As for where Peyton lands... still believe that SF has to be in the mix.

  • @hoorta said:

    Gip, there's a difference between "playing" and "playing at the highest level". Manning is going to expect to get paid at the highest level. I won't bother to look it up on Pro football reference, but I'm betting at least 1\2 the guys you put on your list were totally washed up the last couple of years of their careers.

    Batch- bench warmer. McNabb dumped by Eagles and Vikings. Collins active @ 39- I think there's some folks in nursing homes that are still "active" @ 90. 🙂

    OK, but: Elway: 2 Super Bowl wins

    Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win

    Montana: took team to AFC title game

    Favre: took team to NFC title game

    For someone as supremely talented as Manning, I see him having 3 more years of playoff caliber play....assuming his nerve has regenerated. Sure, it won't be with the Browns....and unless it was with the Browns who would care if he flopped around like fish because he was too old and hurt? I just don't think he is too old or too hurt.

    @the-gipper said:

    OK, but: Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win.

    FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.

  • @the-gipper said:

    OK, but: Unitas: 1 Super Bowl win.

    FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.

    @tour2ma said:

    FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.

    Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.

    How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?

    Great defense and running.

    So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of QBs were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.

    The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.

  • The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year

    Sign Manning

    Sign Wayne and Moss

    Draft whoever

    QB: Manning

    WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree

    TE: Davis

    HB: Gore

    plus they already have a great D

  • The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year

    Sign Manning

    Sign Wayne and Moss

    Draft whoever

    QB: Manning

    WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree

    TE: Davis

    HB: Gore

    plus they already have a great D

    @mld-woody said:

    The 49ers could potentially be beastly next year

    Sign Manning

    Sign Wayne and Moss

    Draft whoever

    QB: Manning

    WR: Wayne, Moss, Crabtree

    TE: Davis

    HB: Gore

    plus they already have a great D

    What the hell, maybe the Browns should go after Randy Moss. Why not? Get him for nothing. Give him an incentive laden contract. If he blows up, nothing is lost but a little money.

    I mean, what "lockerroom chemistry" is there with the Browns that he can destroy? Their winning attitude?

  • @tour2ma said:

    FYI... Johnnie U was knocked out of SB V in its 2nd Qtr. His stats were 3/9 for 88 yds w/ 1 TD and 2 INT. And 75 of his 88 yds were on one play, a TD pass to Mackey. So he hardly won the game for the Colts.

    Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.

    How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?

    Great defense and running.

    So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of QBs were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.

    The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.

    @the-gipper said:

    Well, he was the starter and helped score the only TD in the game which was only a 16-13 game.

    How did the Colts win that game...and win that season, with an aged Unitas?

    Great defense and running.

    So, its a lesson to be learned. Any number of SBs EDIT were won by teams who had less than a stellar performer at QB.

    The Browns need to build their defense and offensive line. Then fill in with the QB they need. And honestly, that may not happen for a couple of years.

    Well, since we missed out on RGIII, may as well go the Steeler's route and wait until another Rothlisberger drops into our lap. I just hope it's this year or next- I'm not getting any younger. 🙂