Planned Parenthood
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I can understand the opposition to tax dollars going to pay for PP since it does perform a lot of abortions, even if the abortion arm isn't technically funded by public money. Regardless, it's a great organization, doing a lot of work for a very underserved population.
But it's funny because funding for Planned Parenthood wasn't an issue with Reagan or Bush Sr., or part of the Dole platform, or even Bush Jr. And now it is.
And this is why we have elections.
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A recent Brookings Institute study:
"Unintended pregnancy is a widespread problem with far-reaching implications: almost half of all pregnancies in the United States are unintended, and the women and children involved in these pregnancies are disproportionately likely to experience a range of negative outcomes. I review research on the causes of unintended pregnancy and the impacts of various evidence-based pregnancy prevention policies. I discuss the estimated effects of mass media campaigns discouraging unprotected sex, teen pregnancy prevention programs, and expansions in publicly funded family planning services, and then present new research showing that expansions in these policies would likely lead to reductions in teen and unintended pregnancy, out-of-wedlock childbearing, and child poverty. The research also shows that each dollar spent on these policies would produce taxpayer savings of between two and six dollars. Over the last few years, prudent investments have been made in several proven pregnancy prevention policies. Some of these investments, however, have recently come under attack at the state and federal levels. The findings presented in this brief suggest that policymakers would be wise to expand these programs rather than pare them back."
And an article on this here called The Fiscal Conservative's Case for Spending More Money on Birth Control.
"If you happen to dislike the idea of your money going to help poor, unmarried, or teenage women, consider the fact that you will not just get your money back, you'll at least double it and at most quintuple. You'll enjoy this profit in the form of lower health care costs and lower taxes.
...When Texas cut $73 million from state family planning services, the increase in unplanned pregnancies ended up costing $230 million in additional Medicaid burdens, according to the nonpartisan state Legislative Budget Board. The other result was more unintended pregnancies and, presumably, more abortions."
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If you read the news you'd know that, yes, he said that. I'm not making this up.
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This is push back to Obamao's pushing us over the cliff in debt.
And, more and more, Planned Parenthood is an arm of the KGB Democratic Party.
I don't care how much money it saves, the murder of unborn children is now a battle
of humanity, and INhumanity.
Pro-abortions never want to talk about adoptions. Again, WHY ?
"Planned NO Parenthood" is more like it. with the push to the left by this Obamao
fascist regime, the American people do NOT want to fund the murder of unborn children,
now that Obamao and his ilk have made Planned Parenthood a political football.
It's all about trying to turn "women" against the Republicans for the next election.
It's about POWER, KEPT by the left. It's what the left always does. Try to change enough
of everything, so that they OWN the electoral process by any means necessary.
Like, Obamao's CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE. We are big, serious, Chavez-like trouble with
these dirtbag leftists in our WH, and slithering around Congress, and the media.
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Steve?
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This is push back to Obamao's pushing us over the cliff in debt.
And, more and more, Planned Parenthood is an arm of the KGB Democratic Party.
I don't care how much money it saves, the murder of unborn children is now a battle
of humanity, and INhumanity.
Pro-abortions never want to talk about adoptions. Again, WHY ?
"Planned NO Parenthood" is more like it. with the push to the left by this Obamao
fascist regime, the American people do NOT want to fund the murder of unborn children,
now that Obamao and his ilk have made Planned Parenthood a political football.
It's all about trying to turn "women" against the Republicans for the next election.
It's about POWER, KEPT by the left. It's what the left always does. Try to change enough
of everything, so that they OWN the electoral process by any means necessary.
Like, Obamao's CIVILIAN SECURITY FORCE. We are big, serious, Chavez-like trouble with
these dirtbag leftists in our WH, and slithering around Congress, and the media.
Pro-abortions never want to talk about adoptions. Again, WHY ?
There 1s probably about 100k+ kids waiting for adoption, who do you think pays for them to be in foster care waiting for adoption? Have you or do you intend to adopt? Or have you decided it would be ok for gay/lesbian couples to be able to adopt?
It's merely playing to the Republican base to trumpet up attacking things that are associated with abortion, but even if they do get elected I doubt they will make any cuts to it.
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Steve?
Steve?
Allow me to apologize in advance for repeating that I don't care.
No republican will get traction with an abortion on demand platform.
No democrat will win with a right to life position.
Let me give you this analogy.
if the state of ohio wanted to pay me a huge amount of money for a saint patrick's day show but thought some rebel songs might be offensive to some citizens and that those rebel songs were only 3 percent of my repetoire I think I could, in good conscience, eliminate them.
Problem solved.
Of course if I were so ideologically committed to rebel songs and refused to forego them then I would need to find a another source of funding.
WSS
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I'm pretty sure everyone's taxes goes to one thing or another they don't like....
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Steve?
Allow me to apologize in advance for repeating that I don't care.
No republican will get traction with an abortion on demand platform.
No democrat will win with a right to life position.
Let me give you this analogy.
if the state of ohio wanted to pay me a huge amount of money for a saint patrick's day show but thought some rebel songs might be offensive to some citizens and that those rebel songs were only 3 percent of my repetoire I think I could, in good conscience, eliminate them.
Problem solved.
Of course if I were so ideologically committed to rebel songs and refused to forego them then I would need to find a another source of funding.
WSS
Allow me to apologize in advance for repeating that I don't care.
No republican will get traction with an abortion on demand platform.
No democrat will win with a right to life position.
Let me give you this analogy.
if the state of ohio wanted to pay me a huge amount of money for a saint patrick's day show but thought some rebel songs might be offensive to some citizens and that those rebel songs were only 3 percent of my repetoire I think I could, in good conscience, eliminate them.
Problem solved.
Of course if I were so ideologically committed to rebel songs and refused to forego them then I would need to find a another source of funding.
WSS
So you'd like PP to perform all of those other functions, but not perform abortions?
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Allow me to apologize in advance for repeating that I don't care.
No republican will get traction with an abortion on demand platform.
No democrat will win with a right to life position.
Let me give you this analogy.
if the state of ohio wanted to pay me a huge amount of money for a saint patrick's day show but thought some rebel songs might be offensive to some citizens and that those rebel songs were only 3 percent of my repetoire I think I could, in good conscience, eliminate them.
Problem solved.
Of course if I were so ideologically committed to rebel songs and refused to forego them then I would need to find a another source of funding.
WSS
So you'd like PP to perform all of those other functions, but not perform abortions?
So you'd like PP to perform all of those other functions, but not perform abortions?
I don't care but that seems like a logical compromise.
Except this isn't a real issue.
Its political bullshit.
Hell I'd like to have free heart diabetes and prostate treatment.
WSS
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So you'd like PP to perform all of those other functions, but not perform abortions?
I don't care but that seems like a logical compromise.
Except this isn't a real issue.
Its political bullshit.
Hell I'd like to have free heart diabetes and prostate treatment.
WSS
I don't care but that seems like a logical compromise.
Except this isn't a real issue.
Its political bullshit.
Hell I'd like to have free heart diabetes and prostate treatment.
WSS
What does free care have to do with anything? I went this morning, my gfs insurance doesn't cover anything under 7k. She paid 50 for the appointment and the pills.
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Of course, it's not your concern, so it's a bullshit issue. It doesn't matter that it's a grave concern to millions of women who use PP to get reproductive health care every year. Now, the GOP candidates are all running on a platform to zero out their federal funding. You think that's a good compromise.
Of course, the compromise is already in place: no federal funding is used to provide abortion services. That's already law.
And hey, funny you mention prostate care, because colonoscopies are also a part of the same mandated coverage. So you will get them as part of your health package.
And for the 50th time, nothing is "free."
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I don't care but that seems like a logical compromise.
Except this isn't a real issue.
Its political bullshit.
Hell I'd like to have free heart diabetes and prostate treatment.
WSS
What does free care have to do with anything? I went this morning, my gfs insurance doesn't cover anything under 7k. She paid 50 for the appointment and the pills.
What does free care have to do with anything? I went this morning, my gfs insurance doesn't cover anything under 7k. She paid 50 for the appointment and the pills.
We're talking about federal tax dollars funding planned parenthood.
WSS
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No Heck, I don't care because I don't care. Fund it or not. I'm not the demographic either side is trying to pander too.
It's bullshit because both sides want to play hardball with the abortion question.
WSS
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And for the 51st time, it's free to me if somebody else is paying for it.
WSS
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You can think that all you like, but your premise is entirely flawed. Abortion is one of - if not the - most hotly debated social issues of our time, and issues of women's health care and contraception and unwanted pregnancy and access to abortion services affect millions of Americans every year, and in the deepest ways possible. You simply dismiss this. And because politics are involved? Isn't that what politics is for?
Side A thinks this should be the policy...
Side B thinks it shouldn't, and that this should be the policy...
Now vote for which one you prefer.
If you're admitting a personal flaw - that you don't give a shit about the biggest social issue of our time, one that affects millions of Americans every year, or that as long as an issue doesn't affect you personally it's not important - then I suppose I accept that you don't give a shit. But abortion, and access to abortion services, is hardly a bullshit issue, and it's odd to listen to someone pretend it is.
Next time NYC gets hit with a terrorist strike you can claim it's also bullshit and doesn't affect you because, hey, you live in Ohio. Not your problem, right? Terrorism is a bullshit issue.
Of course, you're even wrong on that front, since this does affect you through your tax dollars.
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No you're just wasting my time.
If it upsets you that much climb a clock tower with an ak 47.
Contraception is free or cheap and that's not going to change.
Abortion is perfectly legal probably up into the area that would upset you yourself.
I'm personally not basing my vote solely on the issue of abortion, you can if you so choose.
And since noone is ever ever ever going to it outlaw it I don't care.
And yes it is bullshit. Your guys just want to stick that paying for abortion gag up the ass of the small religious few.
Since I'm not really one of them who cares?
WSS
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Also, it seems to me that you guys thought terrorism was bullshit.
You know insulting anybody that used the term war on terror, or terrorist.
It was law enforcement responsibility as I recall.
WSS
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And what can you say to that other than, "Um ...okay."
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