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  • SDBrownsFan S
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    S SDBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.

    So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.

    It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.

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      I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.

      So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.

      It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.

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      R Represent wrote on last edited by
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      @sdbrownsfan said:

      I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.

      So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.

      It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.

      If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.

      In Cleveland failure is an artform.
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        @sdbrownsfan said:

        I was watching NFL Network yesterday and they talked about us taking Weeden at #22. Makes no sense to me- Everyone is hung up on his age- he would easily fall to #37.

        So I guess i don't get this regimes thinking- you want to trade back to get more picks or better value (trade back and take a guy like Richardson) yet you over value someone like Weeden. If he's taken at #22- I'm lost.

        It would be nice to put all the pieces in place get a RT and a couple playmakers- evaluate Colt over the season and decide at that point where you are at and where you need to be at the position.

        If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.

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        J jnuh wrote on last edited by
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        @represent said:

        If we take Weeden at all at 22 37 60 03923875 I'll write a very detailed letter to HnH Explaining why they can completely go fuck themselves.

        I actually think Weeden would be a great move later on in the draft. Rounds 1-3 should not be where we take him unless we pick up a shit ton of second round picks via trades and can AFFORD to take a flier on him.

        As far as the NFL network is concerned that is all speculation from "draft insiders" those guys get paid to speculate it is their job. I wouldn't put much stock in it. None of them saw us taking Taylor, Sheard, Ward ... and the list goes on.

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          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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          Wow, are some of us really considering "Weeden"... WEEDEN? 😆

          The dude is as old as Jake Delhomme! ...wow, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess... 😵

          Give Colt 3 or 4 more years and when he gets to be weeden's(snicker) age, he'll be a hell of a lot better than Weeden... Weeden will probably be retired by then anyway... C'mon people he'll be a 29 year old rookie?

          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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            Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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            Not comparing the two...but how old was Warren Moon when he was an NFL rookie? How about Doug Flutie or Kurt Warner?

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              PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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              I'm not saying that it is not possible but because a couple of guys worked out it's the rule and not the exception? Miracles CAN happen but realistically just because they have happened before doesn't mean it's for sure going to happen again. Kurt Warner was a fairy tale come true, grocery bager to superbowl champ... it's just not likely to happen again.

              I don't know, maybe I'm just a bitter 30 year old that wishes that it was me in his place... it's not a good reason to diss the guy, my bad. I wish him the best of luck and hope all his dreams come true. I just like Colt much, much more I guess. I'll tell you what though, I would be happy to have him take Seneca Wallace's place as a backup to Colt. I really don't like Seneca that much at all.

              The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                R Represent wrote on last edited by
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                My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                4. M.Claiborne

                22. M.Floyd

                37. L.James

                Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

                In Cleveland failure is an artform.
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                  My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                  4. M.Claiborne

                  22. M.Floyd

                  37. L.James

                  Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

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                  B BrownRebel wrote on last edited by
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                  @represent said:

                  My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                  4. M.Claiborne

                  22. M.Floyd

                  37. L.James

                  Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

                  If we pulled this off i'd be a happy man.

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                    My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                    4. M.Claiborne

                    22. M.Floyd

                    37. L.James

                    Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

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                    cribbs is the manC cribbs is the man wrote on last edited by
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                    @represent said:

                    My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                    4. M.Claiborne

                    22. M.Floyd

                    37. L.James

                    Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

                    Floyd will not be there at 22. Can almost guarantee that...

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                    • Mark OM Mark O

                      Not comparing the two...but how old was Warren Moon when he was an NFL rookie? How about Doug Flutie or Kurt Warner?

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                      ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                      @mark-o said:

                      Not comparing the two...but how old was Warren Moon when he was an NFL rookie? How about Doug Flutie or Kurt Warner?

                      Add Joe Theisman to that list.

                      I think we end up drafting Tannehill #1. It just may not be with the #4 pick...we might trade down a couple of slots.

                      If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                        My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                        4. M.Claiborne

                        22. M.Floyd

                        37. L.James

                        Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @represent said:

                        My Brother seems 100% Convinced

                        4. M.Claiborne

                        22. M.Floyd

                        37. L.James

                        Spent 20 minutes trying to convince me this is our draft was like i'll post it for you to see later if u called it cuz i wont remember lol

                        I would have no problem with that if it could happen.

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                          PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                          Personally my favorite mock is my own 😁

                          #04- Richardson

                          #22- Floyd/Wright/Hill

                          #37- Best available RT

                          3rd- Minnifield

                          4th- Burfict

                          4th- Osweiler

                          BPA on out...

                          This draft is the most complete that I've seen.

                          A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith

                          B)Addresses and upgrades the WR position opposite Greg Little

                          C)Shores up the OL and completes it, for now.

                          D)Gives us a good CB or FS with Cleveland ties and roots

                          E)Provides an animal a LB, one with question marks but DQ could have a good influence and mentor him

                          F)Brings in a young QB to compete against Colt, I think Brock has potential anyways.

                          G)Still leaves Heckert 7 picks to work his draft skill and knowledge with, I'm sure he can net some gems in there somewhere.

                          After the above draft our needs and weaknesses should be somewhat diminished right?

                          The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                            Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                            Said this morning that to the delight of some Richardson is being brought in for a visit, and to the dismay of others Weeden and Cousins are being brought in as well.

                            Ruining threads since 1897.
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                            • PoeticGP PoeticG

                              Personally my favorite mock is my own 😁

                              #04- Richardson

                              #22- Floyd/Wright/Hill

                              #37- Best available RT

                              3rd- Minnifield

                              4th- Burfict

                              4th- Osweiler

                              BPA on out...

                              This draft is the most complete that I've seen.

                              A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith

                              B)Addresses and upgrades the WR position opposite Greg Little

                              C)Shores up the OL and completes it, for now.

                              D)Gives us a good CB or FS with Cleveland ties and roots

                              E)Provides an animal a LB, one with question marks but DQ could have a good influence and mentor him

                              F)Brings in a young QB to compete against Colt, I think Brock has potential anyways.

                              G)Still leaves Heckert 7 picks to work his draft skill and knowledge with, I'm sure he can net some gems in there somewhere.

                              After the above draft our needs and weaknesses should be somewhat diminished right?

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                              Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                              @poeticg said:

                              Personally my favorite mock is my own 😁

                              This draft is the most complete that I've seen.

                              As is mine in my eyes... as is... as is... as is...

                              Try filling in those blanks. Who would likely be the BART at #36??? If there is no RT worth that pick, then what do you do?

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                                chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                                are you suggesting, PG, that the first 4 rounds are not BPA? kinda looks like it from here.

                                #22: a drunk with serious character issues, small guy with average speed and no strength, a guy from a run first offense thats a workout warrior.

                                #37: drafting for need hmmm?

                                3rd: drafting based on name?

                                4th: a thug that flunked not only the combine, but his pro day...

                                know what your mock draft looks like? a list of players you like for reasons other than football ability. so its not really a mock draft at all....just your list of personal favorites.

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                                  are you suggesting, PG, that the first 4 rounds are not BPA? kinda looks like it from here.

                                  #22: a drunk with serious character issues, small guy with average speed and no strength, a guy from a run first offense thats a workout warrior.

                                  #37: drafting for need hmmm?

                                  3rd: drafting based on name?

                                  4th: a thug that flunked not only the combine, but his pro day...

                                  know what your mock draft looks like? a list of players you like for reasons other than football ability. so its not really a mock draft at all....just your list of personal favorites.

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                                  PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                                  @choco said:

                                  are you suggesting, PG, that the first 4 rounds are not BPA? kinda looks like it from here.

                                  #22: a drunk with serious character issues, small guy with average speed and no strength, a guy from a run first offense thats a workout warrior.

                                  *how can you be a drunk at his age? Heckert said himself, case by case basis will be determined.

                                  *Welker is small and not the fastest... Wright made big plays and he made RG3

                                  *Hill has Elite speed and height, he made plays when given the chance...

                                  #37: drafting for need hmmm?

                                  Yes, we have a need for a RT, but as many have told me, "you don't take a RT in the first round". Early 2nd will produce a fine RT

                                  3rd: drafting based on name?

                                  Not based on name. The name is a plus, he's a solid corner in his own right, could play multiple positons. look up his scouting report.

                                  4th: a thug that flunked not only the combine, but his pro day...

                                  James Harrison is a so called thug. Burfict made HUGE plays at ASU. He was that teams Defense. Go watch actual gamefilm, he's everywhere.

                                  know what your mock draft looks like? Yes, a winner.

                                  The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                                    Personally my favorite mock is my own 😁

                                    #04- Richardson

                                    #22- Floyd/Wright/Hill

                                    #37- Best available RT

                                    3rd- Minnifield

                                    4th- Burfict

                                    4th- Osweiler

                                    BPA on out...

                                    This draft is the most complete that I've seen.

                                    A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith

                                    B)Addresses and upgrades the WR position opposite Greg Little

                                    C)Shores up the OL and completes it, for now.

                                    D)Gives us a good CB or FS with Cleveland ties and roots

                                    E)Provides an animal a LB, one with question marks but DQ could have a good influence and mentor him

                                    F)Brings in a young QB to compete against Colt, I think Brock has potential anyways.

                                    G)Still leaves Heckert 7 picks to work his draft skill and knowledge with, I'm sure he can net some gems in there somewhere.

                                    After the above draft our needs and weaknesses should be somewhat diminished right?

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                                    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                                    @poeticg said:

                                    #04- Richardson

                                    A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith

                                    is arian foster legit?

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                                      @poeticg said:

                                      #04- Richardson

                                      A)Gives us a legitimate RB threat, best since AP- Maybe Emmit Smith

                                      is arian foster legit?

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                                      Harry BuffaloH Harry Buffalo wrote on last edited by
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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      is arian foster legit?

                                      His hamstring isn't.

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                                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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                                        and richardson is 'guaranteed' not to get hurt somehow?

                                        you could be drafted at #4 or be unsigned and still pull a hammy. the unsigned was the leading rusher in the nfl in 2010 and his team just signed him to a 5 year deal. not bad for being unsigned.

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                                          Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                          #6 Blackmon, WR

                                          #22 Mike Adams, OT

                                          #37 David Wilson, RB

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