Cleveland Browns Gm Tom Heckert Guarantees Browns Won't Trade Up To No. 3, Will Consider Trading Down "a Few Spots''
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
Please, tell how this draft, where we don't go after top players and instead take lower picks and trad down is any different from the last 12 years of horseshit drafts?
That isn't the question that you asked. The Browns ARE building through the draft. Now, whether or not the 3 little piggies, Holmgren/Heckert/Shurmur are building a house made of straw, sticks, or bricks is another question altogether.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
Please, tell how this draft, where we don't go after top players and instead take lower picks and trad down is any different from the last 12 years of horseshit drafts?
That isn't the question that you asked. The Browns ARE building through the draft. Now, whether or not the 3 little piggies, Holmgren/Heckert/Shurmur are building a house made of straw, sticks, or bricks is another question altogether.
@king-ghoolie-lives said:
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
9-23 in those 2 years, maybe all 9 shouldnt be starting.
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Same fucking idiots every year thinking that draft picks should be pro bowlers right away or their busts.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
9-23 in those 2 years, maybe all 9 shouldnt be starting.
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
9-23 in those 2 years, maybe all 9 shouldnt be starting.
and those 9 replaced 9 others that helped us to a staggering 5-11....
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Do you mean or THEY'RE Busts? Or do you mean some people thnk that a player, if not a pro bowler right away, is their bosom, or titties? I dont have a bust, so I wouldn't even know how to consider another human being as "my bust".
Seriously, apologists like you are always the same. If someone like me critisizes a player, your response is always a full-out nuclear blast.
It's criticize not critisize.. just while we're on the topic of correct English..
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Do you mean or THEY'RE Busts? Or do you mean some people thnk that a player, if not a pro bowler right away, is their bosom, or titties? I dont have a bust, so I wouldn't even know how to consider another human being as "my bust".
Seriously, apologists like you are always the same. If someone like me critisizes a player, your response is always a full-out nuclear blast.
It's criticize not critisize.. just while we're on the topic of correct English..
It's criticize not critisize.. just while we're on the topic of correct English..
There are three dots in the ellipsis ...
Zombo
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Do you mean or THEY'RE Busts? Or do you mean some people thnk that a player, if not a pro bowler right away, is their bosom, or titties? I dont have a bust, so I wouldn't even know how to consider another human being as "my bust".
Seriously, apologists like you are always the same. If someone like me critisizes a player, your response is always a full-out nuclear blast.
Suggest a FA? You will come back and bitch that " HE ISN"T THE ANSWER... THIS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE US A SB team.
Look snapper head, I NEVER suggested that a new player must be an instant pro bowler. I don't even give a shit about the pro bowl, that entire institution is a popularity contest.
HOWEVER......you circle jerk "building-through-the-draft dickweeds think you won NO EXPLANATION, NO DEMONSTRABLE PROOF of your fellation of our IMPROVED TEAM.
Hey, where are the victories? Wins against divisional rivals? Playoff births? Hey, fuck all that, how about BUILDING not being = to 5 -11 followed by 4 - 12.
Dipshit, BUILDING MEANS......... each day things get bigger, better, closer to complete. That isn't happeneng here. The 2011 team sucked worse than the 2010 team. You have no argument against this. None at all. Only in Cleveland is having a worse record digested as improvement.
Sorry pal, you cannot offer one shred of evidence that says the Browns are building, in any, way, shape or form. All you can say is that a big part of our failure was all the new shit players we added.
SO in 2012, based on YOUR logic, we should go from 9 of 23 starters coming from teh draft @ 4 -12, to, maybe 14 of 23 coming from the draft, with our final record following the trend and being 3 - 13?
There is NO EVIDENCE we are building from teh draft, ONLY that Lerner is adding cheap players and keeping 23 million that he COULD have spent on players.
H&H will be both fired after another failed season. Hey, by all means trade down as far as we can.It has worked great so far
Ya cause you were so sure Heckert was going to be fired this year. Your such a fucking moron. Our defense improves leaps and bounds over the year before with ZERO offseason and the offense got slightly worse after moving to a much more complicated system with no offseason. I offer up evidence for why the Browns could be better next year and why the didn't regress like you claim. Your the asshole you runs around, dick in hand, spouting your stupid bullshit, switching back and forth on what you say you believe in every single season in order to show the Browns are regressing, while spouting out "hey if you don't think I'm right here $1000 dollar bet, lets give it to x to hold onto". Shit next season if we went 10-6 but the defense wasn't ranked as high you would say record doesn't matter
Your a moronic cancer on this board and most people would rather just have you gone than have to read your trash.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
There is absolutely no evidence that the Browns are building through the draft. Where do you get this horseshit?
Because 9 of their 22 starters on offense and defense come from the last 2 drafts.
9-23 in those 2 years, maybe all 9 shouldnt be starting.
Isn't it the assumption that those 9 are starting because they are better than the guys they replaced?
e.g: Joe Haden in lieu of Eric Wright? Phil Taylor in lieu of Shaun Rogers
Of course, the opposite is possible: Owen Marecic in lieu of Vickers. Jason Pinkston in lieu of Eric Steinbach.
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You can take almost any 240 to 280 lb guy that has played high school football right off the street and have an OLB that is at least the equivalent of scott fajita snag a college player in the later rounds that has the speed and ability to shed blockers and you will have a far better player, maybe if fujita gets suspended the idiots with mediocre white guy love blinders on in this regime would actually see just how useless and overmatched this guy consistently is out there often by lone WRs/RBs 50 lbs lighter...
Building through the draft is slow and it sucks but if (and its a big if with this regime) they do it right we will at least be a competitive team again...
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