H&h's "guys"
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OK, so here are the positions on a football team. I am inserting into these positions the "Guys" that Holmgren and Heckert hand picked in the draft that would currently be slated to start for the Browns:
QB: Colt MCCoy
FB: Owen Marecic
HB: Montario Hardesty
WR1: Greg Little
WR2: -
TE: Jordan Cameron
LOT: #
LOG: Jason Pinkston
#ROG: Shaun Lauvao
ROT: -
DE1: Jabal Sheard
DT1: Phil Taylor
DT2: #
DE2: @
OLB1: -
MLB: #
OLB2: @
CB1: Joe Haden
SS: TJ Ward
FS: -
CB2: @
As you can see, fully one half of the slated starters on this team are H&H Guys they have drafted in their first two drafts they have been in charge of for the Cleveland Browns.
The # stand for Browns players that were here before them that they are all right with. These include Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, Ahtyba Rubin, and D'Qwell Jackson.
The @ stand for Free agents that H&H have picked up that they are probably satisfied in the positions they are in. These include Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocung and Frostee Rucker....though these are guys that H&H may be willing to replace given the right circumstances.
The - symbol stands for positions that are not filled by an H&H Guy that they really care about. (sure they may have acquired Usama Young or Scott Fujita...but they were only temporary until they could really get "their guy").
As I see it those 4 spots: FS, OLB, WR, RT are H&Hs #1 priorities in the upcoming draft.
Secondarily, if the right prospect is there, they may use a high pick to replace someone they are not as high on (like Maybe Claiborne in place of Sheldon Brown).
But, as I see it, they will not bring in anyone until later on in the draft to push any of the guys in the list noted above.
Yes, I do believe they WILL bring in a RB and a QB....but as projects.
Starting in the 4th round they may look at an Austin Davis or a Nick Foles(I think they should) at QB, and/or a LaMichael James, Ronnie Hillman, Cyrus Gray, Terence Ganaway at RB.
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So, based on the above, with the Browns picks in Round 1 look for them to take:
#4 Justin Blackmon WR OK St.
#22 Jonathan Martin OT Stanford, or Kendell Wright Baylor (if they go with Claiborne)
#37 LaVonte David OLB Nebraska (if they don't go WR at #22, they will get one here, maybe Reuben Randall LSU
#67 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma or Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
Fourth round: maybe Antonio Allen S S.Carolina
Fourth round: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Fifth round: Austin Davis/Nick Foles/BJ Coleman QB from Tenn-Chattanooga. Make Ballpeen happy, though I don't know if you would always like cheering "C'mon BJ"
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So, based on the above, with the Browns picks in Round 1 look for them to take:
#4 Justin Blackmon WR OK St.
#22 Jonathan Martin OT Stanford, or Kendell Wright Baylor (if they go with Claiborne)
#37 LaVonte David OLB Nebraska (if they don't go WR at #22, they will get one here, maybe Reuben Randall LSU
#67 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma or Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
Fourth round: maybe Antonio Allen S S.Carolina
Fourth round: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Fifth round: Austin Davis/Nick Foles/BJ Coleman QB from Tenn-Chattanooga. Make Ballpeen happy, though I don't know if you would always like cheering "C'mon BJ"
So, based on the above, with the Browns picks in Round 1 look for them to take:
#4 Justin Blackmon WR OK St.
#22 Jonathan Martin OT Stanford, or Kendell Wright Baylor (if they go with Claiborne)
#37 LaVonte David OLB Nebraska (if they don't go WR at #22, they will get one here, maybe Reuben Randall LSU
#67 Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma or Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
Fourth round: maybe Antonio Allen S S.Carolina
Fourth round: Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Fifth round: Austin Davis/Nick Foles/BJ Coleman QB from Tenn-Chattanooga. Make Ballpeen happy, though I don't know if you would always like cheering "C'mon BJ"
To be completely honest I wouldn't be mad with this draft.
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Its possible that H&H boys Buster Skrine or Eric Hagg could also actually be penned in as starters. They seem to possibly have some potential. Not so much with Carlton Mitchell..though he is still on the team.
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Its possible that H&H boys Buster Skrine or Eric Hagg could also actually be penned in as starters. They seem to possibly have some potential. Not so much with Carlton Mitchell..though he is still on the team.
Its possible that H&H boys Buster Skrine or Eric Hagg could also actually be penned in as starters. They seem to possibly have some potential. Not so much with Carlton Mitchell..though he is still on the team.
I swear to god if he makes the team this year I'm gonna blow an o-ring.
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Yo, hate to dismiss your blowing of an o-ring but the other CM(Carlton Mitchell) will be on the team this year. He's a good player, at 6'3" tall with some speed(4.28-4.47) and good hops(36-38") he's a real sleeper who could "get it" this year. He will make a good WR opposite Greg Little who is around the same size as he is. With some receivers it takes them a few years to really get it and his process was slowed by that sick finger injury that kept him out of a lot of games last year... the years before that he has been learning and trying to break the starting roster. I think this year he comes out and makes his presence felt.
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Well, they may keepMitchell around....as perhaps a 4th WR. I still think Blackmon is the choice to go with Little. And based on Cribbs production...and popularity...I think they will keep him at the #3. But Mitchell will probably have to compete with Norwood for the #4.
No, I don't think H&H give up to easily on "Their Guys", and so far Mitchell is "their guy", so I do think he will be given a shot to contribute.
They have only ever given up on Clifton Geathers and Larry Asante.
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Its possible that H&H boys Buster Skrine or Eric Hagg could also actually be penned in as starters. They seem to possibly have some potential. Not so much with Carlton Mitchell..though he is still on the team.
I swear to god if he makes the team this year I'm gonna blow an o-ring.
I swear to god if he makes the team this year I'm gonna blow an o-ring.
Haha a blown o-ring
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Yo, hate to dismiss your blowing of an o-ring but the other CM(Carlton Mitchell) will be on the team this year. He's a good player, at 6'3" tall with some speed(4.28-4.47) and good hops(36-38") he's a real sleeper who could "get it" this year. He will make a good WR opposite Greg Little who is around the same size as he is. With some receivers it takes them a few years to really get it and his process was slowed by that sick finger injury that kept him out of a lot of games last year... the years before that he has been learning and trying to break the starting roster. I think this year he comes out and makes his presence felt.
Yo, hate to dismiss your blowing of an o-ring but the other CM(Carlton Mitchell) will be on the team this year. He's a good player, at 6'3" tall with some speed(4.28-4.47) and good hops(36-38") he's a real sleeper who could "get it" this year. He will make a good WR opposite Greg Little who is around the same size as he is. With some receivers it takes them a few years to really get it and his process was slowed by that sick finger injury that kept him out of a lot of games last year... the years before that he has been learning and trying to break the starting roster. I think this year he comes out and makes his presence felt.
Who gives a shit what he did at the combine, we already drafted him. Why don't you show me a video of his NFL highlights? Oh right, he doesn't have one because he isn't good enough to beat out the rest of the (shitty) receivers on this team to even see any playing time.
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Yo, hate to dismiss your blowing of an o-ring but the other CM(Carlton Mitchell) will be on the team this year. He's a good player, at 6'3" tall with some speed(4.28-4.47) and good hops(36-38") he's a real sleeper who could "get it" this year. He will make a good WR opposite Greg Little who is around the same size as he is. With some receivers it takes them a few years to really get it and his process was slowed by that sick finger injury that kept him out of a lot of games last year... the years before that he has been learning and trying to break the starting roster. I think this year he comes out and makes his presence felt.
Who gives a shit what he did at the combine, we already drafted him. Why don't you show me a video of his NFL highlights? Oh right, he doesn't have one because he isn't good enough to beat out the rest of the (shitty) receivers on this team to even see any playing time.
Who gives a shit what he did at the combine, we already drafted him. Why don't you show me a video of his NFL highlights? Oh right, he doesn't have one because he isn't good enough to beat out the rest of the (shitty) receivers on this team to even see any playing time.
Hasn't he been injured a good portion of the time he has been here?
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Who gives a shit what he did at the combine, we already drafted him. Why don't you show me a video of his NFL highlights? Oh right, he doesn't have one because he isn't good enough to beat out the rest of the (shitty) receivers on this team to even see any playing time.
Hasn't he been injured a good portion of the time he has been here?
Hasn't he been injured a good portion of the time he has been here?
Then let his oft-injured ass take up a roster spot on another NFL team.
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Who gives a shit what he did at the combine, we already drafted him. Why don't you show me a video of his NFL highlights? Oh right, he doesn't have one because he isn't good enough to beat out the rest of the (shitty) receivers on this team to even see any playing time.
Hasn't he been injured a good portion of the time he has been here?
Hasn't he been injured a good portion of the time he has been here?
No. He broke his finger really bad in training camp this year but other than that he has been healthy.
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I think it would be pretty awesome if he made a comeback, ala Dequell Jackson. 2 years out, 3rd one is a charm
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I think it would be pretty awesome if he made a comeback, ala Dequell Jackson. 2 years out, 3rd one is a charm
I think it would be pretty awesome if he made a comeback, ala Dequell Jackson. 2 years out, 3rd one is a charm
comeback from what?
so someone should start a 'DO OR DIE' list. players who we feel need to prove themselves this year or be gone.
we already who's at the top of the list.
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comeback from what?
so someone should start a 'DO OR DIE' list. players who we feel need to prove themselves this year or be gone.
we already who's at the top of the list.
Exactly. What the fuck has he done at the pro level? Oh, I found his wikipedia page. He has two receptions for 12 yards. If he can't beat out MoMass, Little, Cribbs, and Norwood, then get someone who can! We had better draft a receiver.
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comeback from what?
so someone should start a 'DO OR DIE' list. players who we feel need to prove themselves this year or be gone.
we already who's at the top of the list.
Exactly. What the fuck has he done at the pro level? Oh, I found his wikipedia page. He has two receptions for 12 yards. If he can't beat out MoMass, Little, Cribbs, and Norwood, then get someone who can! We had better draft a receiver.
Exactly. What the fuck has he done at the pro level? Oh, I found his wikipedia page. He has two receptions for 12 yards. If he can't beat out MoMass, Little, Cribbs, and Norwood, then get someone who can! We had better draft a receiver.
With 13 picks there is no doubt that they will. Perhaps even with the top pick.
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OK, so here are the positions on a football team. I am inserting into these positions the "Guys" that Holmgren and Heckert hand picked in the draft that would currently be slated to start for the Browns:
QB: Colt MCCoy
FB: Owen Marecic
HB: Montario Hardesty
WR1: Greg Little
WR2: -
TE: Jordan Cameron
LOT: #
LOG: Jason Pinkston
#ROG: Shaun Lauvao
ROT: -
DE1: Jabal Sheard
DT1: Phil Taylor
DT2: #
DE2: @
OLB1: -
MLB: #
OLB2: @
CB1: Joe Haden
SS: TJ Ward
FS: -
CB2: @
As you can see, fully one half of the slated starters on this team are H&H Guys they have drafted in their first two drafts they have been in charge of for the Cleveland Browns.
The # stand for Browns players that were here before them that they are all right with. These include Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, Ahtyba Rubin, and D'Qwell Jackson.
The @ stand for Free agents that H&H have picked up that they are probably satisfied in the positions they are in. These include Sheldon Brown, Chris Gocung and Frostee Rucker....though these are guys that H&H may be willing to replace given the right circumstances.
The - symbol stands for positions that are not filled by an H&H Guy that they really care about. (sure they may have acquired Usama Young or Scott Fujita...but they were only temporary until they could really get "their guy").
As I see it those 4 spots: FS, OLB, WR, RT are H&Hs #1 priorities in the upcoming draft.
Secondarily, if the right prospect is there, they may use a high pick to replace someone they are not as high on (like Maybe Claiborne in place of Sheldon Brown).
But, as I see it, they will not bring in anyone until later on in the draft to push any of the guys in the list noted above.
Yes, I do believe they WILL bring in a RB and a QB....but as projects.
Starting in the 4th round they may look at an Austin Davis or a Nick Foles(I think they should) at QB, and/or a LaMichael James, Ronnie Hillman, Cyrus Gray, Terence Ganaway at RB.
OK, so here are the positions on a football team. I am inserting into these positions the "Guys" that Holmgren and Heckert hand picked in the draft that would currently be slated to start for the Browns:
Interesting analytical approach, Gip...
To be completely honest I wouldn't be mad with this draft.
Agree... but J.Martin falling to #22 is optmistic and why I favor trading down the 4 to nab Floyd and using the spoils of the trade down to move up the 22.
Yo, hate to dismiss your blowing of an o-ring but the other CM(Carlton Mitchell) will be on the team this year. He's a good player, at 6'3" tall with some speed(4.28-4.47) and good hops(36-38") he's a real sleeper...
LOL... yup asleep for two years and counting...
The kid has two-years left on his original, 4-year contract, but he may be the poster boy for combine measurements not translating to the game.
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Its possible that H&H boys Buster Skrine or Eric Hagg could also actually be penned in as starters. They seem to possibly have some potential. Not so much with Carlton Mitchell..though he is still on the team.
I swear to god if he makes the team this year I'm gonna blow an o-ring.
I swear to god if he makes the team this year I'm gonna blow an o-ring.
Someone's got to play on the practice squad or maybe we should get rid of all them too.
Then let his oft-injured ass take up a roster spot on another NFL team.
Get rid of Hardesty too then...
He had 2 catches because they rarely used him. And it's ain't easy being a WR on this team...
I'm definitely biased to him since he was on my school's team. Give him some time, if he doesn't show anything by the end of his contract then let him go.
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