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  • W Westside Steve

    And if I were alex jones....

    The best thing for the administration is an acquittal.

    Since the presidents record is as bad as it is this issue should really motivated the base.

    Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers.

    WSS

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    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    And if I were alex jones....

    The best thing for the administration is an acquittal.

    Since the presidents record is as bad as it is this issue should really motivated the base.

    Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers.

    WSS

    What issue is he bad on exactly?

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      @chicopee-john said:

      I am no fan of Zimmerman.

      Here is my prediction:

      [*]Not Guilty on Crimminal Charges

      [*]Guilty of some silly version of the silly Hate Crime laws / Civil Rights violation

      [*]Plenty of fodder for the November election

      After all, aren't all those votes worth one dead kid?

      John, he's not charged with a hate crime. Those are federal charges. He's being charged with second degree murder by the state of Florida. So, it'd be kind of hard for them to convict him of something he isn't charged with.

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      @heckofajobbrownie said:

      John, he's not charged with a hate crime. Those are federal charges. He's being charged with second degree murder by the state of Florida. So, it'd be kind of hard for them to convict him of something he isn't charged with.

      He will..........eventually...........be convicted by Holder & Co.......on a Federal Charge.

      Just an opinion.

      PS Sounds like the boy's mother is a quality person. More folks should take her lead by listening to her words.

      PPS We can talk about 'Hate Crimes' at some other time. Assume we have differing views. For now, it's back to the salt mine.

      "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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        OJ was innocent for a while...

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          @westside-steve said:

          And if I were alex jones....

          The best thing for the administration is an acquittal.

          Since the presidents record is as bad as it is this issue should really motivated the base.

          Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers.

          WSS

          What issue is he bad on exactly?

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          @heckofajobbrownie said:

          What issue is he bad on exactly?

          Besides the war gas prices economy deficit employment healthcare race relations and the national debt?

          Nothing.

          Which one do you run on? Lynching Zimmerman?

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            @heckofajobbrownie said:

            What issue is he bad on exactly?

            Besides the war gas prices economy deficit employment healthcare race relations and the national debt?

            Nothing.

            Which one do you run on? Lynching Zimmerman?

            WSS

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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            @westside-steve said:

            Besides the war gas prices economy deficit employment healthcare race relations and the national debt?

            Nothing.

            Which one do you run on? Lynching Zimmerman?

            WSS

            That's some pretty solid analysis there, bud. Can't argue with that.

            One of these days I'll give up on you for being the crank that you are. I promise.

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              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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              Here's the affidavit.
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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                If he is found Not Guilty, Holder/Obama will charge him with hate crime, bet your Obama bucks on that. Right Cysco?

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                  @westside-steve said:

                  Besides the war gas prices economy deficit employment healthcare race relations and the national debt?

                  Nothing.

                  Which one do you run on? Lynching Zimmerman?

                  WSS

                  That's some pretty solid analysis there, bud. Can't argue with that.

                  One of these days I'll give up on you for being the crank that you are. I promise.

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                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                  @heckofajobbrownie said:

                  That's some pretty solid analysis there, bud. Can't argue with that.

                  One of these days I'll give up on you for being the crank that you are. I promise.

                  Or just tell me which of those issues you put on the bumper sticker.

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                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                    I didn't understand your initial post (I wonder why) so I thought you were saying that Obama failed on black issues.

                    Also liked the insinuation that blacks only vote for Obama because he's black.

                    Percentage of black vote:

                    Al Gore, 2000: 90 percent

                    John Kerry, 2004: 88 percent

                    Barack Obama, 2008: 95 percent

                    Again, your kernel of truth takes you to someplace you already believe, but your point isn't really grounded in anything other than your own prejudice.

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                      When you look at zimmerman in court next to his white lawyer and the black baliff who does he closer resemble? Just saying.

                      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                        I didn't understand your initial post (I wonder why) so I thought you were saying that Obama failed on black issues.

                        Also liked the insinuation that blacks only vote for Obama because he's black.

                        Percentage of black vote:

                        Al Gore, 2000: 90 percent

                        John Kerry, 2004: 88 percent

                        Barack Obama, 2008: 95 percent

                        Again, your kernel of truth takes you to someplace you already believe, but your point isn't really grounded in anything other than your own prejudice.

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                        @heckofajobbrownie said:

                        I didn't understand your initial post (I wonder why) so I thought you were saying that Obama failed on black issues.

                        Also liked the insinuation that blacks only vote for Obama because he's black.

                        Percentage of black vote:

                        Al Gore, 2000: 90 percent

                        John Kerry, 2004: 88 percent

                        Barack Obama, 2008: 95 percent

                        Again, your kernel of truth takes you to someplace you already believe, but your point isn't really grounded in anything other than your own prejudice.

                        Of course you know that those percentages don't mean much without a big big turnout.

                        So it is imperative to fire them up.

                        You don't have to see karl rove to figure that out.

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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          "Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers."

                          Maybe there's a white power video that agrees with you since the facts don't.

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                            If he is found Not Guilty, Holder/Obama will charge him with hate crime, bet your Obama bucks on that. Right Cysco?

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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            If he is found Not Guilty, Holder/Obama will charge him with hate crime, bet your Obama bucks on that. Right Cysco?

                            What's this got to do with me? Is rather see hate crimes abolished until they charge people of all races with them fairly. For instance if a bunch of waste of life blacks are beating up one white dude in Baltimore chanting "trayvon trayvon " they ought to throw the hate crime book at that trash and send them home to prison. But they won't so why should I want to see George zimmerman charged with one?

                            Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                              "Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers."

                              Maybe there's a white power video that agrees with you since the facts don't.

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                              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                              @heckofajobbrownie said:

                              "Especially the 12 or so percent of the population who support him because of his race but often do not vote in large numbers."

                              Maybe there's a white power video that agrees with you since the facts don't.

                              So post the links to the stats that state something different.

                              The actually complete stats.

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                                H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                I did. I posted you the voting tallies from the last three elections. Black voters vote overwhelmingly Democratic, even when the candidate isn't black. Which tells you that ...the most important thing to black voters is more likely party affiliation, or the issues related to the party. There's no evidence that race plays a large role in moving blacks to vote Democratic.

                                You want to look at the vote turnout in those years too? I suspect it's similar - slightly up for Obama in 2008.

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                                  >>You want to look at the vote turnout in those years too? I suspect it's similar - slightly up for Obama in 2008.>>

                                  I'd be interested in seeing the voter turnout for Blacks last time.

                                  I'd be shocked if the # of Black voters wasn't significantly higher in 2008 than in previous years. At least when Gore or Kerry ran. 'The First Black President' probably had pretty good Black turnout - at least the second term.

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                                    >>You want to look at the vote turnout in those years too? I suspect it's similar - slightly up for Obama in 2008.>>

                                    I'd be interested in seeing the voter turnout for Blacks last time.

                                    I'd be shocked if the # of Black voters wasn't significantly higher in 2008 than in previous years. At least when Gore or Kerry ran. 'The First Black President' probably had pretty good Black turnout - at least the second term.

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                                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                    @chicopee-john said:

                                    >>You want to look at the vote turnout in those years too? I suspect it's similar - slightly up for Obama in 2008.>>

                                    I'd be interested in seeing the voter turnout for Blacks last time.

                                    I'd be shocked if the # of Black voters wasn't significantly higher in 2008 than in previous years. At least when Gore or Kerry ran. 'The First Black President' probably had pretty good Black turnout - at least the second term.

                                    Yeah, sure, it was up. Basically, they voted in the same numbers (percentage-wise) that whites do. But Asians also went up. So did Hispanics. Whites voted slightly less. Does that mean whites were racist and didn't want to vote for a black candidate?

                                    Here you go: "In 2004, according to the census, barely 60 percent of eligible blacks voted. In 2008, nearly 65 percent did."

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                                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                      Heck, you don't get it

                                      Obamao only won because every black person voted for him. They only did this because he's black and they're all racist

                                      But there weren't any whites that didn't vote for Obamao because he was black, that's crazy fascist talk

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                                        Heck, you don't get it

                                        Obamao only won because every black person voted for him. They only did this because he's black and they're all racist

                                        But there weren't any whites that didn't vote for Obamao because he was black, that's crazy fascist talk

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Heck, you don't get it

                                        Obamao only won because every black person voted for him. They only did this because he's black and they're all racist

                                        But there weren't any whites that didn't vote for Obamao because he was black, that's crazy fascist talk

                                        To be fair woody: nearly every black person that voted DID vote for Obama, ONLY because hes black. I'm not being sarcastic, I really believe that is the truth.

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                                          >>Does that mean whites were racist and didn't want to vote for a black candidate>>

                                          In some cases, the answer is yes. Also McCain just wasn't somebody to jump out of your easy chair and endure the inconvenience of the voting location.

                                          >>Here you go: "In 2004, according to the census, barely 60 percent of eligible blacks voted. In 2008, nearly 65 percent did.">>

                                          I'm surprised the percentage of eligible Black voters is so high. Probably higher than for Whites (?).

                                          I've always been bothered by the indifference many Americans take regarding their voting rights.

                                          I voted for neither Obama nor McCain but I still voted - and voted for President too.

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