Assessing The Falcons Trade
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Didn't Vickers sign with the Cowboys?
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
The Browns need to get a guy like Mike Martin from Michigan, Derek Wolfe from Cincy, or Jaye Howard from Florida in the middle to later rounds. Big bodies with good talent to give Taylor/Rubin breathers. Hopefully Taylor will drop some weight this off season and with some breaks from one of these guys he will be a stud. With another talent across from him Hill/Wright/Reuben etc Greg Little can be a force. I also expect Marecic to be the most improved player on the team from last year.
The Browns need to get a guy like Mike Martin from Michigan, Derek Wolfe from Cincy, or Jaye Howard from Florida in the middle to later rounds. Big bodies with good talent to give Taylor/Rubin breathers. Hopefully Taylor will drop some weight this off season and with some breaks from one of these guys he will be a stud. With another talent across from him Hill/Wright/Reuben etc Greg Little can be a force. I also expect Marecic to be the most improved player on the team from last year.
They don't want Taylor to lose any weight. When he got into camp after the lockout they were actually worried that he might have continued to lose weight and dropped into the 320 area. They want him around 330. Rubin is already playing at 310, they don't want 2 DT that size. Taylor pulls his weight off anyway. Good agility and speed for a guy his size.
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The Browns need to get a guy like Mike Martin from Michigan, Derek Wolfe from Cincy, or Jaye Howard from Florida in the middle to later rounds. Big bodies with good talent to give Taylor/Rubin breathers. Hopefully Taylor will drop some weight this off season and with some breaks from one of these guys he will be a stud. With another talent across from him Hill/Wright/Reuben etc Greg Little can be a force. I also expect Marecic to be the most improved player on the team from last year.
They don't want Taylor to lose any weight. When he got into camp after the lockout they were actually worried that he might have continued to lose weight and dropped into the 320 area. They want him around 330. Rubin is already playing at 310, they don't want 2 DT that size. Taylor pulls his weight off anyway. Good agility and speed for a guy his size.
They don't want Taylor to lose any weight. When he got into camp after the lockout they were actually worried that he might have continued to lose weight and dropped into the 320 area. They want him around 330. Rubin is already playing at 310, they don't want 2 DT that size. Taylor pulls his weight off anyway. Good agility and speed for a guy his size.
What the hell do you feed a 330lb professional athlete? That is just insanely huge.
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Taylor has done a great job losing/maintaining weight ever since the end of his junior year at Baylor. I'm sure he eats his 1 gram card and 1-2 gram protein per pound of weight which is around what most people eat to maintain weight and add muscle. To put into perspective thats about 2 1/2 pounds of chicken a day to meet your protein count. Plus I know from reading articles last year that he gets most of his fat from healthy sources such as Salmon and nuts.
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Didn't Vickers sign with the Cowboys?
Yep, about 10 mins after the texans dropped him and before they could resign him like the wanted to. Lay off Harry though, when he was hillis-iz-boss he hinted many times he didn't like vickers so I doubt the name change changed his opinion.
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I think you could make a solid argument for either side. In my opinion Jones is a much better receiver than Little.
If we had taken Jones you could argue based on his stats alone that he would of been much more helpful to our offense. Of course this is pure speculation, but if you compare their complete statistics and and judge them on those alone there is no comparison,Jones is hands down much better in every aspect.
In terms of value, sure we got over on Atlanta - especially if we hit with their pick this year,and they'd better. We can only hope that Little and Taylor continue to improve and stay healthy.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
Yep, about 10 mins after the texans dropped him and before they could resign him like the wanted to. Lay off Harry though, when he was hillis-iz-boss he hinted many times he didn't like vickers so I doubt the name change changed his opinion.
It's not that I hate Vickers it just pisses me off that people are literally calling for Marecic to be cut after one rookie season just because everyone sucked Vickers dick. He is a good blocker but that is all he is and our offense calls for more. Is Marecic going to be the guy? I don't know but I'm not going to call for a replacement after one season of work.
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I think you could make a solid argument for either side. In my opinion Jones is a much better receiver than Little.
If we had taken Jones you could argue based on his stats alone that he would of been much more helpful to our offense. Of course this is pure speculation, but if you compare their complete statistics and and judge them on those alone there is no comparison,Jones is hands down much better in every aspect.
In terms of value, sure we got over on Atlanta - especially if we hit with their pick this year,and they'd better. We can only hope that Little and Taylor continue to improve and stay healthy.
I think you could make a solid argument for either side. In my opinion Jones is a much better receiver than Little.
If we had taken Jones you could argue based on his stats alone that he would of been much more helpful to our offense. Of course this is pure speculation, but if you compare their complete statistics and and judge them on those alone there is no comparison,Jones is hands down much better in every aspect.
You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly.
In terms of value, sure we got over on Atlanta - especially if we hit with their pick this year,and they'd better. We can only hope that Little and Taylor continue to improve and stay healthy.
If we were to turn that #22 pick into say, Kendell Wright, it might be argued by some evaluators that Wright is the equivalent of Jones as a field stretcher.
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OK, there is a question for those of you who may be more adept at talent evaluation than I am:
Compare/contrast Julio Jones to Kendell Wright.
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OK, there is a question for those of you who may be more adept at talent evaluation than I am:
Compare/contrast Julio Jones to Kendell Wright.
OK, there is a question for those of you who may be more adept at talent evaluation than I am:
Compare/contrast Julio Jones to Kendell Wright.
Jones: Obviously taller and more physical, has better range and straight line speed.
Wright: More explosive off the line with his legs. Greater hands, acceleration, and quickness. Healthier and not injured as often.
On par: I think both have the same route running ability.
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"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
"All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer -
"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
I'm far less sure on Randle than I am Wright. If we take a WR at #37 I would prefer it to be Sanu. Randle looks more and more like a taller Robo to me. Sanu is built and runs a 4.45 and like Little is a past RB who used power to punish CB.
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"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
Then that would make the trade Greg Little....who even with the stats you cite is a pubic hair behind Jones, Phil Taylor...who for a rookie was probably better at his position than either Jones or Little were, Marecic, plus, lets say the RB you say them might take (Miller, Martin??), plus pick #118.
For that #118 pick here are some potentials:
Malik Jackson DE Tenn.
James M. Johnson ILB Nevada
Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Marvin Jones WR Cal.
Chris Rainey RB/KR Fla.
Zebrie Sanders OT Fla. St.
Nick Toon WR Wisc.
DeMaris Davis OLB Ark. St.
Trenton Robinson FS Mich. St.
Which of those would you want?
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Well I'm no draft expert but I'd have to say from that list I like Rainey the most. But he wouldn't be needed if we take a guy with a similar skill set higher.
I don't think you can rule out QB for any pick. I'd like to see them get a guy like Kyle Wilber,Nigel Bradman,Vontez Burfict at 118.
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"You have no clue what Jones would have done in the "Murmur" offense. He may have had worse stats than Little. And Jones didn't do better in every aspect. Little had more catches than Jones. Little is more of the big, solid possession receiver and Jones is not. To me, they both accomplished what it was that they were meant to accomplish...and therefore I judge them fairly evenly."
Well that is the obvious rebuttal. And it's true I have no idea what Jones would have done in our offense.
But neither do you,no one does,like I said it's all pure speculation.
Jones may have opened things up and gave Hillis the breathing room to stay healthy and run for another 1000 yards and made McCoy look like a more competent QB.
As far as the stats go Little was our #1 option Jones was the #3 in Atlanta. Jones had more yards,more touchdowns,more YAC, 5+ more YPC,less drops and less balls thrown his way.
I'm just not sold on Wright. If we don't take Richardson I wouldn't be surprised if we went RB at 22 then draft Reuben Randle at 37.
Then that would make the trade Greg Little....who even with the stats you cite is a pubic hair behind Jones, Phil Taylor...who for a rookie was probably better at his position than either Jones or Little were, Marecic, plus, lets say the RB you say them might take (Miller, Martin??), plus pick #118.
For that #118 pick here are some potentials:
Malik Jackson DE Tenn.
James M. Johnson ILB Nevada
Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Marvin Jones WR Cal.
Chris Rainey RB/KR Fla.
Zebrie Sanders OT Fla. St.
Nick Toon WR Wisc.
DeMaris Davis OLB Ark. St.
Trenton Robinson FS Mich. St.
Which of those would you want?
Then that would make the trade Greg Little....who even with the stats you cite is a pubic hair behind Jones, Phil Taylor...who for a rookie was probably better at his position than either Jones or Little were, Marecic, plus, lets say the RB you say them might take (Miller, Martin??), plus pick #118.
For that #118 pick here are some potentials:
Malik Jackson DE Tenn.
James M. Johnson ILB Nevada
Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Marvin Jones WR Cal.
Chris Rainey RB/KR Fla.
Zebrie Sanders OT Fla. St.
Nick Toon WR Wisc.
DeMaris Davis OLB Ark. St.
Trenton Robinson FS Mich. St.
Which of those would you want?
First time I read through this I thought you actually called Little a Pubic hair.
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Then that would make the trade Greg Little....who even with the stats you cite is a pubic hair behind Jones, Phil Taylor...who for a rookie was probably better at his position than either Jones or Little were, Marecic, plus, lets say the RB you say them might take (Miller, Martin??), plus pick #118.
For that #118 pick here are some potentials:
Malik Jackson DE Tenn.
James M. Johnson ILB Nevada
Ronnie Hillman RB SDSU
Marvin Jones WR Cal.
Chris Rainey RB/KR Fla.
Zebrie Sanders OT Fla. St.
Nick Toon WR Wisc.
DeMaris Davis OLB Ark. St.
Trenton Robinson FS Mich. St.
Which of those would you want?
First time I read through this I thought you actually called Little a Pubic hair.
First time I read through this I thought you actually called Little a Pubic hair.
Not quite. Thinking was more along these lines:
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