The Greatest Team In History. Championship Game
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OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
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1985 rosterComplete Roster of 1985 season (1/26/1986)
Quarterbacks
9 Jim McMahon
4 Steve Fuller
18 Mike Tomczak
Offensive backs
34 Walter Payton RB
26 Matt Suhey RB
20 Thomas Sanders RB
29 Dennis Gentry RB
33 Calvin Thomas RB
Receivers
83 Willie Gault
85 Dennis McKinnon
81 James Manness
82 Ken Margerum
84 Brian Baschnagel
86 Brad Anderson
89 Keith Ortego
Tight ends
87 Emery Moorehead
80 Tim Wrightman
Kickers
6 Kevin Butler K
8 Maury Buford P
Offensive line
62 Mark Bortz G
63 Jay Hilgenberg C
57 Tom Thayer G
78 Keith Van Horne T
60 Tom Andrews OL
69 Sean Sloan G
71 Andy Frederick OL
74 Jim Covert T
75 Stefan Humphries OL
79 Kurt Becker G
Defensive line
99 Dan Hampton DL
95 Richard Dent DE
76 Steve McMichael DT
72 William Perry DT
70 Henry Waechter DL
73 Mike Hartenstine DL
98 Tyrone Keys DE
Linebackers
50 Mike Singletary MLB
55 Otis Wilson LB
58 Wilber Marshall LB
51 Jim Morrissey LB
52 Cliff Thrift LB
53 Dan Rains LB
54 Brian Cabral LB
59 Ron Rivera LB
Cornerbacks
27 Mike Richardson
21 Leslie Frazier
48 Reggie Phillips
Defensive backs
31 Ken Taylor
23 Shaun Gayle
Safeties
22 Dave Duerson SS
45 Gary Fencik
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1948 Browns roster. See:
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The Bears i hate to say it as a browns fan but as a football fan itself with no bias at all when looking at each team.
The 1985 Bears are the Best of the Best in Today's History.
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OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote: Browns
I'm glad the Bears beat the Dolphins, don't know if I could have voted for the Brows over the Dolphins. Undefeated is undefeated. And since we all know the AAFC Browns were better than the NFL teams of the same era thanks to the 1950 season, I gotta go with the undefeated Browns.
Otto Graham versus Jim McManhon?
Bitch, please.
Zombo
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OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
Da Bears would kill the 48 Browns
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yea this probably isn't bias at all haha. I can't really form an opinion because I never got to see either team actually perform, but just out of knowledge I would pick the Bears team.
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End of the 1st Qtr
'85 Bears 4 (2 safeties??? Gotta be a Champ game record*)
'48 Browns 3 (The Toe hit from 36 yds)
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* as Gipper shuffles off to consult his Pro Football Almanac...
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OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
I knew I could count on you Gipper - you know the Weekly World News history of reporting absurd stories while claiming they were nothing but the truth? If you didn't work for a Tabloid, you really missed your true calling. I can always count on you to post something so ridiculous, hypocritical, baseless and innacurate that it makes me laugh.
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a group of Browns fans to believe that their teams most successful season would rank among the greatest teams ever - obviously you realize enough to say Championship Game instead of NFL History because the 1948 Browns "undefeated" season is not recognized as such by the NFL.
The 1948 Browns played against 7 teams the entire season, only one of which - the 49ers - had a winning record. The composite record of their opponents was 84-112. While it is true that the majority of Super Bowl winners have ultimately faced weak regular season schedules: the 1999 Rams faced a paltry composite record of 93-163 from their opponents during the regular season and the 1970 Baltimore Colts faced a record of 67-119-9. In reality, out of 46 Super Bowl winners, only 7 faced a regular season schedule with a composite W/L record over .500.
However, every one of those Super Bowl teams still had to play through a post-season in order to qualify for a Super Bowl berth, playing against teams that were equally capable of winning the league championship. Just this past season, the Packers became the 3rd consecutive team to finish a regular season 15-1 but not reach the Super Bowl. Constrast this to the Browns, who did not have to play a single playoff game prior to the championship game, they also played against a 7-7 team in the championship game. Without looking it up, 99% of Browns fans would not even know they played in that championship game, much less a player on that team.
Maybe it does not matter, the team would be defunct 12 months after it "earned" the right to play for the prestigous AAFC Championship. And considering this is the Gipper we're talking about - you have to know that the Browns victory over that team was more impressive than the Steelers defeat of the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl XIII -- the only Super Bowl to date that featured QBs with 2 Super Bowl wins and fielded the most Hall of Famers competing against each other than any previous Super Bowl.
For the record:
When ranking the composite records faced by Super Bowl winning teams, the 1979 Steelers (135-121) and 2008 Steelers (133-120-3) are #1 and #2 in that category.
But, it's typical. You are desperately trying to overcome your inferiority complex to the Steelers which manifests itself
Hypocrisy: Calling James Harrison dirty while celebrating Turkey Jones slam of Terry Bradshaw as one of the greatest plays in team history
Hypocrisy 2: Admitting to enjoying when a bad call is made against Steelers (Joe Nedney), but crying of a fix if the Steelers get a call
Denial: The NFL Fact and Record Book does not recognize AAFC Championships and lists NFL Championships in category of Conference Championships
Jealousy: The belief that the 8 combined Championships in Cleveland (439 championships if its Gipper talking)is superior to 6 Super Bowls
Delusional: Any change on the Steelers means that they are in decline and the Browns will soon pass them - same story for over 2 decades
Embarrassment: While the Steelers fans utilize a Gold Towel as a symbol while cheering, Browns fans throw beer bottles and dog bones on the field
Desperation: Having to resort to non-football methods of "attack" because on the field, the Steelers own the Browns so much you have nothing
By the way, I still haven't forgotten your comment about cheering the WTC attack. I don't care about any insults, but for that level of classlessness you really do deserve to be thrown into a room with surviving friends of NYC Firefighers and Police who died that day and get your ass kicked. But please, continue to post your dim-witted and pathetic attempts to validate "Cleveland" championships from defunct franchises and other stupidity - it's a hobby to come on here every once in a while to destroy the fantasy world that you live in by giving you the dose of reality in the form of fact - the fact that the team you root for absolutely sucks, and so do you.
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Good job, Mike...
WTF did that shit come from?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
OK, the Brackets are down to the last two teams. The Championship matchup is between:
The undefeated 1948 Cleveland Browns
VS.
The 1985 Chicago Bears who were 18-1
Your vote:
I knew I could count on you Gipper - you know the Weekly World News history of reporting absurd stories while claiming they were nothing but the truth? If you didn't work for a Tabloid, you really missed your true calling. I can always count on you to post something so ridiculous, hypocritical, baseless and innacurate that it makes me laugh.
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a group of Browns fans to believe that their teams most successful season would rank among the greatest teams ever - obviously you realize enough to say Championship Game instead of NFL History because the 1948 Browns "undefeated" season is not recognized as such by the NFL.
The 1948 Browns played against 7 teams the entire season, only one of which - the 49ers - had a winning record. The composite record of their opponents was 84-112. While it is true that the majority of Super Bowl winners have ultimately faced weak regular season schedules: the 1999 Rams faced a paltry composite record of 93-163 from their opponents during the regular season and the 1970 Baltimore Colts faced a record of 67-119-9. In reality, out of 46 Super Bowl winners, only 7 faced a regular season schedule with a composite W/L record over .500.
However, every one of those Super Bowl teams still had to play through a post-season in order to qualify for a Super Bowl berth, playing against teams that were equally capable of winning the league championship. Just this past season, the Packers became the 3rd consecutive team to finish a regular season 15-1 but not reach the Super Bowl. Constrast this to the Browns, who did not have to play a single playoff game prior to the championship game, they also played against a 7-7 team in the championship game. Without looking it up, 99% of Browns fans would not even know they played in that championship game, much less a player on that team.
Maybe it does not matter, the team would be defunct 12 months after it "earned" the right to play for the prestigous AAFC Championship. And considering this is the Gipper we're talking about - you have to know that the Browns victory over that team was more impressive than the Steelers defeat of the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl XIII -- the only Super Bowl to date that featured QBs with 2 Super Bowl wins and fielded the most Hall of Famers competing against each other than any previous Super Bowl.
For the record:
When ranking the composite records faced by Super Bowl winning teams, the 1979 Steelers (135-121) and 2008 Steelers (133-120-3) are #1 and #2 in that category.
But, it's typical. You are desperately trying to overcome your inferiority complex to the Steelers which manifests itself
Hypocrisy: Calling James Harrison dirty while celebrating Turkey Jones slam of Terry Bradshaw as one of the greatest plays in team history
Hypocrisy 2: Admitting to enjoying when a bad call is made against Steelers (Joe Nedney), but crying of a fix if the Steelers get a call
Denial: The NFL Fact and Record Book does not recognize AAFC Championships and lists NFL Championships in category of Conference Championships
Jealousy: The belief that the 8 combined Championships in Cleveland (439 championships if its Gipper talking)is superior to 6 Super Bowls
Delusional: Any change on the Steelers means that they are in decline and the Browns will soon pass them - same story for over 2 decades
Embarrassment: While the Steelers fans utilize a Gold Towel as a symbol while cheering, Browns fans throw beer bottles and dog bones on the field
Desperation: Having to resort to non-football methods of "attack" because on the field, the Steelers own the Browns so much you have nothing
By the way, I still haven't forgotten your comment about cheering the WTC attack. I don't care about any insults, but for that level of classlessness you really do deserve to be thrown into a room with surviving friends of NYC Firefighers and Police who died that day and get your ass kicked. But please, continue to post your dim-witted and pathetic attempts to validate "Cleveland" championships from defunct franchises and other stupidity - it's a hobby to come on here every once in a while to destroy the fantasy world that you live in by giving you the dose of reality in the form of fact - the fact that the team you root for absolutely sucks, and so do you.
I knew I could count on you Gipper - you know the Weekly World News history of reporting absurd stories while claiming they were nothing but the truth? If you didn't work for a Tabloid, you really missed your true calling. I can always count on you to post something so ridiculous, hypocritical, baseless and innacurate that it makes me laugh.
It's perfectly reasonable to expect a group of Browns fans to believe that their teams most successful season would rank among the greatest teams ever - obviously you realize enough to say Championship Game instead of NFL History because the 1948 Browns "undefeated" season is not recognized as such by the NFL.
The 1948 Browns played against 7 teams the entire season, only one of which - the 49ers - had a winning record. The composite record of their opponents was 84-112. While it is true that the majority of Super Bowl winners have ultimately faced weak regular season schedules: the 1999 Rams faced a paltry composite record of 93-163 from their opponents during the regular season and the 1970 Baltimore Colts faced a record of 67-119-9. In reality, out of 46 Super Bowl winners, only 7 faced a regular season schedule with a composite W/L record over .500.
However, every one of those Super Bowl teams still had to play through a post-season in order to qualify for a Super Bowl berth, playing against teams that were equally capable of winning the league championship. Just this past season, the Packers became the 3rd consecutive team to finish a regular season 15-1 but not reach the Super Bowl. Constrast this to the Browns, who did not have to play a single playoff game prior to the championship game, they also played against a 7-7 team in the championship game. Without looking it up, 99% of Browns fans would not even know they played in that championship game, much less a player on that team.
Maybe it does not matter, the team would be defunct 12 months after it "earned" the right to play for the prestigous AAFC Championship. And considering this is the Gipper we're talking about - you have to know that the Browns victory over that team was more impressive than the Steelers defeat of the Dallas Cowboys in Super Bowl XIII -- the only Super Bowl to date that featured QBs with 2 Super Bowl wins and fielded the most Hall of Famers competing against each other than any previous Super Bowl.
For the record:
When ranking the composite records faced by Super Bowl winning teams, the 1979 Steelers (135-121) and 2008 Steelers (133-120-3) are #1 and #2 in that category.
But, it's typical. You are desperately trying to overcome your inferiority complex to the Steelers which manifests itself
Hypocrisy: Calling James Harrison dirty while celebrating Turkey Jones slam of Terry Bradshaw as one of the greatest plays in team history
Hypocrisy 2: Admitting to enjoying when a bad call is made against Steelers (Joe Nedney), but crying of a fix if the Steelers get a call
Denial: The NFL Fact and Record Book does not recognize AAFC Championships and lists NFL Championships in category of Conference Championships
Jealousy: The belief that the 8 combined Championships in Cleveland (439 championships if its Gipper talking)is superior to 6 Super Bowls
Delusional: Any change on the Steelers means that they are in decline and the Browns will soon pass them - same story for over 2 decades
Embarrassment: While the Steelers fans utilize a Gold Towel as a symbol while cheering, Browns fans throw beer bottles and dog bones on the field
Desperation: Having to resort to non-football methods of "attack" because on the field, the Steelers own the Browns so much you have nothing
By the way, I still haven't forgotten your comment about cheering the WTC attack. I don't care about any insults, but for that level of classlessness you really do deserve to be thrown into a room with surviving friends of NYC Firefighers and Police who died that day and get your ass kicked. But please, continue to post your dim-witted and pathetic attempts to validate "Cleveland" championships from defunct franchises and other stupidity - it's a hobby to come on here every once in a while to destroy the fantasy world that you live in by giving you the dose of reality in the form of fact - the fact that the team you root for absolutely sucks, and so do you.
I didn't bother to read whatever stupidity it is that you blathered. All I can say is that you had your chance to vote in the prior rounds...and you didn't....and I note, parenthetically, that I don't see a vote here....so you abrogate any rights you have to complain.
One more vote in the early rounds of this and the Browns would have been out. Would that have made you happy. It was I, in fact that saved the '78 Steelers in the round where they faced the '84 49ers. It was a tie, and it was my vote for the Steelers that broke the tie in their favor.
Maybe what I will do is to go back and repeat this tournament....and leave all Browns teams out.
But then, you would probably act just like those Nazi/Muslim Holocaust deniers and claim that history didn't happen when your team got beat.
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Good job, Mike...
WTF did that shit come from?
Like I said, I didn't read it.....but I imagine that it was his usual shuffle about how the Browns were never any good....how history didn't begin until 1970....how Akron/Cleveland/Canton represent totally different planets...how the sun rises and sets on Pittsburgh....how he accuses me of putting forth propaganda when all I do is state facts.
I think I was pretty fair in this vote. There were a lot of close matchups. Including this last one (which the Bears are leading by the way....I suspect he probably didn't even mention that).
I mean, the fucking idiot is SHOCKED, SHOCKED that a great Cleveland Browns team would be doing well on a Cleveland Browns board.
But then he goes and doesn't vote.
....no wonder we got GW Bush for Prez in 2000....if guys don't vote for who they want, the other guy wins.
Too bad, so sad, your Dad.
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Interim vote: '85 Bears are leading by 2 votes. Anyone who hasn't voted is welcome to...even idjits.
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I will cut this off tomorrow afternoon, before the draft.
So anyone wanting to get their vote in, do it before then.
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