The Best Draft Scenario For Cleveland, By Far
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No one is jumping to three to take Richardson you clown.
No one is jumping to three to take Richardson you clown.
Its very possible, the new draft slot pay is way less than years past. Still dont sleep on the Pats to have a huge trade up into the top 5 to get TR or Claiborne. They have plenty of ammo to do it.
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Found this gem a little bit ago for those of you that have some sense to interpret.(Bay need not apply, your obviously "touched")
These are the top 15 players that scored touchdowns last season:
LeSean McCoy RB 20 tds 17 run 3 catch
Rob Gronkowski TE 18 tds 1 run 17 catch
Calvin Johnson wr 16 tds all catch
Jordy Nelson wr 15 TDS
Ray Rice RB 15 tds 12 run 3 catch
Cam Newton QB 14 tds all run LMAO
Marshawn Lynch RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Adrian Peterson RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Arian Foster RB 12 tds 10 run 2 catch
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 11 tds 8 run 2 catch
Jimmy Graham TE 11 tds all catch
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB 11 tds
Maurice Jones-Drew RB 11 tds 8 run 3 catch
Laurent Robinson WR 11 tds
Michael Turner RB 11 tds
Let's see, we have 9 rbs in the top 15 player TDs, only 3 wide reciever in top 15, 2 TE in top 15 and one QB in top 15... No, runningbacks aren't important at all bay. It appears that you're the fucking clown, you eunuch.
Richardson is Elite and will score above 2/3 of these guys putting him at top 5 in scoring next season, but you're right nobody needs a weapon like that
Oh and BTW- Who was it that drafted the player in the number 1 spot again, who drafted LeSean McCoy?
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Found this gem a little bit ago for those of you that have some sense to interpret.(Bay need not apply, your obviously "touched")
These are the top 15 players that scored touchdowns last season:
LeSean McCoy RB 20 tds 17 run 3 catch
Rob Gronkowski TE 18 tds 1 run 17 catch
Calvin Johnson wr 16 tds all catch
Jordy Nelson wr 15 TDS
Ray Rice RB 15 tds 12 run 3 catch
Cam Newton QB 14 tds all run LMAO
Marshawn Lynch RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Adrian Peterson RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Arian Foster RB 12 tds 10 run 2 catch
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 11 tds 8 run 2 catch
Jimmy Graham TE 11 tds all catch
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB 11 tds
Maurice Jones-Drew RB 11 tds 8 run 3 catch
Laurent Robinson WR 11 tds
Michael Turner RB 11 tds
Let's see, we have 9 rbs in the top 15 player TDs, only 3 wide reciever in top 15, 2 TE in top 15 and one QB in top 15... No, runningbacks aren't important at all bay. It appears that you're the fucking clown, you eunuch.
Richardson is Elite and will score above 2/3 of these guys putting him at top 5 in scoring next season, but you're right nobody needs a weapon like that
Oh and BTW- Who was it that drafted the player in the number 1 spot again, who drafted LeSean McCoy?
Found this gem a little bit ago for those of you that have some sense to interpret.(Bay need not apply, your obviously "touched")
These are the top 15 players that scored touchdowns last season:
LeSean McCoy RB 20 tds 17 run 3 catch
Rob Gronkowski TE 18 tds 1 run 17 catch
Calvin Johnson wr 16 tds all catch
Jordy Nelson wr 15 TDS
Ray Rice RB 15 tds 12 run 3 catch
Cam Newton QB 14 tds all run LMAO
Marshawn Lynch RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Adrian Peterson RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Arian Foster RB 12 tds 10 run 2 catch
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 11 tds 8 run 2 catch
Jimmy Graham TE 11 tds all catch
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB 11 tds
Maurice Jones-Drew RB 11 tds 8 run 3 catch
Laurent Robinson WR 11 tds
Michael Turner RB 11 tds
Let's see, we have 9 rbs in the top 15 player TDs, only 3 wide reciever in top 15, 2 TE in top 15 and one QB in top 15... No, runningbacks aren't important at all bay. It appears that you're the fucking clown, you eunuch.
Richardson is Elite and will score above 2/3 of these guys putting him at top 5 in scoring next season, but you're right nobody needs a weapon like that
Oh and BTW- Who was it that drafted the player in the number 1 spot again, who drafted LeSean McCoy?
Not a bad argument but most will say how many of those were 1st round picks.
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I understand where you're coming from but you've got to look at the individual player IMO. Where you are picked at doesn't really matter. If the Browns were to take Burfict at #4 overall does that make him any different of a player? Same thing with Tom Brady, LeSean McCoy and Tim Tebow. You have to trust what you see, what do your eyes tell you. A guy might go in round two because of team needs, or was overlooked. Tom Heckert said he's been lucky before, it's about a lot of luck most of the time.
Who would argue that Jabaal Sheard should not have been a first round pick after last season. He's a beast, but he went in round 2. We were lucky that some teams missed on him... I think the point is that it's all a gamble, BUT if you have a SURE thing, someone who you know will be great for a long time, you've got to pull the trigger.
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I understand where you're coming from but you've got to look at the individual player IMO. Where you are picked at doesn't really matter. If the Browns were to take Burfict at #4 overall does that make him any different of a player? Same thing with Tom Brady, LeSean McCoy and Tim Tebow. You have to trust what you see, what do your eyes tell you. A guy might go in round two because of team needs, or was overlooked. Tom Heckert said he's been lucky before, it's about a lot of luck most of the time.
Who would argue that Jabaal Sheard should not have been a first round pick after last season. He's a beast, but he went in round 2. We were lucky that some teams missed on him... I think the point is that it's all a gamble, BUT if you have a SURE thing, someone who you know will be great for a long time, you've got to pull the trigger.
I understand where you're coming from but you've got to look at the individual player IMO. Where you are picked at doesn't really matter. If the Browns were to take Burfict at #4 overall does that make him any different of a player? Same thing with Tom Brady, LeSean McCoy and Tim Tebow. You have to trust what you see, what do your eyes tell you. A guy might go in round two because of team needs, or was overlooked. Tom Heckert said he's been lucky before, it's about a lot of luck most of the time.
Who would argue that Jabaal Sheard should not have been a first round pick after last season. He's a beast, but he went in round 2. We were lucky that some teams missed on him... I think the point is that it's all a gamble, BUT if you have a SURE thing, someone who you know will be great for a long time, you've got to pull the trigger.
I want to get TR just as bad as you do. I was just saying most people will argue that those rbs were drafted way later in the draft, Foster wasnt even drafted. There is a potential bust for any player in this draft, so get who we need and get to playing.
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Who is going to trade up for Tannehill? Who? Tannehill is a reach @ #8 and we want the Dolphins to move to #4? I dont expect their GM to be stupid.
Who is going to trade up for Tannehill? Who? Tannehill is a reach @ #8 and we want the Dolphins to move to #4? I dont expect their GM to be stupid.
It's hard to say, but I've been reading stuff that Tannehill is the guy they REALLY want and see as their franchise guy. Sitting there with teams in a good position to trade back (Vikings, Browns, even TB IMO) for a team that might want Tannehill in the 4-7 range may easily be something they don't care to do. In the scenario I posted outside of a higher second round pick they aren't giving up much. Like i said, if Tannehill is the guy they want they would and should do something to get him for 100%
As for TR not going past the bucs, it is possible that's for sure. But Claiborne is going to be really hard for them to pass up as well. He's touted as a better overall player that Peterson last year who went in the same spot, and with Blount already on the roster it's not as though they are hurting at the position. If TR slips past TB it's very unlikely that the Rams/Jags take him, so unless a team trades up before us he's there at 8. In fact, I feel pretty confident that would happen.
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Found this gem a little bit ago for those of you that have some sense to interpret.(Bay need not apply, your obviously "touched")
These are the top 15 players that scored touchdowns last season:
LeSean McCoy RB 20 tds 17 run 3 catch
Rob Gronkowski TE 18 tds 1 run 17 catch
Calvin Johnson wr 16 tds all catch
Jordy Nelson wr 15 TDS
Ray Rice RB 15 tds 12 run 3 catch
Cam Newton QB 14 tds all run LMAO
Marshawn Lynch RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Adrian Peterson RB 13 tds 12 run 1 catch
Arian Foster RB 12 tds 10 run 2 catch
Ahmad Bradshaw RB 11 tds 8 run 2 catch
Jimmy Graham TE 11 tds all catch
BenJarvus Green-Ellis RB 11 tds
Maurice Jones-Drew RB 11 tds 8 run 3 catch
Laurent Robinson WR 11 tds
Michael Turner RB 11 tds
Let's see, we have 9 rbs in the top 15 player TDs, only 3 wide reciever in top 15, 2 TE in top 15 and one QB in top 15... No, runningbacks aren't important at all bay. It appears that you're the fucking clown, you eunuch.
Richardson is Elite and will score above 2/3 of these guys putting him at top 5 in scoring next season, but you're right nobody needs a weapon like that
Oh and BTW- Who was it that drafted the player in the number 1 spot again, who drafted LeSean McCoy?
Found this gem a little bit ago for those of you that have some sense to interpret.
et's see, we have 9 rbs in the top 15 player TDs, only 3 wide reciever in top 15, 2 TE in top 15 and one QB in top 15... No, runningbacks aren't important at all bay. It appears that you're the fucking clown, you eunuch.
Richardson is Elite and will score above 2/3 of these guys putting him at top 5 in scoring next season, but you're right nobody needs a weapon like that
Oh and BTW- Who was it that drafted the player in the number 1 spot again, who drafted LeSean McCoy?
Interpret??? I think you meant interpolate... But regardless, if we're going to spend a #4 on a RB, then we'd better have to fuckin' extrapolate...
Give your brain a rest, Po, all your list does is confirm the fact that RB TD production is not related to draft position. The previous stud back, AP, is tied for #7. Hurt you say? Fair enough... I'll look at all his years in the league... And I'll throw in an analysis of number of RB's in the top twenty-some including ties...
Year A.P. RB/Tot
2011 T-07 16/27 ---- Looks like someone was cherry pickin' when they chose their data cut-off ----
2010 T-03 09/22
2009 # 01 12/23
2008 T-16 17/24
2007 # 06 09/23
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AVG. #6.6 12.6/23.8 -- So on average AP is around 7th in TD's scored and RB's number just over 50% of the top TD scorer
I don't have time to look up every RB on your list and show how low they were taken in the draft. I suppose there's no chance that pointing out that numero uno LeSean was chosen with the 53rd overall pick will suffice... is there? How about if I throw in that the top RB in 2010 was the undrafted Arian Foster?
Crunch on this 2011 data a while
TD's by: Rsh Rec
01 Packrs 12 51
02 Saints 16 46
03 Patrts 18 39
04 DLions 09 41
05 Pnthrs 26 21
06 Giants 17 29
07 Falcns 14 29
07 Eagles 20 22
07 Chrgrs 16 27
10 NYJets 14 26
11 BBills 12 24
12 Ravens 15 21
12 Texans 18 20
14 Cowbys 05 33
14 Vikngs 18 20
It would appear that only one of the top 15 scoring teams of 2011 ran for more TD's than they passed for... the Cam Newton led Car Panthers... Take away all of Cam's 14 rushing TD's and they drop to 12 by run, but still have 21 by pass... Apparently even Cam can't pass to himself.
Who would argue that Jabaal Sheard should not have been a first round pick after last season. He's a beast, but he went in round 2. We were lucky that some teams missed on him... I think the point is that it's all a gamble, BUT if you have a SURE thing, someone who you know will be great for a long time, you've got to pull the trigger.
Sheard isn't relevant to ypur support of TR. It does, however, point out that Heckert spotted a talent others undervalued. I'm gonna guess you do not think that's the case with TR...
C'mon 26 Apr....
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Our best option of trading down is with St. Louis at 6. I think they want Blackmon, and might be willing to trade up to make sure they get him. I would be happy with the 6th and one of their 2nd rounders. I think the only players Cleveland are considering at 4 are Claiborne and Kalil. I know everyone is talking playmakers but another great offensive lineman will help create playmakers. I also see the possibility of us trading up from 22nd in order to get Floyd.
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Richardson at #4 is a safe pick.
Someone trading up to #3 to snag Richardson is a possibility.
Top defensive player on the board at #22.
Top WR on the board at #37.
Weedon being there in the 3rd. round. Otherwise concentrate your picks on the de3fensive side.
Theres no way they go all offense with the top 3 picks.
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