What is your Criteria to determine Browns Success
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Your title is different than the question...If i go by the question, i say what i have said for 30 years...anything less than a Super Bowl win is a failed season.
If we are talking progress....9-10 wins.
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This team proved that it can win 10 games last year. So 10-6 is the goal.
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When someone says "that's Cleveland Brown's type of football", and you know exactly what they mean.
When we don't raid other teams to find our talent.
When other teams start signing our players to improve their team, and we replace them without missing a beat.
When our front office hires people we have confidence they are the right person.
After that it will fall together.
A winning season next year doesn't mean success. The Falcons and Cardinals, etc. are in the playoffs, but success is defined by the likes of the Eagles, Steelers, and Colts. When the team is more often than not, in the playoffs.
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I'd like to end the trend of opposing teams' 100 yd rushers when they play us. Last I counted was near 28 of our last 32 games had one (or two
).More wins than losses.
Not using the draft to staff our practice squad.
A more aggressive defense.
A keg of stick-um in #17's locker (he's nails if he can hang on to 15 more footballs this season).
Harrison as our feature back, JL as goal line/ short yardage.
Rucker/Heiden as TE's.
Winslow as our #2/3, Steptoe/Cribbs sharing the slot role. (Bye Stallworth)
Drafting some OL depth (Big 10/12)
Curry round 1
Finding a back-up QB (so long, DA, and thanks for 2007-seriously.)
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This team proved that it can win 10 games last year. So 10-6 is the goal.
This team proved that it can win 10 games last year. So 10-6 is the goal.
It's not going to be the same team though.
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7 wins or better would be great but more importantly i want to see high spirited disciplined motivated play on the field with a lot of kool-aid consumption from the coaches to the players win or lose...and a structure that can be seen developing instead of a mess being kept silent..
Lerner needs a better pr guy to be the face of the club..
Keys i see as important regardless of the individual hires lerner may make are:
Collective teamwork and cooperation in the front office
Teamwork and consistancy developing on the field
Motivational player discipline
Proper discipline rules and their firm application on the field are a must(benching/releasing/docking the DAs/edwards/cousins etc)if they cant/arent getting it done and hurting the teams efforts because of faults that are theirs alone..
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.500 or better
at least 4-2 in division, 1 win over Pitt
2 solid starter and 2 more guys that can start (START, NOT BACKUP) within 3 seasons in the draft
1 key FA pickup
coaches that can "farm" late round picks, 1-2 seasons on the practice squad, develop into at least solid backup
no more bend but don't break hum drum D
run the ball, stop the run
low turnover offense
high turnover defense
If we have to let Braylon "inconsistent as DA" Edwards and Kellen "Whoops there went my knee" Winslow go to build this team, so be it.
I want to be able to see when a player is on the decline and let them go before giving a big contract to get.... NOTHING in return.
So in order to realize these goals we need a solid gm, good scouts and coaching staff with excellent position coaches.
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a winning seasin with this team in year 1 is asking a bit much IMO
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We know that the Browns will have a new GM and a new coach. But how will you determine if they are moving in the right direction ?
>> Should they have more wins than this year than last ? ()
>> Should they be higher than .5% ?
>> Should they atleast win 10 games or finish with a playoff spot ?
>> Beat the Steelers?
what are your thoughts ? What is your bench mark that the Browns have to cross in order to prove to you that they are moving in the right direction ?
We know that the Browns will have a new GM and a new coach. But how will you determine if they are moving in the right direction ?
>> Should they have more wins than this year than last ? ()
>> Should they be higher than .5% ?
>> Should they atleast win 10 games or finish with a playoff spot ?
>> Beat the Steelers?
what are your thoughts ? What is your bench mark that the Browns have to cross in order to prove to you that they are moving in the right direction ?
EVERY ONE OF THE ABOVE ITEMS SHOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED NEXT YEAR. IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE IF YOU LOOK BACK AT YOUR LIST.
First you win more than this year, then you move over .500, beat the steelers (at least split) then you win 10 or more and get in the playoffs. If you use the above list as building blocks... They can all be done.. First get the right coach, the right GM, good compensation for DA.. and have a great draft.. This team has the talent... The coaching was pathetic this year.
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With a new GM and HC, i'd say a winning season (over .500), better than .500 in the division, and beating PIT at least once. That's just for year 1.
Masters said:
With a new GM and HC, i'd say a winning season (over .500), better than .500 in the division, and beating PIT at least once. That's just for year 1.completly agree. The only thing I would add would be no BS. No players crying to media about being treated like a peice of meat, no more complaining about how you went to michigan and we dont like you, and finally no emails from the GM cursing out a fan.
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