Colt Mccoy To Be Traded
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McCoy to the packers makes a lot of sense for them. He's a solid back up, but the Browns as an organization need to get behind Weeden which they will. He's too old to come in and possibly not start day one. I like Weeden as a football player a lot and even though he may have been over drafted he's a solid upgrade to the most important position on the field.
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If the Browns trade McCoy it will be because they know that they have screwed him over royally and that they owe him the opportunity to be able to do something with a team that is capable of utilizing his skills....and it will be a recognition that their coaching staff is not competent enough to utilize his skills.
And by the way, there is no telling if they are competent enough to utilize BW's skills either.
Hopefully they will fucking wise up and get a good receiver and a good RT to go along with BW and TR...because without those elements the Browns offense will continue to be trying to row upstream without a paddle.
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And another one bites the dust.
And another one bites the dust.
Wow, this picture made my day THANKS!!!
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if they can't get a 3rd or better it's not worth a trade...What backup QB or draftee could learn the system and actually play day one if weeden were to get hurt? We would probably have to use our 2nd round pick on a damn backup, because the browns think everyone is gunning for backup QBs and starters.
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If the Browns trade McCoy it will be because they know that they have screwed him over royally and that they owe him the opportunity to be able to do something with a team that is capable of utilizing his skills....and it will be a recognition that their coaching staff is not competent enough to utilize his skills.
And by the way, there is no telling if they are competent enough to utilize BW's skills either.
Hopefully they will fucking wise up and get a good receiver and a good RT to go along with BW and TR...because without those elements the Browns offense will continue to be trying to row upstream without a paddle.
If the Browns trade McCoy it will be because they know that they have screwed him over royally and that they owe him the opportunity to be able to do something with a team that is capable of utilizing his skills....and it will be a recognition that their coaching staff is not competent enough to utilize his skills.
And by the way, there is no telling if they are competent enough to utilize BW's skills either.
Hopefully they will fucking wise up and get a good receiver and a good RT to go along with BW and TR...because without those elements the Browns offense will continue to be trying to row upstream without a paddle.
Spot on, Gip...
In retrospect after all H&H's claims of RG3 pursuit, should have seen all the follow up comments on Colt's worth for what they were... the dreaded vote of confidence...
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What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
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What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
His daddy dissed them publicly. Whether he was right to do it or not, wtf do you expect. Tell you what, send your dad in Monday morning to work with a camera crew and have him diss your boss in front of everyone, then post it on youtube. If you still have your job I will buy you a 75% off Colt McCoy jersey for the awesome video and the apparent value you obviously have to your company. 99.9999999% of the employees that show up to work with a whiny daddy will get canned......especially if you suck at your job.
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Just announced it on Mike and Mike...
McCoy is going to most likely be traded today or tomorrow.
What are we going to get for him?
It is now officially the Brandon 'Smoke' Weeden Era.
Just announced it on Mike and Mike...
McCoy is going to most likely be traded today or tomorrow.
What are we going to get for him?
It is now officially the Brandon 'Smoke' Weeden Era.
If they trade him now it would be a HUGE mistake, they will get a 5 or 7 pick at best, We have an unproven rookie as the alternative, My suggestion is keep them both this year and trade him next year instead of a panic trade which provides another fat useless lineman
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What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
Well now league sources are saying the Browns haven't even contacted anyone about trading Colt and that the Colt to Packers rumors were false. So who the hell knows. I agree with what Tim H said on ESPN today. Might as well just keep him and develop him and drop either Wallace or Lewis. Colt isn't the kind of guy who is going to take it personal and shun Weeden and will in fact work his ass off to do the best he can in this position and try to be the best back up he can be until he either gets a chance with another team in FA or something terrible happens to Weeden and he needs to step in. What we would get via trade might not be worth getting rid of someone a lot of teams would consider at the very least a good back up and field manager. Might as well drop Wallace, he isn't going to help out Weeden anyway.
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What ever happened to opening it up for competition? What ever happened to giving the rookie a year to learn the system. Perhaps bring him in by game 10 if the playoffs look doubtful. What's wrong with Colt on the bench as a back-up? I think we're giving up on Colt too quickly - but that's my opinion. I agree with people who are saying, let's dump the Seneca contract instead.
His daddy dissed them publicly. Whether he was right to do it or not, wtf do you expect. Tell you what, send your dad in Monday morning to work with a camera crew and have him diss your boss in front of everyone, then post it on youtube. If you still have your job I will buy you a 75% off Colt McCoy jersey for the awesome video and the apparent value you obviously have to your company. 99.9999999% of the employees that show up to work with a whiny daddy will get canned......especially if you suck at your job.
His daddy dissed them publicly. Whether he was right to do it or not, wtf do you expect. Tell you what, send your dad in Monday morning to work with a camera crew and have him diss your boss in front of everyone, then post it on youtube. If you still have your job I will buy you a 75% off Colt McCoy jersey for the awesome video and the apparent value you obviously have to your company. 99.9999999% of the employees that show up to work with a whiny daddy will get canned......especially if you suck at your job.
And the fact that "the daddy" was 100% correct on his assessment of the situation is irrelevent?
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If we were planning on trading Colt, then why they hell didn't we try harder to get one of the actual GOOD Qb's in the draft?
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His daddy dissed them publicly. Whether he was right to do it or not, wtf do you expect. Tell you what, send your dad in Monday morning to work with a camera crew and have him diss your boss in front of everyone, then post it on youtube. If you still have your job I will buy you a 75% off Colt McCoy jersey for the awesome video and the apparent value you obviously have to your company. 99.9999999% of the employees that show up to work with a whiny daddy will get canned......especially if you suck at your job.
And the fact that "the daddy" was 100% correct on his assessment of the situation is irrelevent?
And the fact that "the daddy" was 100% correct on his assessment of the situation is irrelevent?
the fact that daddy was even involved to protect his poor little boy should tell you all you need to know.
this kids supposed to be our starting QB, yet his daddy still has to come to his rescue? really?
oh poor colt....i guess it really is the teams fault he didn't persevere thru adversity. blame everyone else but the kid who was a late third round pick most people thought was a backup anyway.
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If we were planning on trading Colt, then why they hell didn't we try harder to get one of the actual GOOD Qb's in the draft?
Chickenwang said:
If we were planning on trading Colt, then why they hell didn't we try harder to get one of the actual GOOD Qb's in the draft?
Have you even watched Weeden throw the ball? He has the arm of Derrick Horseballs Anderson except he's is more accurate and mature. The guy has an absolute cannon and pinpoint accuracy. I heard he completed around 70% of his passes in college.. too lazy this morning to verify that stat. You will happily eat crow on this one.
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And the fact that "the daddy" was 100% correct on his assessment of the situation is irrelevent?
the fact that daddy was even involved to protect his poor little boy should tell you all you need to know.
this kids supposed to be our starting QB, yet his daddy still has to come to his rescue? really?
oh poor colt....i guess it really is the teams fault he didn't persevere thru adversity. blame everyone else but the kid who was a late third round pick most people thought was a backup anyway.
the fact that daddy was even involved to protect his poor little boy should tell you all you need to know.
this kids supposed to be our starting QB, yet his daddy still has to come to his rescue? really?
oh poor colt....i guess it really is the teams fault he didn't persevere thru adversity. blame everyone else but the kid who was a late third round pick most people thought was a backup anyway.
C'mon man. Our coaching staff/ training staff completely dropped the ball and put Colt into a potentially life altering situation due to incompetence. I'm not a doctor and could tell he had a concussion on TV just by how glassy his eyes were. You're basically giving Colt's dad shit for being concerned about his son's health. If you're going to give him shit it should be for not flying up to Cleveland and smacking Shumur around for yet another bone headed call.
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sure they did. completely mis-handled that situation....and colts dad made it worse by piling on, because he completely mis-handled the situation as well.
the point, is just that colt is owed nothing. this idea that every QB gets 3 years no matter how god awful they look on the field is ridiculous. colts a good kid, will make a great man someday. whats done is done tho, and im not gonna have any more remorse for the kid than i did for frye, quinn, DA, dorsey, or any of the other marginally talented QB's that failed here. show some competence and you may get another shot. but the deer in headlights look doesn't buy you another year, or anymore favors.
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And the fact that "the daddy" was 100% correct on his assessment of the situation is irrelevent?
the fact that daddy was even involved to protect his poor little boy should tell you all you need to know.
this kids supposed to be our starting QB, yet his daddy still has to come to his rescue? really?
oh poor colt....i guess it really is the teams fault he didn't persevere thru adversity. blame everyone else but the kid who was a late third round pick most people thought was a backup anyway.
the fact that daddy was even involved to protect his poor little boy should tell you all you need to know.
this kids supposed to be our starting QB, yet his daddy still has to come to his rescue? really?
Obviously, you are not a father or you would not make such a dumb statement..
oh poor colt....i guess it really is the teams fault he didn't persevere thru adversity. blame everyone else but the kid who was a late third round pick most people thought was a backup anyway.
Colt gets the blame for what Colt is responsible for: at times not throwing the ball perfectly, or finding the open receiver etc. The team gets the blame for all the things the team is to blame for: putting a piss poor product on the field around Colt...mishandling him....hiring a piss poor coach...mishandling his concussion issue. The problem seems however that the team wants to blame Colt for the things they are responsible for as well as the thing he was responsible for.
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sure they did. completely mis-handled that situation....and colts dad made it worse by piling on, because he completely mis-handled the situation as well.
the point, is just that colt is owed nothing. this idea that every QB gets 3 years no matter how god awful they look on the field is ridiculous. colts a good kid, will make a great man someday. whats done is done tho, and im not gonna have any more remorse for the kid than i did for frye, quinn, DA, dorsey, or any of the other marginally talented QB's that failed here. show some competence and you may get another shot. but the deer in headlights look doesn't buy you another year, or anymore favors.
sure they did. completely mis-handled that situation....and colts dad made it worse by piling on, because he completely mis-handled the situation as well.
the point, is just that colt is owed nothing. this idea that every QB gets 3 years no matter how god awful they look on the field is ridiculous. colts a good kid, will make a great man someday. whats done is done tho, and im not gonna have any more remorse for the kid than i did for frye, quinn, DA, dorsey, or any of the other marginally talented QB's that failed here. show some competence and you may get another shot. but the deer in headlights look doesn't buy you another year, or anymore favors.
Odd that all those QBs were failures. Maybe there is more to it than just the failures of the QBs.
Add to the list: Tim Couch, Kelly Holcomb, Trent Dilfer, Jeff Garcia.
God knows that it is entirely possible that the Big Weed could easily join that list....in fact...almost predictable. Hopefully not.
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how are they blaming colt? by finding his replacement?
dont get me wrong gipper....i was railing about these idiots when you still believed they were good hires. but youre clearly trying pretty hard to find things to give them shit about.
how is colt not responsible for the offensive production? he's the general...the QB, the guy who touches the ball every play thats not a center. he's a member of that piss-poor product you want to blame on the team, he's not exclusive of that issue. its a matter of perspective....was the QB given no weapons, or were the weapons deprived of a QB? so sorry, you can't blame people for a subjective opinion.
if you think the team should be built before the QB, thats a valid opinion. the common theme in your post is that colt struggled because of other peoples faults or mistakes. in a nutshell, thats called being an apologist. despite all the things going on around colt, he could have put that all to bed by not looking so hopeless out there. whereas, you wanna see a guy that wasn't given an idea situation to succeed, i see a guy that folds like a lawnchair when faced with adversity, a guy that doesn't have the tools right now to overcome his shortcomings physically. this is the first time in colts life he's had to deal with losing/adversity, and its not going well.
blame who ever you want....but its the right move whether colt was mis-managed or not. we had one of the worst offenses last year, and colt was a large part of that.
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how are they blaming colt? by finding his replacement?
dont get me wrong gipper....i was railing about these idiots when you still believed they were good hires. but youre clearly trying pretty hard to find things to give them shit about.
how is colt not responsible for the offensive production? he's the general...the QB, the guy who touches the ball every play thats not a center. he's a member of that piss-poor product you want to blame on the team, he's not exclusive of that issue. its a matter of perspective....was the QB given no weapons, or were the weapons deprived of a QB? so sorry, you can't blame people for a subjective opinion.
if you think the team should be built before the QB, thats a valid opinion. the common theme in your post is that colt struggled because of other peoples faults or mistakes. in a nutshell, thats called being an apologist. despite all the things going on around colt, he could have put that all to bed by not looking so hopeless out there. whereas, you wanna see a guy that wasn't given an idea situation to succeed, i see a guy that folds like a lawnchair when faced with adversity, a guy that doesn't have the tools right now to overcome his shortcomings physically. this is the first time in colts life he's had to deal with losing/adversity, and its not going well.
blame who ever you want....but its the right move whether colt was mis-managed or not. we had one of the worst offenses last year, and colt was a large part of that.
how are they blaming colt? by finding his replacement?
dont get me wrong gipper....i was railing about these idiots when you still believed they were good hires. but youre clearly trying pretty hard to find things to give them shit about.
I am not trying hard at all. I am falling over things that are in my way to give them shit about. I can't avoid the things that are obstacles that are the result of their blundering
how is colt not responsible for the offensive production? he's the general...the QB, the guy who touches the ball every play thats not a center. he's a member of that piss-poor product you want to blame on the team, he's not exclusive of that issue. its a matter of perspective....was the QB given no weapons, or were the weapons deprived of a QB? so sorry, you can't blame people for a subjective opinion.
if you think the team should be built before the QB, thats a valid opinion. the common theme in your post is that colt struggled because of other peoples faults or mistakes. in a nutshell, thats called being an apologist. despite all the things going on around colt, he could have put that all to bed by not looking so hopeless out there. whereas, you wanna see a guy that wasn't given an idea situation to succeed, i see a guy that folds like a lawnchair when faced with adversity, a guy that doesn't have the tools right now to overcome his shortcomings physically. this is the first time in colts life he's had to deal with losing/adversity, and its not going well.
blame who ever you want....but its the right move whether colt was mis-managed or not. we had one of the worst offenses last year, and colt was a large part of that.
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