But Who Will Weeden Throw To?
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The haul next year doesn't seem to be anything like this year.
The haul next year doesn't seem to be anything like this year.
Actually after Floyd this draft was a class with alot of 2-4 round talent at WR. I wouldn't call Hill or the kid from Baylor #1 WRs which is what we MAY need. Lots of complimentary WRs, which is what we have to some extent.
And This list left off probably the best overall WR talent - the kid from USC forget his name but the guy caught over 100 passes last year. Is the list above just Seniors?
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The haul next year doesn't seem to be anything like this year.
Actually after Floyd this draft was a class with alot of 2-4 round talent at WR. I wouldn't call Hill or the kid from Baylor #1 WRs which is what we MAY need. Lots of complimentary WRs, which is what we have to some extent.
And This list left off probably the best overall WR talent - the kid from USC forget his name but the guy caught over 100 passes last year. Is the list above just Seniors?
Actually after Floyd this draft was a class with alot of 2-4 round talent at WR. I wouldn't call Hill or the kid from Baylor #1 WRs which is what we MAY need. Lots of complimentary WRs, which is what we have to some extent.
And This list left off probably the best overall WR talent - the kid from USC forget his name but the guy caught over 100 passes last year. Is the list above just Seniors?
Yes, it appears to be just Seniors. So, its true, maybe the best that will be available are not actually on that list.
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The haul next year doesn't seem to be anything like this year.
Actually after Floyd this draft was a class with alot of 2-4 round talent at WR. I wouldn't call Hill or the kid from Baylor #1 WRs which is what we MAY need. Lots of complimentary WRs, which is what we have to some extent.
And This list left off probably the best overall WR talent - the kid from USC forget his name but the guy caught over 100 passes last year. Is the list above just Seniors?
Actually after Floyd this draft was a class with alot of 2-4 round talent at WR. I wouldn't call Hill or the kid from Baylor #1 WRs which is what we MAY need. Lots of complimentary WRs, which is what we have to some extent.
And This list left off probably the best overall WR talent - the kid from USC forget his name but the guy caught over 100 passes last year. Is the list above just Seniors?
Outside of Kendall Wright, this draft was full of good size receivers with good speed, though.
Jeffery, Randle, Broyles, Hill, Floyd, Blackmon- all bigger receivers with decent to above average speed and above average catching ability.
I just feel that the upside seems to be a lot higher in this group of receivers compared to those coming out next season thus far.
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Uh oh, an NFL.com writer says we had a bad draft before even one of them buckles their chin-strap.........Might as well sell the team, and force em out of Cleveland.
Yes, I tend to agree to some extent. Those NFL dot com writers seem to often be grasping for straws in the off season, as they desperately try to write about football when there is no football! lol!Uh oh, an NFL.com writer says we had a bad draft before even one of them buckles their chin-strap.........Might as well sell the team, and force em out of Cleveland.
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With an improved line, and a strong arm, I think we will be fine. This dude didn't see McCoy play at the end of the season apparently.
Huh? McCoy didn't play, "at the end of the season."With an improved line, and a strong arm, I think we will be fine. This dude didn't see McCoy play at the end of the season apparently.
After CLE lost in weeks 12, 13, and 14, McCoy didn't dress for weeks 15, 16, and 17.
Are you talking about Mike McCoy of the Toronto Blue Jays?
He had a shitty season too and got sent down to AAA.
Maybe he is talking about Gerald McCoy, Defensive Tackle at Tampa?
He had a shitty season too, and didn't play at all ofter week 9.
None of the McCoy's in pro sports did well last season.
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Too much concern here.
1. Richardson makes a D respect the run.
2. Richardson is a nice option out of the back field through the air- now your making these OLB respect the flats.
3. Weeden can challenge the whole field Safties have to give a cushion
(2 and 3 make guys like Little and Cribbs dangerous- turn the intermediate pass game into longer gains now- catch and run (both are excellent at it).
4. Schwartz and our young oline is arguably the best unit we've had in 20 years.
5. Little sat out a year- now comes into year 2 (usually breakout year for WRs) after doing a respectable job.
6. Overall youth with the guys mentioned.
7. Evan Moore when utilized correctly is a great option. Ben Watson is proven.
We may still need a True #1 WR after this season but there are some nice pieces and a better set-up now for success than we had this past December.
Too much concern here.
1. Richardson makes a D respect the run.
2. Richardson is a nice option out of the back field through the air- now your making these OLB respect the flats.
3. Weeden can challenge the whole field Safties have to give a cushion
(2 and 3 make guys like Little and Cribbs dangerous- turn the intermediate pass game into longer gains now- catch and run (both are excellent at it).
4. Schwartz and our young oline is arguably the best unit we've had in 20 years.
5. Little sat out a year- now comes into year 2 (usually breakout year for WRs) after doing a respectable job.
6. Overall youth with the guys mentioned.
7. Evan Moore when utilized correctly is a great option. Ben Watson is proven.
We may still need a True #1 WR after this season but there are some nice pieces and a better set-up now for success than we had this past December.
I totally agree.
Keep in mind that Richardson is also an excellent blocker & coupled with an improved O-line allows a "non-blocking" TE like Moore to be used more frequently to showcase his pass catching talent.
Mike
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The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
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The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Too much concern here.
1. Richardson makes a D respect the run.
2. Richardson is a nice option out of the back field through the air- now your making these OLB respect the flats.
3. Weeden can challenge the whole field Safties have to give a cushion
(2 and 3 make guys like Little and Cribbs dangerous- turn the intermediate pass game into longer gains now- catch and run (both are excellent at it).
4. Schwartz and our young oline is arguably the best unit we've had in 20 years.
5. Little sat out a year- now comes into year 2 (usually breakout year for WRs) after doing a respectable job.
6. Overall youth with the guys mentioned.
7. Evan Moore when utilized correctly is a great option. Ben Watson is proven.
We may still need a True #1 WR after this season but there are some nice pieces and a better set-up now for success than we had this past December.
True, and if it is such a big deal, then the touts can all start looking at this list. 2013 draft top WR prospects:
Terrance Williams WR 1 Baylor rSr 6-1 190
Cobi Hamilton WR 2 Arkansas Sr 6-3 209
Ryan Swope WR 3 Texas A&M rSr 6-0 206
Tavon Austin WR 4 West Virginia Sr 5-09 176
Tavarres King WR 5 Georgia rSr 6-1 192
Aaron Mellette WR 6 Elon rSr 6-3 214
Keenan Davis WR 7 Iowa Sr 6-2 215
Emory Blake WR 8 Auburn Sr 6-1 197
Quinton Patton WR 9 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-2 195
Theo Riddick WR 10 Notre Dame Sr 5-11 198
Roy Roundtree WR 11 Michigan rSr 6-0 178
Markus Wheaton WR 12 Oregon State Sr 6-0 178
Brice Butler WR 13 San Diego State rSr 6-3 195
Dan Buckner WR 14 Arizona rSr 6-3 220
T.J. Moe WR 15 Missouri Sr 5-11 195
Conner Vernon WR 16 Duke Sr 6-1 195
Chad Bumphis WR 17 Mississippi State Sr 5-10 200
Russell Shepard WR 18 LSU Sr 6-0 185
Erik Highsmith WR 19 North Carolina Sr 6-2 190
Mike Shanahan WR 20 Pittsburgh rSr 6-4 225
I suspect the Redskins already have their sights set on that last guy on the list.
True, and if it is such a big deal, then the touts can all start looking at this list. 2013 draft top WR prospects:
Terrance Williams WR 1 Baylor rSr 6-1 190
Cobi Hamilton WR 2 Arkansas Sr 6-3 209
Ryan Swope WR 3 Texas A&M rSr 6-0 206
Tavon Austin WR 4 West Virginia Sr 5-09 176
Tavarres King WR 5 Georgia rSr 6-1 192
Aaron Mellette WR 6 Elon rSr 6-3 214
Keenan Davis WR 7 Iowa Sr 6-2 215
Emory Blake WR 8 Auburn Sr 6-1 197
Quinton Patton WR 9 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-2 195
Theo Riddick WR 10 Notre Dame Sr 5-11 198
Roy Roundtree WR 11 Michigan rSr 6-0 178
Markus Wheaton WR 12 Oregon State Sr 6-0 178
Brice Butler WR 13 San Diego State rSr 6-3 195
Dan Buckner WR 14 Arizona rSr 6-3 220
T.J. Moe WR 15 Missouri Sr 5-11 195
Conner Vernon WR 16 Duke Sr 6-1 195
Chad Bumphis WR 17 Mississippi State Sr 5-10 200
Russell Shepard WR 18 LSU Sr 6-0 185
Erik Highsmith WR 19 North Carolina Sr 6-2 190
Mike Shanahan WR 20 Pittsburgh rSr 6-4 225
I suspect the Redskins already have their sights set on that last guy on the list.
No Robinson?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Ghoolie telling people to relax, am i in the right place?
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I could tell ya who weedy will throw the ball to and often but instead i will let you guys guess with the only clue being DAnderception...
Our only hope of winning a few games this year is if richardson can somehow break through and pound the ball against stacked defense after stacked defense..
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Ghoolie telling people to relax, am i in the right place?
Ghoolie telling people to relax, am i in the right place?
I know man, the past couple weeks I've been freaking out.
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The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
Homotron said:
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
The fact that he has speed alone makes him a canidate to start. because I doubt Massaqui will make the squad...all you really have is Mitchell whose hurt all the damn time...So figure Our starting four will be Little,Cribbs,Norwood and Benjamin. or I figure Massaquoi maybe sticks till about mid season as they pepper in Benjamin.....
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The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
Homotron said:
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
Contribute where? KR, PR? The guy's a smurf. The days of Dino Hall are over. Benjamin was brought in for one reason- to increase team speed. If he can break press coverage, They'll just have him run go routes the entire game.
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i'm over the draft drama so can i go into 'film' mode?
QB roll right pitch off to TR. 4yds. weeden goes back into the pocket and hits little on a slant for 15 yds. defense adjustes and take away running game by stacking 6 guyz on the line and making richardson irrelevant. weeden on his back going on an air trip to nebraska or wherever the fuck this redneck is from.
let's just get this politically fired draft a chance so we can get back to talking football.
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King Weeden Lives --- Hopefully you leave when he falls flat on his face
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The best WR's in football last year who weren't drafted are coming out as underclassmen - Rob Woods at USC, Keenan Allen at Cal, Marquess Wilson at Washington State. All would look good catching from Weeden.
This year's Browns WR are going to be underrated but perhaps with the speedster on the outside, there will be space. Hope he can run lots of go routes, with the occasional double move.
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
Homotron said:
What has made you think Travis Benjamin is even going to see the field? He'll be a special teams contributor but I'll be surprised if he finds his way in to your starting rotation. Shocked even.
That's because you don't know football.
Listen....All About the Benjamin needs only to listen to Bill Cosby: "You, go long" to contribute.
(or maybe he will do an Eric Metcalf/Josh Cribbs thing and just return kicks for TDs. Ain't nothing wrong with that.)
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True, and if it is such a big deal, then the touts can all start looking at this list. 2013 draft top WR prospects:
Terrance Williams WR 1 Baylor rSr 6-1 190
Cobi Hamilton WR 2 Arkansas Sr 6-3 209
Ryan Swope WR 3 Texas A&M rSr 6-0 206
Tavon Austin WR 4 West Virginia Sr 5-09 176
Tavarres King WR 5 Georgia rSr 6-1 192
Aaron Mellette WR 6 Elon rSr 6-3 214
Keenan Davis WR 7 Iowa Sr 6-2 215
Emory Blake WR 8 Auburn Sr 6-1 197
Quinton Patton WR 9 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-2 195
Theo Riddick WR 10 Notre Dame Sr 5-11 198
Roy Roundtree WR 11 Michigan rSr 6-0 178
Markus Wheaton WR 12 Oregon State Sr 6-0 178
Brice Butler WR 13 San Diego State rSr 6-3 195
Dan Buckner WR 14 Arizona rSr 6-3 220
T.J. Moe WR 15 Missouri Sr 5-11 195
Conner Vernon WR 16 Duke Sr 6-1 195
Chad Bumphis WR 17 Mississippi State Sr 5-10 200
Russell Shepard WR 18 LSU Sr 6-0 185
Erik Highsmith WR 19 North Carolina Sr 6-2 190
Mike Shanahan WR 20 Pittsburgh rSr 6-4 225
I suspect the Redskins already have their sights set on that last guy on the list.
No Robinson?
No Robinson?
This was CBS Sports list. I don't know who Robinson is, but I suspect he is a Michigan player since that question came from you. Which tells me one of two things: either "Robinson" is an underclassman, thus not listed here, or you are way over rating him.
....err, or, are you talking about Dennard Robinson? I don't think he will be listed with the WR prospects.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Now think about it, one of the things I have wanted is skill players. Shit, we got two of the very best in a QB and a RB in the first round? How the hell can that not excite you?
The pin prick to this balloon could be the totally unimaginitive offense that Shurmur runs....or ran. Lets hope the team has improved in this area as well. Maybe Childress will help.
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@king-ghoolie-lives said:
Your wrong.
If teams stack the line, their will walk away with a sore asshole. Again, the footspeed difference between the fastest and slowest WRs in teh league is miniscule. These guys aren't competing in a footrace, PLUS, all the speed trials are done, to my understanding without full gear. I always found this to be meaningless, like running a race horse with no jockey, maybe?
If teams are stacking the line and jamming the short stuff, it only takes a few pump fakes here and there to give a crafty WR the break on a pattern. Now, if you want to consider a slower WR, say a 4.4 4o guy, against a 4.15 DB, there isn't enough speed difference that the DB who bites on a short pass only to find the WR going deeper on him,
is going to recover in time to stop a quickly released 10 - 15 - 20 yard pass.
Colt just didn't have that ability and it killed our offense. Those days are gone, done, fini. It the Steelers want to stack the line and play badass, you mark my words, they are going to get toasted, and once they are toasted and bakc off, Richardson will ram his helmet down a few throats.
I don't believe our play calling was or is a problem, Personally, I like to see more play action passes on obvious running downs, especially 2nd and 1, when EVERYONE is biting on the handoff, but perhaps that will come as we have a confident and capable QB.
Oh, I think the Browns still need a few things, and a bastard of a WR would be nice, so would a capably FB, and yes, I wish we oculd have the physical qualities of Hillis, I just think his attitude would detract form the new blood and energy. We need a FB who doesn't expect to steal the limelight, especially now that we have a great RB in our backfield again.
I believe the Browns will fuck up a lot of teams. Maybe we won't make the playoffs, but it won't be dull, give away football anymore. I will kiss Stan's wilted, diseased, discolored, dried-up nutsack if this offense isn't a crowd pleaser in 2012.
Ghools has officially gone to the dark side.
McCoy not being able to pump fake killed the offense last year?
Play calling wasnt a problem?
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