Phil Taylor Torn Pec
-
Anyone saying thee strength and conditioning coaches need to be fired are idiots and I would really like to see you guys run a team so I could see the weak ass pussies you put out on the field. Yoga and Tia Chi isn't going to build your strength like weight lifting is. Teams would blow past any team that did their strength conditioning in this way. One fucking guy has a lifting injury, a freak injury that could happen to anyone on any team in this league, and you call for the strength coach to be fired.
I will say it one last time, if you think the strength coach should be fired because of this you obvious don't know enough about weight lifting and strength training in general to even share your opinion on the matter.
-
Zombo said:
ESPN Cleveland confirming torn, surgery, and likely done for the year...
Z
All hale The Sausage King.
-
-
Harry is 100% right.
Yes, Phil needs flexibility. Yes, he needs a full range of motion. Shocking. He should already be doing yoga.
The bottom line is that the motion of the complete flat bench [no plates, no close grip] is exactly one of few athletic motions Phil needs to be very strong in during his work. OL and DL are the only positions in any sport [you could argue that a defenseman in lacrosse needs this as well and that's it] where the requirement of the role is to explode with power with both hands at the same time.
No way exists to "simulate" or to "increase stabilizing muscles" - think about it, the way you stabilize when doing the full strength lift is.. to lift at full strength. If you're lifting at 75%, you're only stabilizing for that 75% weight. High weight flat bench is essential for OL and DL. The argument for decreasing weight is the same argument in support of a back brace during heavy squat -- also a stupid idea, because the entire point of the lift is to increase the legs and all stabilizing muscles as a system, not just one in isolation.
Harry is 100% right.
Yes, Phil needs flexibility. Yes, he needs a full range of motion. Shocking. He should already be doing yoga.
The bottom line is that the motion of the complete flat bench [no plates, no close grip] is exactly one of few athletic motions Phil needs to be very strong in during his work. OL and DL are the only positions in any sport [you could argue that a defenseman in lacrosse needs this as well and that's it] where the requirement of the role is to explode with power with both hands at the same time.
No way exists to "simulate" or to "increase stabilizing muscles" - think about it, the way you stabilize when doing the full strength lift is.. to lift at full strength. If you're lifting at 75%, you're only stabilizing for that 75% weight. High weight flat bench is essential for OL and DL. The argument for decreasing weight is the same argument in support of a back brace during heavy squat -- also a stupid idea, because the entire point of the lift is to increase the legs and all stabilizing muscles as a system, not just one in isolation.
Really? i guess you guys really didn't quite complete your degree in Kinesiology
nearly 100% of these "accidents" can be prevented. If for some reason there is actually a structural abnormality that could cause this then it would have occured at a lot less weight.
2 very simple techniques is to use a bump pad on the par or on their chest to prevent the wieghts from going down to far(hitting the chest with a bar doesn't cause injury)or narrowing your grip...in fact a narrow grip will increase muscle strength and cause less stress on the tendons and fibers.
This is 100% the fault of inproper staff coaching and training. Only if the player went out of his way and told them i don't care i'm going to do it this way and not the right way should the trainer not be held accountable.
I have kids benching over 400 all the time and like i said in 20 years never had a tear...NEVER.
This is not Phil's fault the blame is completely on the training staff. Yoga and stetching do help a little...but muscle fiber injuries like this really only need some blood flowing to get up to optimal levels...15 minutes on a stationary bike is all you need...
also i have been noticing a lot of kids wanting to get ripped so they are lowering their carb loads...NO NO NO...its not about the look but the result...increase your CARB loads before during and after work out...low carb diets lead to a lot of muscle injuries.
-
Harry is 100% right.
Yes, Phil needs flexibility. Yes, he needs a full range of motion. Shocking. He should already be doing yoga.
The bottom line is that the motion of the complete flat bench [no plates, no close grip] is exactly one of few athletic motions Phil needs to be very strong in during his work. OL and DL are the only positions in any sport [you could argue that a defenseman in lacrosse needs this as well and that's it] where the requirement of the role is to explode with power with both hands at the same time.
No way exists to "simulate" or to "increase stabilizing muscles" - think about it, the way you stabilize when doing the full strength lift is.. to lift at full strength. If you're lifting at 75%, you're only stabilizing for that 75% weight. High weight flat bench is essential for OL and DL. The argument for decreasing weight is the same argument in support of a back brace during heavy squat -- also a stupid idea, because the entire point of the lift is to increase the legs and all stabilizing muscles as a system, not just one in isolation.
Really? i guess you guys really didn't quite complete your degree in Kinesiology
nearly 100% of these "accidents" can be prevented. If for some reason there is actually a structural abnormality that could cause this then it would have occured at a lot less weight.
2 very simple techniques is to use a bump pad on the par or on their chest to prevent the wieghts from going down to far(hitting the chest with a bar doesn't cause injury)or narrowing your grip...in fact a narrow grip will increase muscle strength and cause less stress on the tendons and fibers.
This is 100% the fault of inproper staff coaching and training. Only if the player went out of his way and told them i don't care i'm going to do it this way and not the right way should the trainer not be held accountable.
I have kids benching over 400 all the time and like i said in 20 years never had a tear...NEVER.
This is not Phil's fault the blame is completely on the training staff. Yoga and stetching do help a little...but muscle fiber injuries like this really only need some blood flowing to get up to optimal levels...15 minutes on a stationary bike is all you need...
also i have been noticing a lot of kids wanting to get ripped so they are lowering their carb loads...NO NO NO...its not about the look but the result...increase your CARB loads before during and after work out...low carb diets lead to a lot of muscle injuries.
Really? i guess you guys really didn't quite complete your degree in Kinesiology
nearly 100% of these "accidents" can be prevented. If for some reason there is actually a structural abnormality that could cause this then it would have occured at a lot less weight.
2 very simple techniques is to use a bump pad on the par or on their chest to prevent the wieghts from going down to far(hitting the chest with a bar doesn't cause injury)or narrowing your grip...in fact a narrow grip will increase muscle strength and cause less stress on the tendons and fibers.
This is 100% the fault of inproper staff coaching and training. Only if the player went out of his way and told them i don't care i'm going to do it this way and not the right way should the trainer not be held accountable.
I have kids benching over 400 all the time and like i said in 20 years never had a tear...NEVER.
This is not Phil's fault the blame is completely on the training staff. Yoga and stetching do help a little...but muscle fiber injuries like this really only need some blood flowing to get up to optimal levels...15 minutes on a stationary bike is all you need...
also i have been noticing a lot of kids wanting to get ripped so they are lowering their carb loads...NO NO NO...its not about the look but the result...increase your CARB loads before during and after work out...low carb diets lead to a lot of muscle injuries.
As mentioned, yes pump pads or planks will keep the weight from going too far down, but if you need one then you are doing to much weight anyway and that is on the player. The player should know how much weight he can do without letting the weight fall all the way to his chest. Plus as I already mentioned narrow grip works the tricep much more than the chest. The point of bench press from a football standpoint is to work the chest at the very least as equally as you work the tricep if not putting more focus on the chest than the tricep. For this you need a neutral to wide grip to work more of the chest.
-
Fuck weights. Lets just get Herschel Walker as our strength and conditioning coach and stick to push ups and sit ups. He seemed/seems to be doing pretty well with it.
-
All you guys talking about pecs and pumping gives me a certain image of you all:
-
Well this is why we drafted some DL depth. Taylor is most likely better than Hughes or Winn but just think how bad this injury would be if we didn't have either of those guys..
-
Now huges and Winn seem pretty smart picks. If its torn he should be back by Oct-Nov.
Now huges and Winn seem pretty smart picks. If its torn he should be back by Oct-Nov.
He'll be done for the year with that injury. Aaron Smith went down for the year when he tore his.
-
Oh yeah, Daquan Bowers just tore his ACL, wow players can't catch a break lately.
Is Daquan Bowers one of ours? Don't recall that name.
Is Daquan Bowers one of ours? Don't recall that name.
Do you follow football at all Gip? Jesus. He plays for the Bucs and it wasn't his ACL it was his achilles.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Of course we spend all our draft picks on an OLD QB with great linement on the board then something like this happens.
Ray Rice will run all over us this year.
Will it ever end?!
-
Of course we spend all our draft picks on an OLD QB with great linement on the board then something like this happens.
Ray Rice will run all over us this year.
Will it ever end?!
Of course we spend all our draft picks on an OLD QB with great linement on the board then something like this happens.
Ray Rice will run all over us this year.
Will it ever end?!
Yes, if you leave the board that you joined just because you don't like Brandon Weeden.
-
Of course we spend all our draft picks on an OLD QB with great linement on the board then something like this happens.
Ray Rice will run all over us this year.
Will it ever end?!
Of course we spend all our draft picks on an OLD QB with great linement on the board then something like this happens.
Ray Rice will run all over us this year.
Will it ever end?!
We spent one draft pick on a QB, one of multiple draft picks we aquired in a trade. We also drafted 2 DT's for depth which is looking pretty smart right now. The sky isn't falling. Relax.
-
Well, I was worried about this when a lot of us enjoyed the Suggs injury a bit too much........Karma's a bitch, and we don't need any help with injuries, as we seem to have that down real good.
Well, I was worried about this when a lot of us enjoyed the Suggs injury a bit too much........Karma's a bitch, and we don't need any help with injuries, as we seem to have that down real good.
I'm pretty sure Phil Taylor tearing his pectoral muscle isn't karma for the fans not crying that terrel suggs is injured.
Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.
Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.
With your input, this post could be even better 💗
Register Login