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Can a new coach/staff turn Wimbley around

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    If a coach can instill heart, will, determination, and fire...then yes, a coach can turn Wimbley around.

    @dtbh said:

    If a coach can instill heart, will, determination, and fire...then yes, a coach can turn Wimbley around.

    What did this guy ever do to you............................... for you to say shit like that, which is BS.

    He never displayed a lack of heart, will or determination. His teammates laud him for his great work habits and intensity even in practice. He has displayed great character. Guys like McGinest say the kid has what it takes to be a top notch NFL player. I interviewed him for OBR a year ago in the off season and I talked to some teammates about him.

    There may be a question about his productivity or rush skills but you shouldn't print crap that you don't have a clue about.

    If you don't like him as a football player, then that's fine, but dissing him when you don't have a clue about his work habits is crap.

    Not cool man.

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  • I don't care about his work habits in the gym. He has absolutely no fight, and no desire on the field. A guy with his physical ability should not be a finesse player, and it's the reason he's completely fallen off.

    The FIELD DAY a motivator like Cowher would have with him. He'd be a completely different player. Also known as, instilling heart, will, determination, and fire. Has Wimbley EVER shown even an OUNCE of intensity on the field? No. He doesn't belong playing physical AFC North defense.

  • There are two main roles on OLB has: rush the QB and keep contain. Obviously, he didn't get to the QB that much this year. However, many times I saw him blow contain. If he can't do either, then there is definitely a problem. I don't think we have the luxury of giving up on him this soon. Hopefully he can come around with a better scheme, but I am starting to think that some of his shortcomings that have come to light lately are going to hurt us. I hope I am wrong about this.

  • Ive got an Idea, lets do something revoltionary, lets run a 2-6 defense

    _____________FS__________SS__________

    ________________ILB___ILB______________

    CB__________OLB DE NT DE OLB_________CB

    That way Wimbley starts every play with his hand down and drops back into coverage when neccessary, all he would need to do is improve his backpeddal

  • Y YtownBrownsBacker

    @dtbh said:

    If a coach can instill heart, will, determination, and fire...then yes, a coach can turn Wimbley around.

    What did this guy ever do to you............................... for you to say shit like that, which is BS.

    He never displayed a lack of heart, will or determination. His teammates laud him for his great work habits and intensity even in practice. He has displayed great character. Guys like McGinest say the kid has what it takes to be a top notch NFL player. I interviewed him for OBR a year ago in the off season and I talked to some teammates about him.

    There may be a question about his productivity or rush skills but you shouldn't print crap that you don't have a clue about.

    If you don't like him as a football player, then that's fine, but dissing him when you don't have a clue about his work habits is crap.

    Not cool man.

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    What did this guy ever do to you............................... for you to say shit like that, which is BS.

    He never displayed a lack of heart, will or determination. His teammates laud him for his great work habits and intensity even in practice. He has displayed great character. Guys like McGinest say the kid has what it takes to be a top notch NFL player. I interviewed him for OBR a year ago in the off season and I talked to some teammates about him.

    There may be a question about his productivity or rush skills but you shouldn't print crap that you don't have a clue about.

    If you don't like him as a football player, then that's fine, but dissing him when you don't have a clue about his work habits is crap.

    Not cool man.

    What crawled up your ass and died?

    Wimbley's problem has to do with the emotional side of his game, not the technical side. He isn't motivated, driven or focused.

    Hey Ytown...... aren't you the same goofball who did "research" with guys who went to school with me when I was in 9th grade in order to convince yourself that I wasn't a badass, which unfortunately for you, I am?

    You also told us that you personally knew Coach Angelo, of Chaney High School Heritage, assistant coach at Chicago, who PROMISED that romeo Crennel was a focused, knowledgable, competent coach who would really whip the Browns into shape?

    ROTFLMAO!

    Hey peeps, this guy had some idiots who graduated Ursuline HS who didn't know crap about me, telling him I was BOTH a piano player AND that I was a geek playing in the Ursuline High School Marching Band. Now you see what a Badass Ghoolie really is? I am THE ONLY sumbitch EVER to play in a marching band with an upright piano strapped to my chest.

    ROTFLMAO @ this YTowns aka Oldawg of Nav's board. Dude, if ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE knows less about football and life than you do, I swear to all things important that I have never encountered them. You are in a class by yourself and your buddy Angelo? Well maybe while he inhaled too much powder while folding the players jockstraps.

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    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    What did this guy ever do to you............................... for you to say shit like that, which is BS.

    He never displayed a lack of heart, will or determination. His teammates laud him for his great work habits and intensity even in practice. He has displayed great character. Guys like McGinest say the kid has what it takes to be a top notch NFL player. I interviewed him for OBR a year ago in the off season and I talked to some teammates about him.

    There may be a question about his productivity or rush skills but you shouldn't print crap that you don't have a clue about.

    If you don't like him as a football player, then that's fine, but dissing him when you don't have a clue about his work habits is crap.

    Not cool man.

    What crawled up your ass and died?

    Wimbley's problem has to do with the emotional side of his game, not the technical side. He isn't motivated, driven or focused.

    Hey Ytown...... aren't you the same goofball who did "research" with guys who went to school with me when I was in 9th grade in order to convince yourself that I wasn't a badass, which unfortunately for you, I am?

    You also told us that you personally knew Coach Angelo, of Chaney High School Heritage, assistant coach at Chicago, who PROMISED that romeo Crennel was a focused, knowledgable, competent coach who would really whip the Browns into shape?

    ROTFLMAO!

    Hey peeps, this guy had some idiots who graduated Ursuline HS who didn't know crap about me, telling him I was BOTH a piano player AND that I was a geek playing in the Ursuline High School Marching Band. Now you see what a Badass Ghoolie really is? I am THE ONLY sumbitch EVER to play in a marching band with an upright piano strapped to my chest.

    ROTFLMAO @ this YTowns aka Oldawg of Nav's board. Dude, if ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE knows less about football and life than you do, I swear to all things important that I have never encountered them. You are in a class by yourself and your buddy Angelo? Well maybe while he inhaled too much powder while folding the players jockstraps.

    @ghoolie said:

    What crawled up your ass and died?

    Wimbley's problem has to do with the emotional side of his game, not the technical side. He isn't motivated, driven or focused.

    Hey Ytown...... aren't you the same goofball who did "research" with guys who went to school with me when I was in 9th grade in order to convince yourself that I wasn't a badass, which unfortunately for you, I am?

    You also told us that you personally knew Coach Angelo, of Chaney High School Heritage, assistant coach at Chicago, who PROMISED that romeo Crennel was a focused, knowledgable, competent coach who would really whip the Browns into shape?

    ROTFLMAO!

    Hey peeps, this guy had some idiots who graduated Ursuline HS who didn't know crap about me, telling him I was BOTH a piano player AND that I was a geek playing in the Ursuline High School Marching Band. Now you see what a Badass Ghoolie really is? I am THE ONLY sumbitch EVER to play in a marching band with an upright piano strapped to my chest.

    ROTFLMAO @ this YTowns aka Oldawg of Nav's board. Dude, if ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE knows less about football and life than you do, I swear to all things important that I have never encountered them. You are in a class by yourself and your buddy Angelo? Well maybe while he inhaled too much powder while folding the players jockstraps.

    Don't flatter yourself tommy the band boy. Nobody really cares about your childhood or how big an asshole you were and have become. You aren't worth my time. LMFAO

  • S Sony Reed

    Masters said:

    Well, there is good coaching and bad coaching, meaning what CLE's staff would have been giving him (I lean to the later). Where else outside the NFL? I doubt he was taught a lot of moves a LB as a DE in college, where he could get away with natural ability.

    I agree not a lot of guys develop into great pass rushers. But then again, guys don't get 11 sacks as a rookie by accident. Then again, look at James Harrison for PIT. Took him 4-5 years to develop. Though he is inside and not outside.

    I am not holding my breath for it to happen, or even saying it will happen. But I would like to see what happens with a coaching staff change before I pass final judgement.

    He has been solid in coverage this past year, and spent more time there than trying to get to the QB. His run stopping has not improved much though.

    I think he has a long way to go in a lot of posters/fans eyes. I am just not ready to write him off just yet.

    James Harrison plays right outside linebacker, Pitts inside backers are James Farrior and Larry Foote, when they go nickle Timmons replaces Foote.

    Wimbley has one move and the league has seen enough tape on him to figure him out

    Best thing the Browns could do is package Wimbley with Anderson or Winslow and get some extra picks

    @sony-reed said:

    James Harrison plays right outside linebacker, Pitts inside backers are James Farrior and Larry Foote, when they go nickle Timmons replaces Foote.

    Wimbley has one move and the league has seen enough tape on him to figure him out

    Best thing the Browns could do is package Wimbley with Anderson or Winslow and get some extra picks

    Watch the games, and you will see that Larry Foote is the inside LB or just ask a Steeler fan

    Harrison plays right outside linebacker..................Genius

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    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    What did this guy ever do to you............................... for you to say shit like that, which is BS.

    He never displayed a lack of heart, will or determination. His teammates laud him for his great work habits and intensity even in practice. He has displayed great character. Guys like McGinest say the kid has what it takes to be a top notch NFL player. I interviewed him for OBR a year ago in the off season and I talked to some teammates about him.

    There may be a question about his productivity or rush skills but you shouldn't print crap that you don't have a clue about.

    If you don't like him as a football player, then that's fine, but dissing him when you don't have a clue about his work habits is crap.

    Not cool man.

    What crawled up your ass and died?

    Wimbley's problem has to do with the emotional side of his game, not the technical side. He isn't motivated, driven or focused.

    Hey Ytown...... aren't you the same goofball who did "research" with guys who went to school with me when I was in 9th grade in order to convince yourself that I wasn't a badass, which unfortunately for you, I am?

    You also told us that you personally knew Coach Angelo, of Chaney High School Heritage, assistant coach at Chicago, who PROMISED that romeo Crennel was a focused, knowledgable, competent coach who would really whip the Browns into shape?

    ROTFLMAO!

    Hey peeps, this guy had some idiots who graduated Ursuline HS who didn't know crap about me, telling him I was BOTH a piano player AND that I was a geek playing in the Ursuline High School Marching Band. Now you see what a Badass Ghoolie really is? I am THE ONLY sumbitch EVER to play in a marching band with an upright piano strapped to my chest.

    ROTFLMAO @ this YTowns aka Oldawg of Nav's board. Dude, if ANYONE, and I do mean ANYONE knows less about football and life than you do, I swear to all things important that I have never encountered them. You are in a class by yourself and your buddy Angelo? Well maybe while he inhaled too much powder while folding the players jockstraps.

    @ghoolie said:

    What crawled up your ass and died?

    Wimbley's problem has to do with the emotional side of his game, not the technical side. He isn't motivated, driven or focused.

    Says the man who admittedly doesn't watch most of the game.

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    @sony-reed said:

    James Harrison plays right outside linebacker, Pitts inside backers are James Farrior and Larry Foote, when they go nickle Timmons replaces Foote.

    James Harrison plays RILB, not outside. Woodley and Foote are on the outside. Basically Harrison is their Ray Lewis, back when BALT used to rush Lewis more.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/dept...dvOgqjnDxqT2bYF

    Masters said:

    James Harrison plays RILB, not outside. Woodley and Foote are on the outside. Basically Harrison is their Ray Lewis, back when BALT used to rush Lewis more.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/dept...dvOgqjnDxqT2bYF

    For whatever reason Yahoo Sports depth charts always mess up right outside and inside LB's with the 3-4 teams...they have Wimbley as an RILB and Jackson as a ROLB ...same with Dallas and Ware and most if not all 3-4 teams...look at all the 3-4 teams on there...I admit I was mistaken too after using Yahoo's charts...

    -Jeff-
  • T titleist585

    Masters said:

    James Harrison plays RILB, not outside. Woodley and Foote are on the outside. Basically Harrison is their Ray Lewis, back when BALT used to rush Lewis more.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/dept...dvOgqjnDxqT2bYF

    For whatever reason Yahoo Sports depth charts always mess up right outside and inside LB's with the 3-4 teams...they have Wimbley as an RILB and Jackson as a ROLB ...same with Dallas and Ware and most if not all 3-4 teams...look at all the 3-4 teams on there...I admit I was mistaken too after using Yahoo's charts...

    @titleist585 said:

    For whatever reason Yahoo Sports depth charts always mess up right outside and inside LB's with the 3-4 teams...they have Wimbley as an RILB and Jackson as a ROLB ...same with Dallas and Ware and most if not all 3-4 teams...look at all the 3-4 teams on there...I admit I was mistaken too after using Yahoo's charts...

    Thanks for the tip about Yahoo on their depth charts for 3-4 teams.

    I have seen Harrison all over the place like NE used to do with Teddy Bruschci (sp?) and Vrebal. I presumed that Yahoo had his natural starting position correct. Damn Yahoo!

  • We hardly ever used Wimbley as anything but a simple pass rusher. Our stupid system didn't allow us to try and move him around. One hand down outside rush....that was it. When did ok dropping into coverage so why not move him around more to confuse the offense. He has ability. We didn't even try to get more out of him. I'm not saying he can or will be turned into an awesome OLB but I'm not saying he won't either. We need a more sophisticated system. (like balt.)

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