Jim Brown Speaks Out On Holmgren/richardson
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Bitter, party of one, your table is ready............
I think he makes some valid points.
I never felt Richardson was really especially "elite", even after all the hype ESPN blew in our faces. Hes a good back, dont get me wrong. He's a good back from a great college team.His highlights were more often than not him trucking a cornerback or taking advantage of the weight differential between him and his would be tacklers. He doesn't have extraordinary speed or extraordinary moves.
He simply pounds people, which is praise worthy but also scary.
He won't be able to pound through as many people as he did in college. When that fails, what else does he have to rely on? He's been caught from behind numerous times on his highlights. The speed of the defense will only get faster.
I'm glad we're adding "playmakers", really I am. But I don't think this guy will be as stellar as some are claiming. Nor do I believe he'll have as much of an impact as some believe. He'll be solid, and that's an improvement over years past, but inducted into the HOF this guy will not be.
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What a bitter, old, stupid fool Jim Brown is.
I quit reading his stupid crap halfway through.
blech.
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What a bitter, old, stupid fool Jim Brown is.
I quit reading his stupid crap halfway through.
blech.
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Mr Brown,
I loved watching you run the football, but sometimes it's best to take the classy posture of sitting back, saying nothing, & letting this young man build his reputation/legacy as you did, on the field of play.
We'll see how "ordinary" TR performs.....THEN we will be able to intelligently comment on his ACTUAL accomplishments. I have my own thoughts & they're not of his being ordinary.
Mike
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Careful. He might track you down and throw you off a balcony and/or rape you. Ernie
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bah. He's a really, really old dirtbag crank who isn't smart enough to beat a pair of three's in poker.
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Mr Brown,
I loved watching you run the football, but sometimes it's best to take the classy posture of sitting back, saying nothing, & letting this young man build his reputation/legacy as you did, on the field of play.
We'll see how "ordinary" TR performs.....THEN we will be able to intelligently comment on his ACTUAL accomplishments. I have my own thoughts & they're not of his being ordinary.
Mike
Mr Brown,
I loved watching you run the football, but sometimes it's best to take the classy posture of sitting back, saying nothing, & letting this young man build his reputation/legacy as you did, on the field of play.
We'll see how "ordinary" TR performs.....THEN we will be able to intelligently comment on his ACTUAL accomplishments. I have my own thoughts & they're not of his being ordinary.
Mike
I agree. However- to justify his draft status and picks we gave up (and I've said this all along)- Richardson had better be more than just "pretty good". He had better be Ladanian Tomlinson good. I might cut him a break, and say top 10 all time. And like Jim Brown- I don't see it. I hope he proves both of us wrong.
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If Jim Brown had any class, he would just keep his mouth shut. Let's see what the kid has before we start poking him. He hasn't even run the ball in a game that counts yet.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Jim has always had strong opionions but I note from my own family the older people get the more those opinions go off base and get delivered with an agenda!
This recent interview is a softer version of what he said last month but all the same isn't totally objective. And there has to be bitterness. We'll get out first view of who's right in 107 days.
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Mr Brown,
I loved watching you run the football, but sometimes it's best to take the classy posture of sitting back, saying nothing, & letting this young man build his reputation/legacy as you did, on the field of play.
We'll see how "ordinary" TR performs.....THEN we will be able to intelligently comment on his ACTUAL accomplishments. I have my own thoughts & they're not of his being ordinary.
Mike
I agree. However- to justify his draft status and picks we gave up (and I've said this all along)- Richardson had better be more than just "pretty good". He had better be Ladanian Tomlinson good. I might cut him a break, and say top 10 all time. And like Jim Brown- I don't see it. I hope he proves both of us wrong.
I agree. However- to justify his draft status and picks we gave up (and I've said this all along)- Richardson had better be more than just "pretty good". He had better be Ladanian Tomlinson good. I might cut him a break, and say top 10 all time. And like Jim Brown- I don't see it. I hope he proves both of us wrong.
So you expect every top 5 pick to be top 10 all time among their position or just in this case?
What is he wrong about? You can't dismiss it simply because you don't like the message. He succinctly described and quantified his statement....that strength alone isn't enough. He didn't say tr is a bust.....
He has elite strength and quickness/agility/acceleration/whatever you want to call it. Brown says he doesn't see the elite quickness so he's either blind or bitter or both. There is no way a man of TR size should be able to move the way he does (he moves better than MDJ) so I call that something special.
Keep in mind guys he also said Emmitt Smith wasn't anything special either.
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If Jim Brown had any class, he would just keep his mouth shut. Let's see what the kid has before we start poking him. He hasn't even run the ball in a game that counts yet.
whatever. same old shit. either you agree with him because you didn't like the trade up (suckers) to get him or you agree with him when he said we should've drafted a couple of receivers. i agree with both of those statements.
If Jim Brown had any class, he would just keep his mouth shut. Let's see what the kid has before we start poking him. He hasn't even run the ball in a game that counts yet.
can't the same thing be said about brandon weeden? the guy hasn't even put pads on yet but MOST of you are ready to annoint him king dipshit number one.
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whatever. same old shit. either you agree with him because you didn't like the trade up (suckers) to get him or you agree with him when he said we should've drafted a couple of receivers. i agree with both of those statements.
If Jim Brown had any class, he would just keep his mouth shut. Let's see what the kid has before we start poking him. He hasn't even run the ball in a game that counts yet.
can't the same thing be said about brandon weeden? the guy hasn't even put pads on yet but MOST of you are ready to annoint him king dipshit number one.
whatever. same old shit. either you agree with him because you didn't like the trade up (suckers) to get him or you agree with him when he said we should've drafted a couple of receivers. i agree with both of those statements.
can't the same thing be said about brandon weeden? the guy hasn't even put pads on yet but MOST of you are ready to annoint him king dipshit number one.
And some guy on this board is calling Claiborne an all pro CB? Maybe everyone should just shut up till everyone of these rookies gets a chance to play.
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Dude has earned and is entitled to his opinion. I think he's wrong, but he is still entitled. Looks like he is watching the wrong highlights. The dude is a beast, and has better hands catching the ball as a rookie than 80% of the backs in the league. Many people are also overlooking how good of a blocker he is. I am saying it now, dude is Pro Bowl/HOF barring injury.
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I agree. However- to justify his draft status and picks we gave up (and I've said this all along)- Richardson had better be more than just "pretty good". He had better be Ladanian Tomlinson good. I might cut him a break, and say top 10 all time. And like Jim Brown- I don't see it. I hope he proves both of us wrong.
So you expect every top 5 pick to be top 10 all time among their position or just in this case?
What is he wrong about? You can't dismiss it simply because you don't like the message. He succinctly described and quantified his statement....that strength alone isn't enough. He didn't say tr is a bust.....
He has elite strength and quickness/agility/acceleration/whatever you want to call it. Brown says he doesn't see the elite quickness so he's either blind or bitter or both. There is no way a man of TR size should be able to move the way he does (he moves better than MDJ) so I call that something special.
Keep in mind guys he also said Emmitt Smith wasn't anything special either.
So you expect every top 5 pick to be top 10 all time among their position or just in this case?
He has elite strength and quickness/agility/acceleration/whatever you want to call it. Brown says he doesn't see the elite quickness so he's either blind or bitter or both. There is no way a man of TR size should be able to move the way he does (he moves better than MDJ) so I call that something special.
Keep in mind guys he also said Emmitt Smith wasn't anything special either.
I agree with him on Emmitt. He was extremely durable but he didn't have elite speed or agility. If you switch Emmitt with Barry Sanders on those Lion's teams Emmitt wouldn't have put up the numbers he did while Sanders would be far and away the all time leader in rushing yards on those Cowboy teams.
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So you expect every top 5 pick to be top 10 all time among their position or just in this case?
He has elite strength and quickness/agility/acceleration/whatever you want to call it. Brown says he doesn't see the elite quickness so he's either blind or bitter or both. There is no way a man of TR size should be able to move the way he does (he moves better than MDJ) so I call that something special.
Keep in mind guys he also said Emmitt Smith wasn't anything special either.
I agree with him on Emmitt. He was extremely durable but he didn't have elite speed or agility. If you switch Emmitt with Barry Sanders on those Lion's teams Emmitt wouldn't have put up the numbers he did while Sanders would be far and away the all time leader in rushing yards on those Cowboy teams.
I agree with him on Emmitt. He was extremely durable but he didn't have elite speed or agility. If you switch Emmitt with Barry Sanders on those Lion's teams Emmitt wouldn't have put up the numbers he did while Sanders would be far and away the all time leader in rushing yards on those Cowboy teams.
But now we're playing hypothetical's.
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I agree with him on Emmitt. He was extremely durable but he didn't have elite speed or agility. If you switch Emmitt with Barry Sanders on those Lion's teams Emmitt wouldn't have put up the numbers he did while Sanders would be far and away the all time leader in rushing yards on those Cowboy teams.
But now we're playing hypothetical's.
But now we're playing hypothetical's.
Well who do you believe was the better of the two backs?
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But now we're playing hypothetical's.
Well who do you believe was the better of the two backs?
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