Other Teams "fumble" "drive" "red Right 88"
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The thrill of victory, and the Steeler Vinko Bogataj moment:
By the way, the Bronco statue that sits on top of the scoreboard that you see in this video is only 1 of 2 life size statues made of Trigger, Roy Rogers horse. The other I believe is in a Roy Rogers Museum in California.
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Endy-
Damn, you can't be serious? You guys have won 6 Superbowls, and you pointed out (to your credit) a couple of disappointments.
I was not a witness to the first 4 super bowl victories of the Steelers, I was a witness to Super Bowl 30. The Gipper can attest to the greatness of the Browns before recorded history, but the majority Browns fans here are looking for achievments of glory in today's day and age. I wanted to see Pittsburgh and San Francisco battle it out for the 5th Lombardy in 1995. I could probably claim the 1994 AFC season championship loss by the Steelers as a heartbreaker, but in a way to me it made me more interested in football.
Look at the Steelers after the 1995 season. Cowher struggled to get the team past the AFC championship game, and took him 10 years to do so again. While it was nice to witness a win Super Bowl victory in 40, that was not nearly as compelling a game as Super Bowl 30. I would trade the 40 victory for a victory in 30. Super Bowl 43 was a good game in my book and Super Bowl 45 wasn't too bad, other than the fact I'd have prefered a different outcome.
Endymion said:
I was not a witness to the first 4 super bowl victories of the Steelers, I was a witness to Super Bowl 30. The Gipper can attest to the greatness of the Browns before recorded history, but the majority Browns fans here are looking for achievments of glory in today's day and age. I wanted to see Pittsburgh and San Francisco battle it out for the 5th Lombardy in 1995. I could probably claim the 1994 AFC season championship loss by the Steelers as a heartbreaker, but in a way to me it made me more interested in football.
Look at the Steelers after the 1995 season. Cowher struggled to get the team past the AFC championship game, and took him 10 years to do so again. While it was nice to witness a win Super Bowl victory in 40, that was not nearly as compelling a game as Super Bowl 30. I would trade the 40 victory for a victory in 30. Super Bowl 43 was a good game in my book and Super Bowl 45 wasn't too bad, other than the fact I'd have prefered a different outcome.
I think, for Cardinals fans, that last minute loss to the Steelers will be their "Drive" "Fumble" etc. A heartbreaking last second defeat.
Like the Browns defense against Elway, their defense collapsed at the most inopportune time.
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"The Big Fuckup" for the Cardinals:
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One commentators list of the Greatest SBs of all time. Not sure I agree on all of them, but it is a fair list:
http://voices.yahoo.com/the-top-10-greatest-super-bowls-5386375.html?cat=14
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I am not a fan of the BleacherReports format, but here are a couple of lists by them that can fit this thread:
First, Top 25 most heart wrenching moments in NFL history.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/638227-top-25-most-heart-wrenching-moments-in-nfl-history
Then, most gut wrenching playoff loss of each NFL franchise
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If you went through the "worst loss for each franchise" site, I think this list was made prior to last year's playoffs. I think for one the Raven's loss last year would have to replace the one they have listed here.
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Endy-
Damn, you can't be serious? You guys have won 6 Superbowls, and you pointed out (to your credit) a couple of disappointments.
You can't win 'em all, although it seems they try. Hey, you forgot the "coin flip" on Thanksgiving...that was funny from a Browns fan standpoint, but wasn't really a good day for that ref.
I understand where he is coming from. Some wise person said: "the losses always sting worse than the victories feel good". I capiche. (and it is also why I son't buy FSG BS)
I understand where he is coming from. Some wise person said: "the losses always sting worse than the victories feel good". I capiche. (and it is also why I son't buy FSG BS)
That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
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I understand where he is coming from. Some wise person said: "the losses always sting worse than the victories feel good". I capiche. (and it is also why I son't buy FSG BS)
That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
Loserville, thats creative. I can only assume you'll follow any retort on his part by calling him a butthead or a meanie face.
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Well, coming from a Redskins fan, here are mine:
The "double time-out" - first game after Sean Taylor died, playing the Bills, Gibbs calls two timeouts in a row trying to freeze their kicker. 15 yard penalty, kick easily made, Skins lose.
Super Bowl 18 (all of it) - Skins go in as the favorite, get blown out 38-9. It was before I was born, but it still is physically painful to talk about it and watch it.
But now, for the flip side:
The "Monday Night Miracle" - Skins down 13-0 to the Cowboys with 3:55 to do in the fourth quarter, 4th and 15. Bomb TD pass to Santana Moss, defensive stop, another bomb to Moss. Skins win 14-13.
The "Hand of God" - Score tied, 5 seconds to go, Cowboys have the ball about to kick the winning field goal. Troy Vincent blocks the kick, Sean Taylor picks it up and returns it, gets a facemask penalty, and we kick the winning Field Goal.
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Well, coming from a Redskins fan, here are mine:
The "double time-out" - first game after Sean Taylor died, playing the Bills, Gibbs calls two timeouts in a row trying to freeze their kicker. 15 yard penalty, kick easily made, Skins lose.
Super Bowl 18 (all of it) - Skins go in as the favorite, get blown out 38-9. It was before I was born, but it still is physically painful to talk about it and watch it.
But now, for the flip side:
The "Monday Night Miracle" - Skins down 13-0 to the Cowboys with 3:55 to do in the fourth quarter, 4th and 15. Bomb TD pass to Santana Moss, defensive stop, another bomb to Moss. Skins win 14-13.
The "Hand of God" - Score tied, 5 seconds to go, Cowboys have the ball about to kick the winning field goal. Troy Vincent blocks the kick, Sean Taylor picks it up and returns it, gets a facemask penalty, and we kick the winning Field Goal.
The "double time-out" - first game after Sean Taylor died, playing the Bills, Gibbs calls two timeouts in a row trying to freeze their kicker. 15 yard penalty, kick easily made, Skins lose.
wow.....that one would hurt. i thought our HC was a bumbling idiot.....but gibbs wasn't a rookie. senility maybe?
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The "double time-out" - first game after Sean Taylor died, playing the Bills, Gibbs calls two timeouts in a row trying to freeze their kicker. 15 yard penalty, kick easily made, Skins lose.
wow.....that one would hurt. i thought our HC was a bumbling idiot.....but gibbs wasn't a rookie. senility maybe?
wow.....that one would hurt. i thought our HC was a bumbling idiot.....but gibbs wasn't a rookie. senility maybe?
He said he didn't know, but I don't know how much weight I put on that. I have a feeling he just plain and simple forgot with all the emotion of the moment. Sean Taylor was the first player he drafted in his second go around, was coming into his own as the best safety in the league (Ed Reed's ball skills and range, Polamalu's smarts, and the fiercest hitting safety in NFL history), and was very abruptly taken. The first game (at home, no less) following close to an hour long service in memory of him. I think he just got caught up in the moment.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned "wide right" and yes the music city miracle sucks...let Jax fan show you my reaction to that play.
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That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
Loserville, thats creative. I can only assume you'll follow any retort on his part by calling him a butthead or a meanie face.
Loserville, thats creative. I can only assume you'll follow any retort on his part by calling him a butthead or a meanie face.
As typical of a Browns fan, you are incorrect.
Look to your own Gipper, the POS that makes jokes about the 911 attacks, as the originator of "loserville". I just reintroduced his own ignorance back to him.
Not one of you on this board have ever proven the ability to talk football without making a fool of yourself, you all always have to go off the reservation because you're being embarrassed when trying to talk football. You have a fool like Gipper who thinks a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries is a major disappointment for the franchise - it's nothing compared to 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2010.
And you all lack the ability to see 5 minutes in front of you. The loss last year was a blessing in disguise. It led to the removal of Arians, the drafting of talented OL prospects and the directive from ownership and coaching to make an effort to protect Ben - so he isn't exposed to as many injuries. You all celebrated his injury last year, but completely miss that it likely added 3 more years to his career.
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Loserville, thats creative. I can only assume you'll follow any retort on his part by calling him a butthead or a meanie face.
As typical of a Browns fan, you are incorrect.
Look to your own Gipper, the POS that makes jokes about the 911 attacks, as the originator of "loserville". I just reintroduced his own ignorance back to him.
Not one of you on this board have ever proven the ability to talk football without making a fool of yourself, you all always have to go off the reservation because you're being embarrassed when trying to talk football. You have a fool like Gipper who thinks a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries is a major disappointment for the franchise - it's nothing compared to 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2010.
And you all lack the ability to see 5 minutes in front of you. The loss last year was a blessing in disguise. It led to the removal of Arians, the drafting of talented OL prospects and the directive from ownership and coaching to make an effort to protect Ben - so he isn't exposed to as many injuries. You all celebrated his injury last year, but completely miss that it likely added 3 more years to his career.
As typical of a Browns fan, you are incorrect.
Look to your own Gipper, the POS that makes jokes about the 911 attacks, as the originator of "loserville". I just reintroduced his own ignorance back to him.
Not one of you on this board have ever proven the ability to talk football without making a fool of yourself, you all always have to go off the reservation because you're being embarrassed when trying to talk football. You have a fool like Gipper who thinks a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries is a major disappointment for the franchise - it's nothing compared to 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2010.
And you all lack the ability to see 5 minutes in front of you. The loss last year was a blessing in disguise. It led to the removal of Arians, the drafting of talented OL prospects and the directive from ownership and coaching to make an effort to protect Ben - so he isn't exposed to as many injuries. You all celebrated his injury last year, but completely miss that it likely added 3 more years to his career.
You consider my comment "going off the reservation?" You've got some thin skin for a steeler fan on a Browns board.
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I understand where he is coming from. Some wise person said: "the losses always sting worse than the victories feel good". I capiche. (and it is also why I son't buy FSG BS)
That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
That's because you're so stupid, you don't know the difference between being able to handle a loss and being able to handle losing.
My world didn't fall apart because the Steelers lost a playoff game against an inferior team. But your inability to comprehend that mentality is what makes you who you are.
Welcome to loserville - that is where you have been born and raised.
Perhaps, but I got out. You will die there.
Again, fool. The fact that you have experienced winning titles, as I said, makes the Tebow sticking one up your ass a bit more tolerable.
The other thing that perhaps makes you take it easier is the fact that you arrogant enough to THINK that your team will be back there again and win again. When that doesn't happen in the next 20 years, you will look back and realize that Tebow shoving your football up your collective asses was the death knell of any so called Steeler dynasty.
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Loserville, thats creative. I can only assume you'll follow any retort on his part by calling him a butthead or a meanie face.
As typical of a Browns fan, you are incorrect.
Look to your own Gipper, the POS that makes jokes about the 911 attacks, as the originator of "loserville". I just reintroduced his own ignorance back to him.
Not one of you on this board have ever proven the ability to talk football without making a fool of yourself, you all always have to go off the reservation because you're being embarrassed when trying to talk football. You have a fool like Gipper who thinks a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries is a major disappointment for the franchise - it's nothing compared to 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2010.
And you all lack the ability to see 5 minutes in front of you. The loss last year was a blessing in disguise. It led to the removal of Arians, the drafting of talented OL prospects and the directive from ownership and coaching to make an effort to protect Ben - so he isn't exposed to as many injuries. You all celebrated his injury last year, but completely miss that it likely added 3 more years to his career.
As typical of a Browns fan, you are incorrect.
Look to your own Gipper, the POS that makes jokes about the 911 attacks, as the originator of "loserville". I just reintroduced his own ignorance back to him.
I didn't make jokes about 9-11. I made jokes about YOU. And I compared people from NEOhio who root for the Steelers to Americans who root for Al-Qaeda. They are traitors/quislings.
It may be at a whole different level...but the character flaw is still the same.
Not one of you on this board have ever proven the ability to talk football without making a fool of yourself, you all always have to go off the reservation because you're being embarrassed when trying to talk football. You have a fool like Gipper who thinks a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries is a major disappointment for the franchise - it's nothing compared to 1994, 1995, 1997, 2001, 2010.
When YOU make your first intelligent football comment...many of here will be glad to participate in that conversation. We are still waiting. Saying something like "a fluke playoff loss when the Steelers were loaded with injuries....is evidence of your own lack of football intellect...and integrity. To your arrogant, ignorant mind every Steeler loss is a fluke....for which you will make excuses for. Here is the real story: The Broncos were the better team. Period"
And you all lack the ability to see 5 minutes in front of you. The loss last year was a blessing in disguise. It led to the removal of Arians, the drafting of talented OL prospects and the directive from ownership and coaching to make an effort to protect Ben - so he isn't exposed to as many injuries. You all celebrated his injury last year, but completely miss that it likely added 3 more years to his career.
Here is where your arrogance gets in your way. You automatically assume the change in coaching will be for the better.
Maybe yes, maybe no. It is like Homotron who thinks that when Dick LeBeau retires that the defense will not miss a beat. I say that it is rare that you replace Hall of Fame talent (and I am talking about his coaching ability, not his playing ability) with Hall of Fame talent. It took the Steelers almost 25 years to replace Terry Bradshaw with BR. You would think that your defensive coordinator in waiting is like having Steve Young waiting in the wings when Joe Montana leaves. That sort of thing has happened exactly once in NFL history.
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I married a Charger fan and her obnoxious Charger loving family.
I point these "Great" Charger moments out frequently.
"The Freeze" 81 playoff game vs. Cincy.
"the Headache" LT out with a headache during the 07 AFC Championship game vs. the Pats.
"Wide right and then Wide left" two consecutive playoff loses at home with missed FG.
Then of course I hear the comment "well the Browns have never been to the Super Bowl." My counter to that - were the Chargers ever really in a Super Bowl- I think Steve Young just threw another TD pass to Jerry Rice. I'm working on a clever name for this game- taking suggestions.
I'm brutal I know- but you fight back when you are outnumbered. I hope the Browns really lay it on the Chargers this year.
San Diego is the only city in the US with a team in one of the "Big 4" major league sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey) that has gone longer without a title than Cleveland. You can use that on her. San Diego's last title was the Charger's 1963 AFL title team. The only other cities that have gone longer are two Canadian cities: Vancouver since 1915 and Ottawa since 1927...and those cities ONLY have hockey teams. Vancouver should have won it last year but blew a 3-2 game lead in the Stanley Cup finals.
San Diego is the only city in the US with a team in one of the "Big 4" major league sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey) that has gone longer without a title than Cleveland. You can use that on her. San Diego's last title was the Charger's 1963 AFL title team. The only other cities that have gone longer are two Canadian cities: Vancouver since 1915 and Ottawa since 1927...and those cities ONLY have hockey teams. Vancouver should have won it last year but blew a 3-2 game lead in the Stanley Cup finals.
Vancouver won the Stanley Cup not so long ago and the Bowns did win the NFL championship,,,,,,,,,,,,work harder to gather the facts or please explain the message above,,,,,,,,,thanks for all you do
Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes -
San Diego is the only city in the US with a team in one of the "Big 4" major league sports (football, baseball, basketball, hockey) that has gone longer without a title than Cleveland. You can use that on her. San Diego's last title was the Charger's 1963 AFL title team. The only other cities that have gone longer are two Canadian cities: Vancouver since 1915 and Ottawa since 1927...and those cities ONLY have hockey teams. Vancouver should have won it last year but blew a 3-2 game lead in the Stanley Cup finals.
Vancouver won the Stanley Cup not so long ago and the Bowns did win the NFL championship,,,,,,,,,,,,work harder to gather the facts or please explain the message above,,,,,,,,,thanks for all you do
Vancouver won the Stanley Cup not so long ago and the Bowns did win the NFL championship,,,,,,,,,,,,work harder to gather the facts or please explain the message above,,,,,,,,,thanks for all you do
A team from Vancouver has not won the Stanley Cup since the Vancouver Millionaires won it in 1915. Not sure where you are getting other information. Perhaps you are thinking of either Calgary..1988 or Edmonton...1990.
The Canucks, as mentioned, had a 3-2 game lead last year, but blew it.
And, yes, the Browns last won in 1964, last Cleveland title...one more year sooner than San Diego's last title.
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FYI, a team that has been around for 45 years is on the verge of winning the Stanley Cup this year: the LA Kings who
first came into the league in 1967.
This will be somewhat on the magnitude of the New Orleans Saints winning their first Super Bowl....except for the fact that in LA they were used to seeing the Lakers win numerous time, plus they have had the Dodgers/Angels/Ducks/Raiders all win titles in the interim, so it is ho-hum to that bunch of spoiled schmucks.
Only the following teams have been around longer than the Kings and have gone longer than them to wait for a title:
Atlanta Falcons
Buffalo Bills
Cleveland Browns
San Diego Chargers
Houston Astros
Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans
Minnesota Vikings
Texas Rangers (1 pitch short last year)
Philadelphia Eagles
Atlanta/St. Louis Hawks
Detroit Lions
Sacramento/Kansas City/Cincinnati/Rochester Royals/Kings
Cleveland Indians
Arizona/St. Louis/Chicago Cardinals
Chicago Cubs
Also, the St. Louis Blues, Denver Nuggets and Toronto Maple Leafs have waited as long as the LA Kings.
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