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Jim Brown Speaks Out On Holmgren/richardson

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  • @calfoxwc said:

    Let's look at it another way - about Richardson.

    What does he LACK?

    He HAS excellent field vision, speed, agility,love for the game, character, power, rarely EVER fumbles,

    excellent coordination and balance and very, very quick feet..... he's frickin SMART, he's powerfully built, loves contact, catches out of the backfield excellently...

    Let me repeat AGILITY. Watching him go through agility drills is like watching a blue chippie cb go through the drills.

    so, what are we missing? What's he's missing?

    If nothin, that makes him a hell of a lot more special than ordinary.

    Even more so, than if the Browns hadn't drafted a RT.

    Too much bickering about when he was drafted. In this draft this year - he was THE MAN to pick for the Browns.

    OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Peterson. That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more.

    @hoorta said:

    OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Richardson. That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more.

    ...so, Richardson is .2-.3 seconds slower than the fastest runningback in the league? So what, if the defenders ever catch up to him they still have to TRY and tackle him... and that's where it gets interesting!!! 😉

  • This is some fucked up shit to say but this guys mom, two aunts and dad all have / had cancer.

    Talk about a red mother fuckin flag.

    Let's all keep our fingers crossed.

    It's not funny and I would not wish it on anyone ... just sayin...

  • Can we at least all agree that the offense will now be watchable. Evaluating talent isn't an exact science and no one knows who'll be the next great one. We can argue about the draft all we want but we really can judge it for another couple years.

    All I know is that by all appearances our team has improved. Problem is other teams have too. We have a huge talent gap on this division. We're all passionate about this team and some of us are just bitter about the past decade of shit football.

    This is a great board. No more needing to insult each other. Lets save it for the fans of other teams and the newbies.

    @usfbrown said:

    Can we at least all agree that the offense will now be watchable. Evaluating talent isn't an exact science and no one knows who'll be the next great one. We can argue about the draft all we want but we really can judge it for another couple years.

    All I know is that by all appearances our team has improved. Problem is other teams have too. We have a huge talent gap on this division. We're all passionate about this team and some of us are just bitter about the past decade of shit football.

    This is a great board. No more needing to insult each other. Lets save it for the fans of other teams and the newbies.

    Agree. It's now up to UnShurmer & his staff to get results.

    I see the arguments here about who we could have or should have drafted. I wanted a LB at #22 or 37- didn't happen. I won't bitch about it until I see them take the field (I think we have the worst LBs in the league).

    GO BROWNS

  • OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Peterson, LOL I fixed it Cal 🙂 . That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more. Mr. Hoorta

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    I understand that a bit - but the other two rb's you mentioned don't have his power. It's a trade off I will take any day. He's still very fast. The .2/.3 difference is

    almost insignificant to me, when Richardson is a powerful runner, and not lacking serious agility and all.😉

  • is it then a position thing, where 4.5 is acceptable for RB's but not WR's?

  • OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Peterson, LOL I fixed it Cal 🙂 . That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more. Mr. Hoorta

    *************************************************

    I understand that a bit - but the other two rb's you mentioned don't have his power. It's a trade off I will take any day. He's still very fast. The .2/.3 difference is

    almost insignificant to me, when Richardson is a powerful runner, and not lacking serious agility and all.😉

    @calfoxwc said:

    OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Richardson. That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more. Mr. Hoorta

    *************************************************

    I understand that a bit - but the other two rb's you mentioned don't have his power. It's a trade off I will take any day. He's still very fast. The .2/.3 difference is

    almost insignificant to me, when Richardson is a powerful runner, and not lacking serious agility and all.😉

    That 4.5 speed is during games with his pads on, he did clock a 4.45 at his pro day.

  • @calfoxwc said:

    OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Richardson. That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more. Mr. Hoorta

    *************************************************

    I understand that a bit - but the other two rb's you mentioned don't have his power. It's a trade off I will take any day. He's still very fast. The .2/.3 difference is

    almost insignificant to me, when Richardson is a powerful runner, and not lacking serious agility and all.😉

    That 4.5 speed is during games with his pads on, he did clock a 4.45 at his pro day.

    @harry-buffalo said:

    That 4.5 speed is during games with his pads on, he did clock a 4.45 at his pro day.

    We'll just have to wait and see come September. 🙂

  • @hoorta said:

    OK, since you asked Cal- at least to me Richardson doesn't have the 5th gear of a Tomlinson or Richardson. That may be nit-picking. 4.5 speed isn't exceptional for a running back- there's more than a few LBs who can clock that speed. If you want exceptional, Bo Jackson ran a 4.2 the other two guys were in the low 4.4s, high 4.3s. That's the difference between being caught from behind- or not. 🙂 Of course I hope Trent's everything he's cracked up to be- and more.

    ...so, Richardson is .2-.3 seconds slower than the fastest runningback in the league? So what, if the defenders ever catch up to him they still have to TRY and tackle him... and that's where it gets interesting!!! 😉

    @poeticg said:

    ...so, Richardson is .2-.3 seconds slower than the fastest runningback in the league? So what, if the defenders ever catch up to him they still have to TRY and tackle him... and that's where it gets interesting!!! 😉

    🙂 Cornerbacks don't try to tackle guys like that anymore PG. They just throw their bodies at the runners legs, hope they get lucky and he trips.

  • Jim who? 🤔

  • I'm going to type my responses in 45 pt font from now on.

  • Smaller guys who are quicker in shorts won't amount to his speed and momentum once they all put the helmet and pads on... and that's is where it counts anyways...

  • @king-ghoolie-lives said:

    Does anyone have happy hour down there?

    I agree.

  • yeah from 5 to 9. $3 cosmos and you get to ride the greased mechanical bull for free!!