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Brandon Weeden... From Someone Who Watched Him Play For 3 Year At Osu

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

    i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

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    S Speedyd900rr wrote on last edited by Speedyd900rr
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    @miktoxic said:

    you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

    i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

    Gas had to be 50 cents a gallon cause the cars your generation made were so high tech they only got 5 miles a gallon.

    Nothing beats the stench of jealousy and bitterness you old folk give off because you know we still have our whole lives ahead of us where as you will be knocking on deaths door in the next 10 to 20 years.

    I bet your idea of great music is either the BeeGees or Boy George. Tell us, were you wearing platform shoes in the 70's or were you one of those long hair having rock homos whos favorite band wore more makeup then a 16 year old school girl? Either way I got $50 bucks that says you changed your style of music and clothes each decade up until you became old.

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      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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      the only speedy i know of was the cartton mexican mouse or a guy i knew that used to sell white cross speed.

      yeah seeing pink floyd animals at the world series of rock at municipal stadium in '77 must be your idea of the bee gees. then the next year lineup was utopia, the cars first tour, bob welch and fleetwood mac. i guess that's boy george to you.

      no one is bitter about being old. why you had to respond to a post that was a retort from another poster is beyond me. my statement about being punks and pussies is true though. either you get bullied and hang yourself, are gay and shove it in people's faces or you sit in your mom's basement playing playstation all year long while wasting away like a dried up sunflower.

      i'm still going to concerts, still wearing shorts boots and tshirts.

      i guess that must be so lame compared to your justin beiber hair cuts, your auto-tune house music vocals, lip-synced choreographed lady gaga'concerts' and the ghetto wear you pay ridiculous amounts of money for.

      jsut get off my ass. i don't think i've ever directed anything at you before but if you wanna go, let's go.

      there's a big difference between a strong old man and a strong young man. i guess your uncle joe never slapped you upside your head like he should have. you might learn when to hold your tongue and respect someone that has been around a little longer than you have.

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        B brownsfanday1 wrote on last edited by brownsfanday1
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        Lol,nice reply miktoxic I also am well over 50. Those were good tim

        es spend outside in the fresh air than in the house like kids now who spend it in front of game boxes in the house.

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          @miktoxic said:

          you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

          i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

          Gas had to be 50 cents a gallon cause the cars your generation made were so high tech they only got 5 miles a gallon.

          Nothing beats the stench of jealousy and bitterness you old folk give off because you know we still have our whole lives ahead of us where as you will be knocking on deaths door in the next 10 to 20 years.

          I bet your idea of great music is either the BeeGees or Boy George. Tell us, were you wearing platform shoes in the 70's or were you one of those long hair having rock homos whos favorite band wore more makeup then a 16 year old school girl? Either way I got $50 bucks that says you changed your style of music and clothes each decade up until you became old.

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          @speedyd900rr said:

          Nothing beats the stench of jealousy and bitterness you old folk give off because you know we still have our whole lives ahead of us where as you will be knocking on deaths door in the next 10 to 20 years.

          nothing beats the ignorance and disrespect constantly displayed by you kids, who think youve actually done something more than existing as a parasite attached to your parents past age 25. each generation gets less intelligent, more cocky, and less capable of dealing with life and tough decisions. ya sit around and waste your life away wearing out your thumbs behind a TV screen all the while thinking youre badass for being good at a fucking game. meanwhile, kids overseas are studying their asses off and taking all the jobs youre too fucking stupid to apply for.

          bitterness? no....i have a feeling youre just mistaking that for disappointment.

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            I'll get this back on topic.

            Brandon Weeden should be awesome. And he's finally getting first team reps. Only took like 2 weeks. Not too shabby

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              Enough about his age. He's still young. How does he compare to other quarterbacks? He's 6 years younger than Tom Brady; the same age as Aaron Rodgers; 5 years younger than Drew Brees; 3 years younger than Eli Manning and 4 years younger than Tony Romo. Those were last years top five. Only 2 of the next 5 are younger (one of those by only 1 year). This guy still has a great shelf life and we get to skip those typically sucky years of the mid twenties.

              You posters act like he's 41.

              Brandon's Da Man!!!!

              ok, this is not bashing weeden but pointing out your argument makes no sense.

              he's the same age as aaron rodgers who sat for 3 years and has played for 3. how does that relate to a 28 yr. old rookie out of college who hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game?

              brees brady and rodgers have all won the superbowl. weeden hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game.

              hell i'm 22 years older than weeden but we've got to have something in common, right?? yep, neither one of us has taken a snap in a nfl game.

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              @miktoxic said:

              ok, this is not bashing weeden but pointing out your argument makes no sense.

              he's the same age as aaron rodgers who sat for 3 years and has played for 3. how does that relate to a 28 yr. old rookie out of college who hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game?

              brees brady and rodgers have all won the superbowl. weeden hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game.

              hell i'm 22 years older than weeden but we've got to have something in common, right?? yep, neither one of us has taken a snap in a nfl game.

              You get one of them free electric wheel chairs from Medicare?

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                @sirluck said:

                Enough about his age. He's still young. How does he compare to other quarterbacks? He's 6 years younger than Tom Brady; the same age as Aaron Rodgers; 5 years younger than Drew Brees; 3 years younger than Eli Manning and 4 years younger than Tony Romo. Those were last years top five. Only 2 of the next 5 are younger (one of those by only 1 year). This guy still has a great shelf life and we get to skip those typically sucky years of the mid twenties.

                You posters act like he's 41.

                Brandon's Da Man!!!!

                ok, this is not bashing weeden but pointing out your argument makes no sense.

                he's the same age as aaron rodgers who sat for 3 years and has played for 3. how does that relate to a 28 yr. old rookie out of college who hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game?

                brees brady and rodgers have all won the superbowl. weeden hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game.

                hell i'm 22 years older than weeden but we've got to have something in common, right?? yep, neither one of us has taken a snap in a nfl game.

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                @miktoxic said:

                ok, this is not bashing weeden but pointing out your argument makes no sense.

                he's the same age as aaron rodgers who sat for 3 years and has played for 3. how does that relate to a 28 yr. old rookie out of college who hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game?

                brees brady and rodgers have all won the superbowl. weeden hasn't taken a snap in a nfl game.

                hell i'm 22 years older than weeden but we've got to have something in common, right?? yep, neither one of us has taken a snap in a nfl game.

                The point is he is not that old.. If we get 6-8 years out of Weeden and he is a great QB then this was an awesome pick (and we will get 6-8 years, and this will be an awesome pick)

                You're posts are so negative and cynical for 22 years old.. life is good man

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                  hammertimeH hammertime wrote on last edited by
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                  i like the post also. although it reminds me of some guy pimping Jake Delhomo a few years ago, he guaranteed us jake was the bomb lol.

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                    i like the post also. although it reminds me of some guy pimping Jake Delhomo a few years ago, he guaranteed us jake was the bomb lol.

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                    @hammertime said:

                    i like the post also. although it reminds me of some guy pimping Jake Delhomo a few years ago, he guaranteed us jake was the bomb lol.

                    Don't forget we had a few Texas fans coming in here pimping Noodles as well.

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                      I loved what Weeden did for OSU but Zac Robinson has got to be my favorite poke QB. It might be because I was attending OSU at the time so I was a little more emotionally attached to those teams but Robinson embodied OSU for me. He wasn't the most talented but he was a scrapper and played a big part in putting us back on the map. Throw in the fact that Texas and OU were still on top of their game while Robinson was there and it was a perfect underdog type of story. As far as other OSU QB's I would've loved to see what Josh Fields could've done in the NFL. Those big 3 teams (Fields, Woods, Bell) were fun to watch.

                      As far as the little generation war we got going on, I've never understood older generations shitting on the younger. If you take into consideration that the older generation is responsible for teaching/ instilling the necessary moral and ethical principles of the younger generation, isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

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                        I loved what Weeden did for OSU but Zac Robinson has got to be my favorite poke QB. It might be because I was attending OSU at the time so I was a little more emotionally attached to those teams but Robinson embodied OSU for me. He wasn't the most talented but he was a scrapper and played a big part in putting us back on the map. Throw in the fact that Texas and OU were still on top of their game while Robinson was there and it was a perfect underdog type of story. As far as other OSU QB's I would've loved to see what Josh Fields could've done in the NFL. Those big 3 teams (Fields, Woods, Bell) were fun to watch.

                        As far as the little generation war we got going on, I've never understood older generations shitting on the younger. If you take into consideration that the older generation is responsible for teaching/ instilling the necessary moral and ethical principles of the younger generation, isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        @taco918 said:

                        As far as the little generation war we got going on, I've never understood older generations shitting on the younger. If you take into consideration that the older generation is responsible for teaching/ instilling the necessary moral and ethical principles of the younger generation, isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

                        no. no one is shitting on the younger generation. some guy popped off about 'us old guys' think this and think that. all i said was that the time i grew up we as a country had it's problems and all but for the most part it was a pretty good time to grow up (i'm talkin mid 70's thru the 80's. no war. low unemployment (at least not what we're facing right now) and the crack about the music was dead on. musicians couldn't fake anything back then. now you've got this shit like neo and Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche and usher that would rather do choreography than sing the fucking song. sure there are good groups out there but the music congloms took over every major station and made them all z100 formats. blech!!!

                        and your point about the older generation teaching the younger generation doesn't hold water because as we all know none of us listen anyways. and as you get older you'll say to yourself "i should have listened to my dad when he said" ......

                        age is overated. what i thought was old at thirty doesn't seem so old to me now at fifty.

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                          There has only been a few, a handful of players I've just loved watching so much at OSU I root for their NFL teams.... my first was Thurman Thomas, which I'll always be a Bills fan at heart. Then was Barry Sanders, but I couldn't really get into rooting for the Lions. Now it's Justin Blackmon at Jacksonville but my favorite of them all? (and this is coming from someone that has watched OSU football for 30+ years)... Brandon Weeden.

                          He is a once "ever 50 years" type QB in college and I have never in my life seen a quarterback as special as Weeden. Not ever. Not Mike Gundy, not Zac Robinson, not Rusty Hildger, etc, etc.

                          He was a coach on the football field and had the smarts and the arm to do WHATEVER he wanted including calling his own plays on the field. The first time I saw him play was when I was in the stands at Boone Pickens Stadium on a Thursday Night vs Colorado. Our backup quarterback who was starting in place of a hurt Zac Robinson (now with the Pats?) went 0-for-9 and we were down like 24-3 at the half. The 2nd half the put in Brandon and we go from a horrible team to a freaking bad-ass team with his arm. That game was his first touchdown pass to Justin Blackmon, back corner of the endzone. An amazing pass. We go on to win, Brandon throws for 250+ yards in the 2nd half alone. From then on, with a 70% healthy Robinson, I was rooting for Weeden to play out the season. We lost the Cotton Bowl that year and I have NO DOUBT we would have won with BW starting.

                          The next year Brandon had the helm and Justin has his breaking year. I've never seen anything like it. He controlled every part of the game, offense... he inspired the defense. He was freaking amazing. Then this past season? I have no doubt OSU should have been playing LSU for the championship and no doubt in my heart, OSU would have won.

                          I love Blackmon, he's a great kid and his sister goes to school with my oldest daughter. I know their family well... but I'll be rooting 100% for Brandon.

                          You guys got a leader, a gun slinger the likes of Brett Farve. A pure winner. 33 wins in 3 years as a starter! He's again, just a winner.

                          Bad points? Not many, he gets to hurry his passes when being pushed out of the pocket. I'm sure that will be a key the coaches focus on and he played his entire career in the shotgun after hurting his thumb, but if you watched the Senior Bowl, he played well under center. Just going to take a little time.

                          But you guys got a bad ass QB. Next to Luck (who Weeden Beat on the field, and in the stat line) he's the best QB in that draft... better than RG3 (who he ripped up and down the field... score was like 66-3 at one point?)... he beat Tannehill up and down the field and beat Landry Jones (score was 44-3 with 30 seconds to play in the 4th) up and down the field. No QB can say they beat and had better numbers than Luck, RG3, Tannehill and Jones... in one season.

                          Congrats Brown Fans... you got a winner. Now just go WIN! GO BROWNS!!!!!! GO BRANDON!!!!!

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                          brnfan16B brnfan16 wrote on last edited by
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                          @tishomingosith said:

                          There has only been a few, a handful of players I've just loved watching so much at OSU I root for their NFL teams.... my first was Thurman Thomas, which I'll always be a Bills fan at heart. Then was Barry Sanders, but I couldn't really get into rooting for the Lions. Now it's Justin Blackmon at Jacksonville but my favorite of them all? (and this is coming from someone that has watched OSU football for 30+ years)... Brandon Weeden.

                          He is a once "ever 50 years" type QB in college and I have never in my life seen a quarterback as special as Weeden. Not ever. Not Mike Gundy, not Zac Robinson, not Rusty Hildger, etc, etc.

                          He was a coach on the football field and had the smarts and the arm to do WHATEVER he wanted including calling his own plays on the field. The first time I saw him play was when I was in the stands at Boone Pickens Stadium on a Thursday Night vs Colorado. Our backup quarterback who was starting in place of a hurt Zac Robinson (now with the Pats?) went 0-for-9 and we were down like 24-3 at the half. The 2nd half the put in Brandon and we go from a horrible team to a freaking bad-ass team with his arm. That game was his first touchdown pass to Justin Blackmon, back corner of the endzone. An amazing pass. We go on to win, Brandon throws for 250+ yards in the 2nd half alone. From then on, with a 70% healthy Robinson, I was rooting for Weeden to play out the season. We lost the Cotton Bowl that year and I have NO DOUBT we would have won with BW starting.

                          The next year Brandon had the helm and Justin has his breaking year. I've never seen anything like it. He controlled every part of the game, offense... he inspired the defense. He was freaking amazing. Then this past season? I have no doubt OSU should have been playing LSU for the championship and no doubt in my heart, OSU would have won.

                          I love Blackmon, he's a great kid and his sister goes to school with my oldest daughter. I know their family well... but I'll be rooting 100% for Brandon.

                          You guys got a leader, a gun slinger the likes of Brett Farve. A pure winner. 33 wins in 3 years as a starter! He's again, just a winner.

                          Bad points? Not many, he gets to hurry his passes when being pushed out of the pocket. I'm sure that will be a key the coaches focus on and he played his entire career in the shotgun after hurting his thumb, but if you watched the Senior Bowl, he played well under center. Just going to take a little time.

                          But you guys got a bad ass QB. Next to Luck (who Weeden Beat on the field, and in the stat line) he's the best QB in that draft... better than RG3 (who he ripped up and down the field... score was like 66-3 at one point?)... he beat Tannehill up and down the field and beat Landry Jones (score was 44-3 with 30 seconds to play in the 4th) up and down the field. No QB can say they beat and had better numbers than Luck, RG3, Tannehill and Jones... in one season.

                          Congrats Brown Fans... you got a winner. Now just go WIN! GO BROWNS!!!!!! GO BRANDON!!!!!

                          As they say it all looks good on paper. Its hard right now to know another year is comming and another year of QB developing is on the way. I want to feel your excitement about him and the best way will be "W"s. Hope we all can rally around and support "Smoking Weeden"!

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                            I loved what Weeden did for OSU but Zac Robinson has got to be my favorite poke QB. It might be because I was attending OSU at the time so I was a little more emotionally attached to those teams but Robinson embodied OSU for me. He wasn't the most talented but he was a scrapper and played a big part in putting us back on the map. Throw in the fact that Texas and OU were still on top of their game while Robinson was there and it was a perfect underdog type of story. As far as other OSU QB's I would've loved to see what Josh Fields could've done in the NFL. Those big 3 teams (Fields, Woods, Bell) were fun to watch.

                            As far as the little generation war we got going on, I've never understood older generations shitting on the younger. If you take into consideration that the older generation is responsible for teaching/ instilling the necessary moral and ethical principles of the younger generation, isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

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                            @taco918 said:

                            isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

                            one can teach, but its the one's listening that have to do the work.

                            i ignored everything my parents tried to teach me until i got out on my own. life is a little different when you have to fend for yourself. i do fully agree though, that many parents have failed their children....mainly the "helicopter parents." there is a modicum of truth in every cliche....give a man a fish....teach a man to fish.

                            coddling kids teaches them to be reliant, not self sufficient. its instinct to be nurturing, but its taken too far nowadays. no dodgeball or fucking tag anymore? i just saw on the news an outraged parent complaining because her daughter got an award for the most excuses given for forgotten homework. yes, super mom....the award is the schools fault....not yours for neglecting your child.

                            its a very different world nowadays....at age 5, i'd hop on my bike and go riding with my friends all day, never having to worry about getting snatched or shot. people helped each other, neighbors knew each other. my wife an i are currently trying to decide whether we want a child to be raised like this....because apparently discipline isn't allowed anymore, and kids know it.

                            /sorry for the rant....my moms a teacher and my wife is an child's OT serving 4 schools. the shit they say parents do.....

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                              @taco918 said:

                              As far as the little generation war we got going on, I've never understood older generations shitting on the younger. If you take into consideration that the older generation is responsible for teaching/ instilling the necessary moral and ethical principles of the younger generation, isn't shitting on the younger basically an admission that the older generation has failed in their primary duty in life of preparing the younger generation to succeed?

                              no. no one is shitting on the younger generation. some guy popped off about 'us old guys' think this and think that. all i said was that the time i grew up we as a country had it's problems and all but for the most part it was a pretty good time to grow up (i'm talkin mid 70's thru the 80's. no war. low unemployment (at least not what we're facing right now) and the crack about the music was dead on. musicians couldn't fake anything back then. now you've got this shit like neo and Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche and usher that would rather do choreography than sing the fucking song. sure there are good groups out there but the music congloms took over every major station and made them all z100 formats. blech!!!

                              and your point about the older generation teaching the younger generation doesn't hold water because as we all know none of us listen anyways. and as you get older you'll say to yourself "i should have listened to my dad when he said" ......

                              age is overated. what i thought was old at thirty doesn't seem so old to me now at fifty.

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                              no. no one is shitting on the younger generation. some guy popped off about 'us old guys' think this and think that. all i said was that the time i grew up we as a country had it's problems and all but for the most part it was a pretty good time to grow up (i'm talkin mid 70's thru the 80's. no war. low unemployment (at least not what we're facing right now) and the crack about the music was dead on. musicians couldn't fake anything back then. now you've got this shit like neo and Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche and usher that would rather do choreography than sing the fucking song. sure there are good groups out there but the music congloms took over every major station and made them all z100 formats. blech!!!

                              I understand that you were provoked so your comments didn't give me reason to comment. It was the others coming in trying to get their digs in. I'm 24 but I've always seen my formative years as the 90's, which weren't a bad time by any stretch. Maybe not musically but as far as problems within our nation (war, unemployment) it was a good time. I will agree with you on music but only to a certain extent. Most of the pop music nowadays is just awful but like a another poster stated previously, there is still good music out there, you just have to look for it.

                              and your point about the older generation teaching the younger generation doesn't hold water because as we all know none of us listen anyways. and as you get older you'll say to yourself "i should have listened to my dad when he said" ......

                              The older generation teaching the younger has nothing to do with how much the younger listens. Everybody learns (consciously or subconsciously) from their parents, grandparents, and if your lucky great grandparents. Learning to live, or living within society and adhering to its norms, especially in the formative years, isn't innately born in us. It is a learned trait taught to us by an older generation. I rarely listened to my parents growing up, often to my own detriment, but I've still learned more from my parents on how to live and how to treat others then I have from any other source.

                              age is overated. what i thought was old at thirty doesn't seem so old to me now at fifty.

                              @choco said:

                              one can teach, but its the one's listening that have to do the work.

                              I already covered the teaching and listening topic, at least as far as parents/family are concerned.

                              i ignored everything my parents tried to teach me until i got out on my own. life is a little different when you have to fend for yourself. i do fully agree though, that many parents have failed their children....mainly the "helicopter parents." there is a modicum of truth in every cliche....give a man a fish....teach a man to fish.

                              coddling kids teaches them to be reliant, not self sufficient. its instinct to be nurturing, but its taken too far nowadays. no dodgeball or fucking tag anymore? i just saw on the news an outraged parent complaining because her daughter got an award for the most excuses given for forgotten homework. yes, super mom....the award is the schools fault....not yours for neglecting your child.

                              I agree with you view of coddling. From my personal experience, if my parents gave me advice, which I ignored more often then not, they didn't stress out about it because they knew I would learn one way (taking their advice) or the other (crashing and burning.) While crashing and burning wasn't the easiest way to learn the lesson, it usually hammered the idea home much better then by taking the advice with the added bonus of instilling some confidence in myself that while I might've fucked up, I'm still capable of rectifying the problem. Basically if I didn't want to listen I'd have to figure it out on my own. I don't see that happening as often anymore. I don't get the dodgeball or tag thing either. That award was funny as hell. If the mom has a problem with it instead of bitching about it she should probably work on making sure her daughter does her damn homework but then again it's much easier to blame others instead of take responsibility for your own shortcomings/mistakes.

                              its a very different world nowadays....at age 5, i'd hop on my bike and go riding with my friends all day, never having to worry about getting snatched or shot. people helped each other, neighbors knew each other. my wife an i are currently trying to decide whether we want a child to be raised like this....because apparently discipline isn't allowed anymore, and kids know it.

                              It is a different world but I, nor my parents, had any qualms about me riding my bike, although my sisters were a different story. Hell from about 7-15 I went everywhere on my bike but I've never lived in a huge city growing up. We lived in suburbs when living near big cities (Cleveland, St. Louis) and here in Tulsa it's not densely populated outside of the downtown area so actually living within the city limits isn't a big hassle as far as safety is concerned. It's still possible to raise a child in a traditional manner, it's just heavily dependent on location. If your living in downtown Cleveland, probably not. A suburb probably, granted I haven't been in the Cleveland area for awhile so I can't give you a definitive answer but my time in the area was nothing short of amazing. Small town feel, my neighborhood was full of kids my age so I always had buddies to hangout with, my family knew all of my neighbors, ect.

                              /sorry for the rant....my moms a teacher and my wife is an child's OT serving 4 schools. the shit they say parents do.....

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                                there's no way ever no matter where i live nowadays that i'd let any of my kids or loved ones, friends or friends of loved ones walk out a joint anywhere by themselves to 'just walk home' or 'get a pack of cigarettes' by themselves without a tagalong or knowing that they were well aware of the dangers that face anyone at anytime nowadays. at anytime every night on any mainstream broadcast channel the main lead story is 'abducted'.

                                that's what made stupid slasher films like texas chainsaw massacre so scary at the time.....everyone trusted everyone else to be just as nice and kind as you'd hope they'd be. and a knock at the door looking for gas or a phone call wouldn't end in a tragedy.

                                or just being in bumfuck anywhere with no backup:

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                                  OK. since we're way off topic on the age war thing- I'm going to weigh in with my .02. Since I'm older than about any of you- a few of you young 'uns could be my grandkids.

                                  Yes, the Woodstock Generation has its faults- but we were taught by OUR parents, and grandparents. Think things are rough? Both my grandfathers had it rough in the Great Depression, especially grandpa Mike- care to try eating onion burgers (without the meat) for a week when you're making 17 cents an hour on government make work jobs?

                                  '62 Cuban Missile crisis where one push of the button would have sent us into nuclear winter?

                                  Each generation blames their parents for creating the lousy world they live in- and it's not going to change anytime soon. I've seen five examples of it. 🙂 If I fault the under 30 folks- it's them (in general) having the false assumption the gravy train is never going to end. I hate to tell you- it can, and it will. No government in the history of the world has ever dug out from a debt load as massive as the United States has totaled up without hyper inflating the currency. Loaf of bread- $250,000 coming eventually to a store near you.

                                  Have a sense of history young 'uns. Do you realize there's people alive today who have talked to people who fought in the Civil War? Speaking of- there were almost double 7,000 or so killed at Gettysburg than at 9-11? And 30,000 more wounded? Put that on CNN today and see how that gets billed. Makes Afghanistan and Iran look like a tempest in a teacup, especially considering the total population of the United States at the time.

                                  BTW, I love music- though I have trouble relating to what some of the younger crowd calls "music". Problem is- why should I have to go looking for it? You'd think some entrepreneur with a few communicating neurons would figure out the oldsters are tired of hearing "Stairway to Heaven" for the millionth time and start playing the old guys new stuff for a change on commercial radio. Case in point would be me figuring out in the last year Tom Morello was wasting immense talent playing in Rage Against the Machine, and doing Ghost of Tom Joad with Springsteen on the 25th Anniversary R&R HOF concert.

                                  Mark Twain said it best. "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."

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                                    I hope and pray Brandon can at least make the pass offense respectable. We've got decent receivers.

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                                      you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

                                      i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

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                                      @miktoxic said:

                                      you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

                                      i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

                                      hard to have respect for elders when they are the ones laying the foundation.

                                      respected is earned at any age not granted with a buckeye card or an AARP application.

                                      Besides I bet all the 75-80 yr old timers are sick to there stomachs about your era as well.

                                      You call the kids pusses and don't want them to respond to that. WTF......

                                      P.S. Boots with shorts has been gay in any generation.

                                      "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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                                        @king-ghoolie-lives said:

                                        It isn't hard for me at all to get exited about Weeden. This kid is the tits. He will elevate EVERY single player on the Browns team, both by his leadership and his playing.

                                        Browns go 10 - 6, split with the Ravens, Steelers and Bengals.

                                        I am glad you are high on him, that a lot to me! I also appreciate that the guy watched him play is so high on him Hopefully he is the real deal

                                        Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                                          @miktoxic said:

                                          you da big puss, or da big muddafuk?

                                          i'll forever be eighteen. yep grew up in the age of 50 cent a gallon gasoline and great music. can't say the same for this generation of punks and pussies.

                                          hard to have respect for elders when they are the ones laying the foundation.

                                          respected is earned at any age not granted with a buckeye card or an AARP application.

                                          Besides I bet all the 75-80 yr old timers are sick to there stomachs about your era as well.

                                          You call the kids pusses and don't want them to respond to that. WTF......

                                          P.S. Boots with shorts has been gay in any generation.

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                                          @cdl15 said:

                                          hard to have respect for elders when they are the ones laying the foundation.

                                          respected is earned at any age not granted with a buckeye card or an AARP application.

                                          Besides I bet all the 75-80 yr old timers are sick to there stomachs about your era as well.

                                          You call the kids pusses and don't want them to respond to that. WTF......

                                          P.S. Boots with shorts has been gay in any generation.

                                          Does that include the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders?

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