It's official Mangini is the new coach
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Ha Ha Ha Ha another 5 years of gloom for you browns fans, don' say you have not been warned.
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Yeah but you're a Jets fan for life...
Thats right I am but the browns just hired a coach fired by the jets. What does that say about the browns. All the money the jets spend this year and mangini still could not make the playoffs.
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According to a thread at theOBR -
Jim Donovan just reported that Mangini told Lerner "I can win with Brady Quinn" in the interview and it was the final factor swingin things in Mangni's favor ....
So much for the thought that DA had just as much of a chance..... Sucks for you lumbergh
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Thats right I am but the browns just hired a coach fired by the jets. What does that say about the browns. All the money the jets spend this year and mangini still could not make the playoffs.
Soemtimes its about what you have.
your team compiled a ton of sacks, while the Browns werre second to last with 17. Look at the talent in the linebacker corps. The Jets LB's are far from impressive yet they were able to apply pressure to the QB.
Now, the Browns with the second lowest sack total in the league yet were second in the entire NFL in INT's.
Mangini is CLEARLY a much better head coach than RAC and considering he is almost half RAC's age, it's safe to think that he could only improve as a coach.
And no one wants to hear the "We had him and fired him, so what's that say about you guys" argument. Bill Belichick and Marty Schottenheimer are both ex-Browns coaches and both have had success elsewhere after their stint in Cleveland.
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Thats right I am but the browns just hired a coach fired by the jets. What does that say about the browns. All the money the jets spend this year and mangini still could not make the playoffs.
Soemtimes its about what you have.
your team compiled a ton of sacks, while the Browns werre second to last with 17. Look at the talent in the linebacker corps. The Jets LB's are far from impressive yet they were able to apply pressure to the QB.
Now, the Browns with the second lowest sack total in the league yet were second in the entire NFL in INT's.
Mangini is CLEARLY a much better head coach than RAC and considering he is almost half RAC's age, it's safe to think that he could only improve as a coach.
And no one wants to hear the "We had him and fired him, so what's that say about you guys" argument. Bill Belichick and Marty Schottenheimer are both ex-Browns coaches and both have had success elsewhere after their stint in Cleveland.
Soemtimes its about what you have.
your team compiled a ton of sacks, while the Browns werre second to last with 17. Look at the talent in the linebacker corps. The Jets LB's are far from impressive yet they were able to apply pressure to the QB.
Now, the Browns with the second lowest sack total in the league yet were second in the entire NFL in INT's.
Mangini is CLEARLY a much better head coach than RAC and considering he is almost half RAC's age, it's safe to think that he could only improve as a coach.
And no one wants to hear the "We had him and fired him, so what's that say about you guys" argument. Bill Belichick and Marty Schottenheimer are both ex-Browns coaches and both have had success elsewhere after their stint in Cleveland.
Belichick won super bowls as a dc and ms has never one a big game in his life. I will say this, that the browns will regret this decsion and not sure if better then rc. never won a playoff game
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I've stayed out of all the coach talk because I kept changing my mind every 10 minutes.
As for Mangini I've seen some things I like and some things I don't like. The Jets-Seahawks game from a few weeks ago was one of the worst coaching jobs I've ever seen (and that includes all those Krispy Kreme games.)
The job he did in 2007 with limited talent was encouraging.
I think the fact that he failed in N.Y. weighs in his favor. He's going to want to improve, correct his mistakes and prove his naysayers wrong.
This is a lower tier hiring. We didn't get a big name (Cowher, Shanahan etc). Is it because guys of that caliber want nothing to do with our organization? Who knows. On the other hand no coach like that has ever replicated his success in a second go around, so who knows, maybe we got lucky.
Anyway, it's a new start and I am cautiously optimistic. Let's hope the front office and player personnel situation gets sorted out soon as well.
Doug
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not sure if better then rc
At least Mangini made the playoffs. Sorta like what we thought we'd have with schottenheimer, I'd much rather lose in the playoffs that not go to them.
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I don't think EM had the right personal in NY for his style of team.
In Cleveland he gets a younger, faster team in a smaller city with a better fan base.
I don't agree with the coach before the GM though.
I think keeping DA though is something the Browns need to consider. Having a backup with starting experience is so important in the NFL now days, just look at Pittsburgh......Byron bailed us out twice this year.
Oh and yes, I am a Steelers fan...but unlike other fans I want Cleveland to be good, I want the revelry that the Yankees and Red Sox or the Eagles and Giants have.
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Thats right I am but the browns just hired a coach fired by the jets. What does that say about the browns. All the money the jets spend this year and mangini still could not make the playoffs.
Says about the same as New England hiring Belichick after he got fired here and says the same about the Colts hiring Dungy after he got fired by the Bucs and says the same about Shanahan getting hired by the Broncos after being fired by Oakland and on and on and on.
What it says about the Browns is they are a little smarter then the Jets who are second class citizens in their own home town and don't even have their own stadium. Let's see Jets 4-12 before Mangini, after first year 10-6, down year in 2007 because of injuries to QB especially and then rebounded this year and almost made the playoffs even after he got Favre stuffed down his throat.
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I'm not surprised. It was obvious Lerner liked him alot. I just thought we would get further in the GM interviews first.. Especially when Mangini did not seem high on anyone elses list there was no reason to pull the trigger so soon. Well.... it is what it is.. I am not going to bash him or hail him for the past.. But look to the future and judge him on what he does here... Now for the GM.. the draft and someone who can tackle the ball carrier
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first, the things i don't like: bad clock management (again), inability to make halftime adjustments (again), emotionless (again), two-gap, passive 3-4 (again).
then, what i like: not on his first HC gig (maybe he learned something from being in NY), his D got 41 sacks last year (more than twice the 17 we had).
i'm very conflicted about this hire. i think, in many ways, it's a lateral move. we just switched to a younger rac.
i smell at least three more years of mediocrity coming.
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The only way this is going to work out is if randy doesnt play matchmaker with the gm he needs to play fetch the gm instead and go get what mangini wants and needs in a gm to begin fixing things..
If it happens this way i have a good feeling in my gut...
As for you jet fans go enjoy your faggy GM and new coach..oh thats right no good coach wants the job with an overpowering GM looks like shottenslimer is your man...
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