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  • heckofajobbrownie H
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    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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    Tupa, would love to hear your thoughts on the ACA case, whether you buy the "inactivity" argument, what you think they'll decide, etc.

    My feeling, based on the arguments just like everyone else, is that the mandate goes down 5-4 and that the "severability" issue goes 6-3 for keeping parts of the bill, with Roberts and Kennedy joining the liberals. That seemed to be the way Roberts was going during arguments - suspicious of the government's lack of a limiting principle, but also didn't seem to be buying Clement's argument for tossing the whole thing. But who knows? Maybe Roberts creates a limiting principle.

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      You're talking politics wrong.

      I see no biased sources

      no racist cartoons

      No insulting everyone on the other side

      Geez, get with the program

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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      • H heckofajobbrownie

        Tupa, would love to hear your thoughts on the ACA case, whether you buy the "inactivity" argument, what you think they'll decide, etc.

        My feeling, based on the arguments just like everyone else, is that the mandate goes down 5-4 and that the "severability" issue goes 6-3 for keeping parts of the bill, with Roberts and Kennedy joining the liberals. That seemed to be the way Roberts was going during arguments - suspicious of the government's lack of a limiting principle, but also didn't seem to be buying Clement's argument for tossing the whole thing. But who knows? Maybe Roberts creates a limiting principle.

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        W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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        @heckofajobbrownie said:

        Tupa, would love to hear your thoughts on the ACA case, whether you buy the "inactivity" argument, what you think they'll decide, etc.

        My feeling, based on the arguments just like everyone else, is that the mandate goes down 5-4 and that the "severability" issue goes 6-3 for keeping parts of the bill, with Roberts and Kennedy joining the liberals. That seemed to be the way Roberts was going during arguments - suspicious of the government's lack of a limiting principle, but also didn't seem to be buying Clement's argument for tossing the whole thing. But who knows? Maybe Roberts creates a limiting principle.

        I think there is a good argument to be made that the mandate is unconstitutional. I think the specific arguments made in court are painfully crafted to suit the absurd maze of precedent that the Justices mostly pretend to be controlled by.

        I agree with your guess on the 5-4, 6-3.

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          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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          I'd love to hear it if you have the time. I mean, I've read it from 20 other people and know the ins and outs of it, but would rather read your take than just about all the NRO types.

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            Heck is cya'ing again.

            Earlier, he dissed my saying that the hc bill is unconstitutional.

            Now, he's softened that a ton.

            Congrats. Join the rest of us in reality land more often.

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              Heck is cya'ing again.

              Earlier, he dissed my saying that the hc bill is unconstitutional.

              Now, he's softened that a ton.

              Congrats. Join the rest of us in reality land more often.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              @calfoxwc said:

              Congrats. Join the rest of us in reality land more often.

              ?

              Do you sell produce there on the weekends?

              Cuz I know you don't live there

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by
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                When does this get decided?

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                  When does this get decided?

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                  F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                  @vaportrail said:

                  When does this get decided?

                  tomorrow ... stay tuned as they say

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                    H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                    7:00 AM Eastern, Thursday

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                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                      Place your bets.

                      WSS

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                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                        400 on Union Rags

                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                          Blue Note. $2000 to win. Fourth race. Narragansett.

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                            C Chicopee John wrote on last edited by
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                            >>Narragansett>>

                            Hey neighbor, have a 'Gansett.

                            "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              Used to drink it as a poor college student. $6 a case.

                              It's awful, but you can do worse.

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                                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                Ever drink Piels? Worst beer ever. Loses the head 1 second after you pour it. Drank it on Recruiting duty in Albany, NY.

                                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                                • heckofajobbrownie H
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                                  H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                  I think the worst beer ever is Rolling Rock. Never understood its appeal. I'd rather drink Natural Light.

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                                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                    Old Dutch. I collect old dutch memorabilia because it was the first beer I ever purchased in a bar.

                                    it was, as I recall later on in my twenty's and thirty's, a really really cheap beer.

                                    But our cheap beer in college was 16 ounce ers of robin hood cream ale in bottles.

                                    There was a watercolor or acrylic or something painting of robin hood pulling back his bow that looked like it was from an eighth grade art class.

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      The Robin Hood Inn at Kent? @@

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                                        T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                        Im surprised no ones mentioned Milwaukee's beast. Worst tasting beer ever.

                                        Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                          VaporTrailV VaporTrail wrote on last edited by VaporTrail
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                                          I can't drink Amstel Light because it always tastes skunky to me.

                                          That being said, I just brewed my first beer, an Imperial Blonde Ale, and it turned out to be pretty damn good.

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