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Mangini should shell out his LOVE for DA

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  • Savage screwed us with DA contract and no one is going to pick up his current contract where it is right now they will wait for him to get cut.

  • I hope we can keep them both finding a decent backup is not easy...i say trade butterfingers instead of DA...its not like BE actually tries hes a quitter at least DA gives an effort..

    We have been rebuilding since 1964, Why stop now? GO BROWNS!
    medicinemanM 1 Reply

  • Keeping them both would be good in an ideal world, especially considering how low DA's trade value probably is right now. But I'm not sure we need that sort of leftover hangover from the whole QB controversy. DA has got to go to make the whole thing ancient history.

  • I think you keep both for now and see who's better in the new coaching staff's eyes. No sense in getting nothing for whomever you want to discard.

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  • I agree with Stan. Try as best as you can to get what you can for DA, but I don't see any point in keeping him. There's alot of holes in that safety net. Do we really want a guy to come off the bench that gives us zero chance to win?

    -Al

    DieHardBrownsFanD 1 Reply
  • E Earl34

    I think you keep both for now and see who's better in the new coaching staff's eyes. No sense in getting nothing for whomever you want to discard.

    @earl34 said:

    I think you keep both for now and see who's better in the new coaching staff's eyes. No sense in getting nothing for whomever you want to discard.

    I don't think its worth the 5 mill cap hit to do the "who's better" thing one more time.

    medicinemanM 1 Reply
  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    No one is gonna offer a trade if they have any hint that we are gonna release him prior to the March signing bonus. If no one offers anything and we decide we want to keep both, than no harm done.

    But the dumbest thing this new regime can do is to dis DA (or either one of them) and show our cards.

    No more Mr. Nice guy ... His press conference should be DA-this and DA-that, with a luke-warm mention of Brady as being a great player (as well).

    @atenears said:

    No one is gonna offer a trade if they have any hint that we are gonna release him prior to the March signing bonus. If no one offers anything and we decide we want to keep both, than no harm done.

    But the dumbest thing this new regime can do is to dis DA (or either one of them) and show our cards.

    No more Mr. Nice guy ... His press conference should be DA-this and DA-that, with a luke-warm mention of Brady as being a great player (as well).

    That is wishful thinking. But it just might work and again it may stir up the whole QB controversy crap again.

    Head or Gut?
  • Mr. TM Mr. T

    @atenears said:

    No one is gonna offer a trade if they have any hint that we are gonna release him prior to the March signing bonus. If no one offers anything and we decide we want to keep both, than no harm done.

    But the dumbest thing this new regime can do is to dis DA (or either one of them) and show our cards.

    No more Mr. Nice guy ... His press conference should be DA-this and DA-that, with a luke-warm mention of Brady as being a great player (as well).

    That is wishful thinking. But it just might work and again it may stir up the whole QB controversy crap again.

    @mr.-t said:

    That is wishful thinking. But it just might work and again it may stir up the whole QB controversy crap again.

    How do we know they won't keep DA and ship Quinn?

    Mr. TM N ballpeenB 3 Replies
  • E Earl34

    @mr.-t said:

    That is wishful thinking. But it just might work and again it may stir up the whole QB controversy crap again.

    How do we know they won't keep DA and ship Quinn?

    @earl34 said:

    How do we know they won't keep DA and ship Quinn?

    May the best man win thats what I say.

    Head or Gut?

  • Oh God not this again.... we've had 2 seasons of this, give the damn kid a shot already. He played great against Denver then broke his finger against buffalo and played houston with a broken finger and had a bad game (what a suprise seeing as how his injury restricted him from throwing correctly) Im sick of some peoples desire for controversey. This is Quinns team, DA proved exactly what he proved in high school college and the pros, his time is up here, its time to start the future, its time to start winning.

    medicinemanM 1 Reply
  • E Earl34

    @mr.-t said:

    That is wishful thinking. But it just might work and again it may stir up the whole QB controversy crap again.

    How do we know they won't keep DA and ship Quinn?

    @earl34 said:

    How do we know they won't keep DA and ship Quinn?

    Its already being linked in another thread that Mangini has told Lerner he can win with Quinn. Doesn't give DA too many warm-fuzzies I'm sure.

  • @shepwrite said:

    Continued even further-er when Mangini assured Lerner he could Win With Quinn.

    How do we know this? I think that's a rumor. I don't think the coach would commit to that so quickly. Then again, anyone is better than Kellen Clemens or the last five games of Brett Favre.

  • E Earl34

    @shepwrite said:

    Continued even further-er when Mangini assured Lerner he could Win With Quinn.

    How do we know this? I think that's a rumor. I don't think the coach would commit to that so quickly. Then again, anyone is better than Kellen Clemens or the last five games of Brett Favre.

    @earl34 said:

    How do we know this? I think that's a rumor. I don't think the coach would commit to that so quickly. Then again, anyone is better than Kellen Clemens or the last five games of Brett Favre.

    Go post on a Beavers board you big homo.

    2009-10 Browns Prediction: 8-8
  • P pl4tinum

    @earl34 said:

    How do we know this? I think that's a rumor. I don't think the coach would commit to that so quickly. Then again, anyone is better than Kellen Clemens or the last five games of Brett Favre.

    Go post on a Beavers board you big homo.

    @pl4tinum said:

    Go post on a Beavers board you big homo.

    Oh come on...we've digressed to homphobic comments because??? What are you? 12?

    What the hell do the Beavers have to do with this?

  • ? Guest

    Sadly, Stan, I think the DA-is-a-viable-starter-somewhere-in-this-league-so-let's-get-a-good-draft-pick-for-him ship has sailed.

    mz. said:

    Sadly, Stan, I think the DA-is-a-viable-starter-somewhere-in-this-league-so-let's-get-a-good-draft-pick-for-him ship has sailed.

    We should trade him to Tennessee for Chris Simms IMO.

    - Tom F.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"

  • @shepwrite said:

    I'm not being contrary... I just think that ship has sailed.

    Started with Crennel saying Quinn would be the guy. It was assumed that came from above.

    Continued with Anderson saying he doesn't like Cleveland and Cleveland doesn't like him.

    Continued further when the Browns assigned Thomas and Quinn as team spokespersons after the firings.

    Continued even further-er when Mangini assured Lerner he could Win With Quinn.

    But it all started with Anderson having a SUB 70s PASSER RATING OVER HIS LAST 17 STARTS. The guy didn't hit a bump. He sucked for a really long time after some flickering promise against the Bengals, Rams, and other weak defenses. That's it. That's how long it lasted, like 7 or 8 games total.

    His profile around the league is not going to change because of a Cleveland scam. Kiper spoke for the league when he said Anderson is seen as a backup.

    The Browns fans want an identity and that starts with the coach and the QB. They don't want a competition or a revolving door. They want Quinn.

    Well said and completely on point.

    Indecision is the absolute worst thing we could do this offseason and preseason. Quinn is the starter. End of conversation.

  • PlaygroundLegendP PlaygroundLegend

    Oh God not this again.... we've had 2 seasons of this, give the damn kid a shot already. He played great against Denver then broke his finger against buffalo and played houston with a broken finger and had a bad game (what a suprise seeing as how his injury restricted him from throwing correctly) Im sick of some peoples desire for controversey. This is Quinns team, DA proved exactly what he proved in high school college and the pros, his time is up here, its time to start the future, its time to start winning.

    @playgroundlegend said:

    Oh God not this again.... we've had 2 seasons of this, give the damn kid a shot already. He played great against Denver then broke his finger against buffalo and played houston with a broken finger and had a bad game (what a suprise seeing as how his injury restricted him from throwing correctly) Im sick of some peoples desire for controversey. This is Quinns team, DA proved exactly what he proved in high school college and the pros, his time is up here, its time to start the future, its time to start winning.

    Don't know what you're talking about....Derek Anderson is the closest thing this town has seen to winning since Bernie/Vinnie, if you even know who they are/were. No offense, just keepin it real.

  • N NebBrownsFan

    @earl34 said:

    I think you keep both for now and see who's better in the new coaching staff's eyes. No sense in getting nothing for whomever you want to discard.

    I don't think its worth the 5 mill cap hit to do the "who's better" thing one more time.

    @nebbrownsfan said:

    I don't think its worth the 5 mill cap hit to do the "who's better" thing one more time.

    I don't think they can avoid it by simply "cutting" him. It's a 5M wash either way.....a 6.5 mil cap hit or a 5 mil bonus, you're paying either way as I see it.

    His fate comes down to 3 things in my mind: what another team might offer, if DA can still endure Clev, and/or if they'll spend....$XX on a potential back-up. After the 5M wash you pay regardless, you could keep him as a backup for about 1.5 Mil more.

    Unless a team is screaming for him, it sounds like a bargain to me. 😎

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  • GipsG Gips

    I hope we can keep them both finding a decent backup is not easy...i say trade butterfingers instead of DA...its not like BE actually tries hes a quitter at least DA gives an effort..

    @gips said:

    I hope we can keep them both finding a decent backup is not easy...i say trade butterfingers instead of DA...its not like BE actually tries hes a quitter at least DA gives an effort..

    Yeah there's a good one of him quitting up there in my avatar.

  • GeechG Geech

    I agree with Stan. Try as best as you can to get what you can for DA, but I don't see any point in keeping him. There's alot of holes in that safety net. Do we really want a guy to come off the bench that gives us zero chance to win?

    -Al

    @geech said:

    I agree with Stan. Try as best as you can to get what you can for DA, but I don't see any point in keeping him. There's alot of holes in that safety net. Do we really want a guy to come off the bench that gives us zero chance to win?

    -Al

    Agree 100 percent. I'm sure as soon as the GM is chosen and he gets together with the new HC, DA will be with some other team, and we will get whatever we can for him. DA would only be a distraction on the "new" Browns. We have to get rid of him.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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