Looking Ahead
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The Browns have apparently shorn up quite a few areas of weakness with their recent draft acquisitions: QB, RB, WR, RT, and a few others.
The question will be: where do they still have a desperate need for talent?
I am thinking that they will still be in need of run stopping talent. Taylor will be out. Who knows if the later round picks will measure up.
Let's assume that the Browns are NOT going to imrove their record by leaps and bounds this year. That they will be drafting in the top part of the draft, say the top 16 slots.
Who would they look to in the first round next year. (yes, I know, silly when this year's season hasn't even started, but bear with me).
Let's also make an assumption that they will not go after a QB/RB/WR. So no overrated Matt Barkleys or Tyler Wilsons.... all of whom BW3 is better than in my opinon.
Possibles:
At OLB and DE, they can scout basically two schools: Texas and LSU
Barkevious Mingo OLB and Sam Montgomery DE both from LSU
Jackson Jeffcoat and Alex Okafor Texas
Also Jarvis Jones Georgia
Margus Hunt SMU
At DB:
David Amerson CB NC St.
Eric Reid FS LSU
TJ McDonals FS USC
Johnathan Banks CB Miss. St.
DTs:
Star Lutolelei Utah
Johnathan Hankins Ohio St.
Does anyone disagree that we may need to go defense in the first round next year?
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Lets say that Rucker works out at DE and Taylor is back at full strength after the PUP this season.
Lets also assume our LB's are at least serviceable.
One week unit on the defense makes it tough to have a top 10 D. But you can still have a middle of the pack D that will occassionally win you games. If your DB's are awesome and your Line is awesome, you will make your LB's look good.
So, that being said:
I say next year we need the top rated DB we can get.
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Assuming we don't go wr (agree w choco, still think this might be a need), i'd say lb if we are picking in the teens, or best de or db available if we are picking early. Not sure I can pick a linebacker as high as our last few 1st rd picks have been (ex: we dodged the aaron curry from wake forest bullet).
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One other possibility: Manti Te'o ILB from Notre Dame?
Still, I don't know. I do just like the sound of the name "Barkevious Mingo".
He obviously sounds perfect for "The Dawg Pound" if it is insisted that it still be called that, plus, he sounds like a Harry Potter character.
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DE, LB, and DB will be where we will be picking next year. I don't see use looking DT. Taylor will be back, Rubin is still one of the best DT in the game, and we just used two picks on DT this year. If we are picking top 10 I expect that we will be trading back in order to pick up some more picks to compensate for not having our 2nd rounder. There are a lot of different factors that will tell what we go after but honestly after this years draft we could just be going BPA across the board.
DE depends on how Rucker performs and what Benard can accomplish. I think Rucker is going to be as advertised in the run stopping department but we still need a pass rush presence on both DE spots. Bernard is going to need to show that he can be a good passing down DE who can make sacks. If he can we might look else where in this DE heavy draft.
LB depends on Acho and Johnson and how good they end up being and how Gocong looks. Fujita will retire after this season. If Gocong plays at least average and Johnson or Acho show the can be decent starters then we might be looking else where unless someone really great falls to us. If Gocong looks like a mistake resigning and Acho and Johnson don't progress we might find ourselves in the same situation as we were in last year. Needing OLBs.
DB depends or how much farther Brown keeps regressing (or if he retires), how our young CB progress, and how Hagg looks at FS. This up coming year is going to be the worst year for CB in the past 5 drafts. I think it is going to remind everyone of how the safety classes of looked the past two years. How ever the safety class is going to be much more talented than it was the past two years and just slighty less talented than the year that produced both Berry and Thomas. This is the only spot I think we will target one position or the other. We need two legit starting CB more than we need two legit starting safeties. Browns keeps regressing and now one is able to take over we will have to take or sign a starting CB if not I think we go safety. I just don't see Hagg becoming anything more than a decent backup in the NFL.
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I think there is a great chance we go D with our first pick next year. We could use a edge rusher, or OLB...and it never hurts to draft a corner high in the draft.
I'd have a top evaluator at pretty much every LSU game with a cross checker at about half of them. They have a top prospect at every defensive position of need, not to mention you are covering a good portion of the SEC as they play other teams.
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Our main points of need are LB and DB. Assuming Schwartz, Gordon et al pan out, we'll definitely need to address defense. I think it will be a defensive BPA situation next season, as we can really plug and play any star player in. Outside of Haden, Ward, Sheard, Taylor and possibly Jackson, everyone's position is on the line.
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Our main points of need are LB and DB. Assuming Schwartz, Gordon et al pan out, we'll definitely need to address defense. I think it will be a defensive BPA situation next season, as we can really plug and play any star player in. Outside of Haden, Ward, Sheard, Taylor and possibly Jackson, everyone's position is on the line.
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I would say we take the "Honey Badger".
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
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Crazy thing is that the draft analysts who think he is going to have another great college season still only have him going in the late 1st for what ever reason. Talent is talent, doesn't matter how short you are. Plenty of people in the NFL have proven that.
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Crazy thing is that the draft analysts who think he is going to have another great college season still only have him going in the late 1st for what ever reason. Talent is talent, doesn't matter how short you are. Plenty of people in the NFL have proven that.
Cant forget guys like Gerald "Ice Cube" McNeil,Flipper Anderson and Billy "White Shoes" Johnson who were small guys that did well...and how about Dino Hall...
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I would say we take the "Honey Badger".
this guy with the addition of LB and another DE would definitely give us a top ten defense. i got honey badger as our first pick next year. he can change a game in so many ways. saw him win the first alambama/lsu game last year almost single-handedly. blew my mind how good this dude is and throws his body around like a polamalu (except he's not gay.....just his nick name is).
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Tyrann Mathieu and Joe Haden would be an awesome combo in our secondary! Put Skrine or Patterson in the nickel spot with Ward and a yet to be named FS and we've legitimately got a top 5 secondary.
The only thing that I would say is that we may not need another DE, that is I'm hoping between the FA pickups and Benard that we already have our guy.
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Just like all the mock drafts suggest, my bet is we'll be drafting a DE with our first-rounder next year. Rucker is not the solution.
As for CB, my bet is the guy we took from ASU will be a competent nickel back.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
heckert and holmgren have a lot at stake with the outcome of their picks this year. heckert's free agent signings at DE better pan out which we then could address the defensive backfield first.
if ther are even sniffs of this year's draft picks being busts could be the last draft they ever see in the cleveland FO.
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I think there is a great chance we go D with our first pick next year. We could use a edge rusher, or OLB...and it never hurts to draft a corner high in the draft.
I'd have a top evaluator at pretty much every LSU game with a cross checker at about half of them. They have a top prospect at every defensive position of need, not to mention you are covering a good portion of the SEC as they play other teams.
I think there is a great chance we go D with our first pick next year. We could use a edge rusher, or OLB...and it never hurts to draft a corner high in the draft.
I'd have a top evaluator at pretty much every LSU game with a cross checker at about half of them. They have a top prospect at every defensive position of need, not to mention you are covering a good portion of the SEC as they play other teams.
So? Let's just draft a couple of LSU defenders? Sound about right? They could have 4-5 first rounders off their defense alone.
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