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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I am hearing Tony Rizzo stating that there are rumors that the Browns are in negotiationsmay have been sold by Lerner. Tony Grossi is also speculating on it.

    Edit: The buyers may be the guys that own the Flying J Travel stops. Haslett, or Haslim or somebody.

    Apparently, they are minority owners of the Steelers, but would sell that to become majority owners of the Browns.

    Ballpeen should be on top of this: these guys live in Knoxville, TN.

    Part of the motivation for Randy to sell may be that Mrs. Lerner, Al's wife, Randy's mother's situation may have something to do with it.

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    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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    @the-gipper said:

    I am hearing Tony Rizzo stating that there are rumors that the Browns may have been sold by Lerner. Tony Grossi is also speculating on it.

    Good or bad? Not sure?

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      Wikipedia link to Haslam family

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Haslam

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        thenew23T thenew23 wrote on last edited by
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        Lerner's statemen about "investment"

        I could be wrong. It sounds like this is something that may happen... sooner rather than later

        #Justsayin'
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          @thenew23 said:

          Last I heard (2 days ago), this was all speculation and is nowhere near true per Lerner.

          I'd be okay with the sell as long as they didn't liquidate Holmgren's position and try to re-start AGAIN in the FO. We are starting to see some smart decisions develop and I believe H&H deserve 3 more years to see if their moves result in wins. Just my opinion.

          Long-term; however, I would love to see a different owner.

          Lerner put out a press release confirming that he has entered into negotiations with Jimmy Haslam III to buy the team. He didn't say a deal was done, just that negotiation have begun.

          There may be an Ohio connection in that I think Pilot Flying J is in a partnership with Marathon Oil Co., which is an Ohio company.

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            Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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            Dump the soccer fag and let a real business man take the reigns.

            Zombo

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              Dump the soccer fag and let a real business man take the reigns.

              Zombo

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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              Zombo said:

              Dump the soccer fag and let a real business man take the reigns.

              Zombo

              Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

              Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

              Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

              Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

              The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

              Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

              Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

              Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

              Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

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              • The GipperT The Gipper

                Zombo said:

                Dump the soccer fag and let a real business man take the reigns.

                Zombo

                Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

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                djdawg2010D djdawg2010 wrote on last edited by
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                @the-gipper said:

                Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

                Just don't move the team again! Though I doubt NFL would let that happen again.

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                  Zombo said:

                  Dump the soccer fag and let a real business man take the reigns.

                  Zombo

                  Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                  Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                  Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                  Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                  The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                  Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                  Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                  Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                  Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

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                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                  Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                  Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                  Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                  The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                  Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                  Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                  Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                  Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

                  Donald Trump was born into wealth too, it's not how much money you have, it is what you do with it.

                  Lerner has done nothing. He sold everything and/or took a nominal position with everything his dad gave him. He has owned an NFL franchise and has somehow gone a decade without making the playoffs while making some mediocre coaches very rich. He bought a gay-ass soccer team, and it appears his passion is with the eurofags and not the football team he grew up rooting for.

                  He's the little preppy dweeb in high school you want to bitch slap.

                  Jimmy Haslem looks like he has balls.

                  And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                  Zombo

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                    Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                    Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                    Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                    The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                    Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                    Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                    Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                    Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

                    Donald Trump was born into wealth too, it's not how much money you have, it is what you do with it.

                    Lerner has done nothing. He sold everything and/or took a nominal position with everything his dad gave him. He has owned an NFL franchise and has somehow gone a decade without making the playoffs while making some mediocre coaches very rich. He bought a gay-ass soccer team, and it appears his passion is with the eurofags and not the football team he grew up rooting for.

                    He's the little preppy dweeb in high school you want to bitch slap.

                    Jimmy Haslem looks like he has balls.

                    And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                    Zombo

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                    Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President wrote on last edited by
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                    Zombo said:

                    And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                    I didn't know they sold gay porn there.

                    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12
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                      Zombo said:

                      And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                      I didn't know they sold gay porn there.

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                      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                      @kosar_for_president said:

                      I didn't know they sold gay porn there.

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                        Zombo said:

                        And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                        I didn't know they sold gay porn there.

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                        @kosar_for_president said:

                        I didn't know they sold gay porn there.

                        Oh. Snap.

                        Z

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          it may be a good thing from the standpoint of someone actually putting their heart and soul into the team (not saying lerner didn't, it's just he didn't grow up with real football) but it might also mean that here we go with the 'tear it all down and start over'. if anything, these guys sound like they know football and how to run a team by learning from our arch nemesis, the steelers, who i'll dare say know continuity and personnel. here comes more evaluation years, but i doubt if they would need a team 'president' to shore up the situation.

                          see ya holmy!

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                            This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                            Who would want this guy as our owner? (except the kool-aid drinkers here) Are there are no Cleveland people who want the team?

                            This is owner that has no ties to Cleveland. If the team makes money, he will be fine.

                            Last year he didn't care about the Browns. Now he is going to own them.

                            Anyone that thinks this is a positive thing just doesn't understand.

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                              1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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                              Off to LA!

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                                This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                Who would want this guy as our owner? (except the kool-aid drinkers here) Are there are no Cleveland people who want the team?

                                This is owner that has no ties to Cleveland. If the team makes money, he will be fine.

                                Last year he didn't care about the Browns. Now he is going to own them.

                                Anyone that thinks this is a positive thing just doesn't understand.

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                                S Silverback wrote on last edited by
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                                The Soldier said:

                                This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                Who would want this guy as our owner?

                                Just making the Steelers owning of the Browns a little more official.

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  Well, I am not sure that Jim Haslam III is any bigger/better a businessman than Randy Lerner. He, like Randy took over operation of a company that his Dad built.

                                  Also, if wealth is a criteria, the Top 5 wealthiest people in Ohio are in order:

                                  Leslie Wexner, Clayton Mathile, Randy Lerner, Norma Lerner, Nancy Lerner. Combining the Lerner family would give you the #1 overall wealthiest family and are multi-billionaires (and FYI, it IS the Lerner family that owns the Browns, not Randy alone. Randy just runs it for the family).

                                  Jim Haslam III is "only" the 14th wealthiest person in Tennessee, with about an 800 mill. net worth.

                                  The good thing is that in the NFL with the salary cap, shared revenues etc. the worth of the ownership is basically irrelevent. The Steelers are the current Rooney families only business, and they seem to run that organization fairly well. I suspect that other than their team ownership the Rooney's net worth pales compared to Lerner or even Haslam.

                                  Where money counts is: Baseball. It would be far better for Lerner to buy the Indians from the Dolans and put his wealth behind that team instead of the current skinflints that own it.

                                  Only thing is I am not sure how much Randy cares about baseball.

                                  Zombo may be right, Randy may want to put his Browns money into his soccer team.

                                  Who knows. If he sells the Browns Randy can go fuck off and do whatever he wants.

                                  Donald Trump was born into wealth too, it's not how much money you have, it is what you do with it.

                                  Lerner has done nothing. He sold everything and/or took a nominal position with everything his dad gave him. He has owned an NFL franchise and has somehow gone a decade without making the playoffs while making some mediocre coaches very rich. He bought a gay-ass soccer team, and it appears his passion is with the eurofags and not the football team he grew up rooting for.

                                  He's the little preppy dweeb in high school you want to bitch slap.

                                  Jimmy Haslem looks like he has balls.

                                  And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                                  Zombo

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  Zombo said:

                                  Donald Trump was born into wealth too, it's not how much money you have, it is what you do with it.

                                  Lerner has done nothing. He sold everything and/or took a nominal position with everything his dad gave him. He has owned an NFL franchise and has somehow gone a decade without making the playoffs while making some mediocre coaches very rich. He bought a gay-ass soccer team, and it appears his passion is with the eurofags and not the football team he grew up rooting for.

                                  He's the little preppy dweeb in high school you want to bitch slap.

                                  Jimmy Haslem looks like he has balls.

                                  And I bought a great porno mag at one of those Flying J things once.

                                  Zombo

                                  OK, well, you may very well be correct. Perhaps we shall see.

                                  And no, for whomever asked, Haslam would have no interest in moving to team. To where? Knoxville? Hardly. The NFL will never again allow the Browns to be moved. At least, not in our lifetimes.

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                                    1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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                                    Let the record show. Zombo likes Haslem's balls.

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                                    • C Captain Cheesedick

                                      This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                      Who would want this guy as our owner? (except the kool-aid drinkers here) Are there are no Cleveland people who want the team?

                                      This is owner that has no ties to Cleveland. If the team makes money, he will be fine.

                                      Last year he didn't care about the Browns. Now he is going to own them.

                                      Anyone that thinks this is a positive thing just doesn't understand.

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      The Soldier said:

                                      This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                      Who would want this guy as our owner? (except the kool-aid drinkers here) Are there are no Cleveland people who want the team?

                                      This is owner that has no ties to Cleveland. If the team makes money, he will be fine.

                                      Last year he didn't care about the Browns. Now he is going to own them.

                                      Anyone that thinks this is a positive thing just doesn't understand.

                                      I would bet you that he is a 1000% fan of wherever his money is. I heard he was a Cowboy fan, but when the Art Rooney sons and brothers decided to get out of football in favor of their racing and casino operations, Dan and Art II needed to bring in an investor to help pay off his brothers, and that is when they brought in Haslam apparently to take on a minority piece of the action and cash out those other Rooneys.

                                      Now, it seems that Haslam has gotten a taste of the NFL action and likes it and has decided that he would like to be the Big Dog in the room, not just a puppy. So when he heard about the ambivalence of Randy toward his ownership of the Browns he apparently decided to pounce and try to buy the Browns.

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                                        This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                        Who would want this guy as our owner? (except the kool-aid drinkers here) Are there are no Cleveland people who want the team?

                                        This is owner that has no ties to Cleveland. If the team makes money, he will be fine.

                                        Last year he didn't care about the Browns. Now he is going to own them.

                                        Anyone that thinks this is a positive thing just doesn't understand.

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                                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                                        The Soldier said:

                                        This guy has stated that he is "a Steeler fan 1000%"

                                        Ok ... I'm out.

                                        Let's hope Lerner sells them to someone else.

                                        No soccer fags or Steeler fans.

                                        Zombo

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                                          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                          Haslam has been a minority investor in the Pittsburgh Steelers and in a 2010 profile told the team's Steelers.com Web site that he had been a Dallas Cowboys and then an Indianapolis Colts fan. But with Pittsburgh investment, Haslam said he had become ''1,000 percent a Steelers fan.''

                                          Haslam and his wife donated $10 million to the University of Tennessee for scholarship and faculty programs.

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                                          Per the above the only real passion the guy has is for UT. If he was at one time a Cowboy/Colt/Steeler fan obviously he is only following his money.

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