Ice-T
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The whole point is that our government is set up to create change WITHOUT violence...
Quaint.
WSS
Quaint.
WSS
Oh and it's better that whatever political ideology that isn't in power talk about saving up guns and ammo and fighting the government for their rights and there being scary times ahead etc etc
Sure, my post may not be the actual way things always work, but it's better than Cal's "fantasy," land.
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The Constitution and the Bill of Rights is still in effect and reigns over all, it is the law of the land.
Progressive liberals have masturbated the definitions over the last century and if some had it their way they would trash it and burn it. If you ask a prog if the ends justify the means I am sure they would agree whole heartedly.
Case and point just look at how many people will vote for a politician who pledges to bring them free shit. These same people will vote away our rights in the name of so called fairness. If you have read the Constitution you will know that in the beginning it states
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
So why would you want to discard this important document? Is it in your view that some people should have more special rights than others? Lets say minorities, are they more important in your view than the average Joe? some people believe that is true and that they need to be lifted up.
We still have dummies who have been brought up believing that we are a democratic nation when in fact we are a republic. Maybe you guys should stop listening to the main stream and go back and educate yourselves before you start making statements that are not true. You can start HERE
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Sorry, Steve, but you are "kiddieing" yourself.
Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are timeless, and worth fighting for.
What other country has become a great nation in such a short time?
None. Not one. And our country did it with our Constitution and our Bill of Rights
as not only a guide, but an engine to the future, with our rights intact.
In worldly terms, they aren't even old.
"Don't Tread on Me" is an old admonition. But it's hardly "archaic".
Millions and millions of Americans believe that. Our freedom guarantees
are outdated?
Nope. Never, ever going to be. And if our Constitution and Bill of Rights is ever "cancelled"?
Not allowed to happen. "kickass" isn't archaic either. That's what our patriot freedom fighters did ...
and what we are allowed to do too, as a last resort, to protect ourselves from the ultimate tyranny.
Sorry, Steve, but you are "kiddieing" yourself.
Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are timeless, and worth fighting for.
What other country has become a great nation in such a short time?
None. Not one. And our country did it with our Constitution and our Bill of Rights
as not only a guide, but an engine to the future, with our rights intact.
In worldly terms, they aren't even old.
"Don't Tread on Me" is an old admonition. But it's hardly "archaic".
Millions and millions of Americans believe that. Our freedom guarantees
are outdated?
Nope. Never, ever going to be. And if our Constitution and Bill of Rights is ever "cancelled"?
Not allowed to happen. "kickass" isn't archaic either. That's what our patriot freedom fighters did ...
and what we are allowed to do too, as a last resort, to protect ourselves from the ultimate tyranny.
Amen, perfectly put (did I just say that?)
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Well good thing nothing has changed in 200 years...
And if you must "revolt" do it with pistols, not AKs
Just pointing out the fact that it's time toSTFU about our rights.
Left or right admit it kiddies, the constitution and bill of rights are archaic.
WSS
Just pointing out the fact that it's time toSTFU about our rights.
Left or right admit it kiddies, the constitution and bill of rights are archaic.
WSS
Wow your point of view is disturbing.
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Yeah
it's much better to think that this document created hundreds of years ago still applies perfectly to our life today.
Even though it can be amended and us supposed to be, let's not do that
Let's pretend muskets are the pinnacle of gun tech and the Internet doesn't exist.
I mean hell if you can believe the Bible this is child's play
(yep, I had to take a shot at the Bible)
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Yeah
it's much better to think that this document created hundreds of years ago still applies perfectly to our life today.
Even though it can be amended and us supposed to be, let's not do that
Let's pretend muskets are the pinnacle of gun tech and the Internet doesn't exist.
I mean hell if you can believe the Bible this is child's play
(yep, I had to take a shot at the Bible)
Yeah
it's much better to think that this document created hundreds of years ago still applies perfectly to our life today.
Even though it can be amended and us supposed to be, let's not do that
Let's pretend muskets are the pinnacle of gun tech and the Internet doesn't exist.
I mean hell if you can believe the Bible this is child's play
(yep, I had to take a shot at the Bible)
well I mean after all they were using state of the art weapons at the time military grade everything. But what about those silly rights like the ability to say as you wish, freedom of the press all of those are out of date too, right? come on the point is silly if the document is out of date then all of it is.
Just admit you don't like guns rather than trying to jam your viewpoint down everyone elses throat. the left really cries about the right doing it with abortion and gay rights so why does that argument not apply here?
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The Soviets had superior weapons in Afghanistan.
The Germans had superior weapons all over - read up on the French Resistance.
You don't EVER want to be the UN and try to come in and take our little old shotguns, rifles and pistols, and our Constitution and Bill of Rights
in our U.S.A.
Or, UN, we will toss skunks into your tanks and cockpits. We'll torture the tires of your jeeps with cigarette lighters and pen knives.
We'll stuff cowpoop up the mufflers of your cars. We'll dig ditches across your runways. We'll pee in your blue foreign helmets....
We'll toss ticks into your sleeping bags and tents. We'll put sugar into your UN truck gas tanks.....
We'll turn all our stereoes up on the street and play Madonna music at ear piecing levels until you run for your lives to Mexico or some other country overseas.
And, UN, we will make you cry and sneeze in your direction until you run for your sanity.
Don't Tread on Us.
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Yeah
it's much better to think that this document created hundreds of years ago still applies perfectly to our life today.
Even though it can be amended and us supposed to be, let's not do that
Let's pretend muskets are the pinnacle of gun tech and the Internet doesn't exist.
I mean hell if you can believe the Bible this is child's play
(yep, I had to take a shot at the Bible)
well I mean after all they were using state of the art weapons at the time military grade everything. But what about those silly rights like the ability to say as you wish, freedom of the press all of those are out of date too, right? come on the point is silly if the document is out of date then all of it is.
Just admit you don't like guns rather than trying to jam your viewpoint down everyone elses throat. the left really cries about the right doing it with abortion and gay rights so why does that argument not apply here?
well I mean after all they were using state of the art weapons at the time military grade everything. But what about those silly rights like the ability to say as you wish, freedom of the press all of those are out of date too, right? come on the point is silly if the document is out of date then all of it is.
Just admit you don't like guns rather than trying to jam your viewpoint down everyone elses throat. the left really cries about the right doing it with abortion and gay rights so why does that argument not apply here?
There is no good reason to keep gays from getting married
Same with abortion up to a point
No one wants to take all of the guns, just the ridiculous ones no one needs
What crazy world do you live in where if I say part of the constitution is out if date that means ALL of it is. Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Even if we rewrote the whole thing those rights and freedoms would return. Others would be updated for the 21st century. Idk how you can think everything I'm that document is timeless...
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well I mean after all they were using state of the art weapons at the time military grade everything. But what about those silly rights like the ability to say as you wish, freedom of the press all of those are out of date too, right? come on the point is silly if the document is out of date then all of it is.
Just admit you don't like guns rather than trying to jam your viewpoint down everyone elses throat. the left really cries about the right doing it with abortion and gay rights so why does that argument not apply here?
There is no good reason to keep gays from getting married
Same with abortion up to a point
No one wants to take all of the guns, just the ridiculous ones no one needs
What crazy world do you live in where if I say part of the constitution is out if date that means ALL of it is. Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Even if we rewrote the whole thing those rights and freedoms would return. Others would be updated for the 21st century. Idk how you can think everything I'm that document is timeless...
There is no good reason to keep gays from getting married
Same with abortion up to a point
No one wants to take all of the guns, just the ridiculous ones no one needs
What crazy world do you live in where if I say part of the constitution is out if date that means ALL of it is. Slippery slope arguments are stupid. Even if we rewrote the whole thing those rights and freedoms would return. Others would be updated for the 21st century. Idk how you can think everything I'm that document is timeless...
no one wants to ban all of the marriages just the gay(ridiculous in the context of your arguement) ones.
but you and I both know that banning one set of guns just moves on to the next group of "ridiculous ones" until none are left look at the UK, and look Australia same thing will happen here it never stops at just one.
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I don't think we should get rid of pistols and the like. I wouldn't campaign for that.
Your first attempt at satire or a joke or whatever there didn't really work. Of course they want to ban the gay ones, that's the point.
I still see no reason to ban gay marriage.
We just have people desperately grasping onto their religious views that are, luckily, being eroded every day.
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Woody, we've already listed the reasons to ban the phoney gay "marriage" fiasco.
It rewrites what's normal and accepted as healthy family structure. Nobody anywhere, thinks
that real marriage is offensive.
Most people, the vast majority, figure that gay "marriage" is offensive, or at least unwise,
and ridiculous.
Sometimes I think that the whole gay "married" thing is just an inferior way of compensating
for depression, and a self-deprecating attempted blow toward the way real things are and should be.
The valid status quo of America. And any gun control is just a step in the direction libs want to go.
Sneak a "simple" 100 round limit on magazines. Then make it 25. Then make it 8. Then make it 0.
Define assualt weaspons as "Ak's" and "AR's" etc. Then define it as semi auto shotguns that shoot more than two shots.
Then define it as any semi auto with two shots. Then define it as any bolt action with any magazine, or tube.
Then define it as any gun.
Because you can't subjugate a society with guns, you can't frighten and overrun home owners, and prey on the innocent Americans anytime, any place.
It's the last line of defense against tyranny. Ask any citizen who lived through the nazi occupation of their country.
Ask citizens in countries where all guns are outlawed.
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Lol the definition of marriage has changed tons of times through history. Go read your bible. Look at the definitions in their.
Also, find me a poll where "the vast majority" finds gay marriage offensive. I'm pretty sure the majority are pro gay marriage. It's just a matter of time until it's passed and the norm
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"lol"
no, Adam Eve. Man Woman. Never changed.
Never was homosexual. Never.
And, I don't know if I can find a poll to show it. Didn't say I could. In my life experience, that's my estimation.
A poll is just an indicator of ...something; "should be legal" <> "offensive, perverted"
I figure most polls reflect the confusion between "civil unions" and "marriage".
It will never be the norm Only 1-3 % are gay. Hardly half? of those would consider something so stupid
as "marriage". Tyranny of the extreme minority is hardly the "norm" that will ever happen.
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It's not a tyranny of the minority if the majority agree with it....
Also, using Adam and Eve to make a point basically throws away any if your credibility, lol. I guess you think hundreds of years on incest is normal too? And talking snakes? And fitting millions upon millions of sketches of animals on a man made boat? Lol ok.
Bible definition means if you rake a virgin you pay her dad and are forced to marry her. Did you due and leave your wife a widow? She's now your bros wife
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I don't think we should get rid of pistols and the like. I wouldn't campaign for that.
Your first attempt at satire or a joke or whatever there didn't really work. Of course they want to ban the gay ones, that's the point.
I still see no reason to ban gay marriage.
We just have people desperately grasping onto their religious views that are, luckily, being eroded every day.
I don't think we should get rid of pistols and the like. I wouldn't campaign for that.
Your first attempt at satire or a joke or whatever there didn't really work. Of course they want to ban the gay ones, that's the point.
I still see no reason to ban gay marriage.
We just have people desperately grasping onto their religious views that are, luckily, being eroded every day.
That is the point its not satire. I am just changing around the argument, you say we just want to ban the "ridiculous" guns, the right says we just want to ban the "ridiculous" marriages. if you can argue one way you can argue the other. personally I think the the government has no business in marriage whatsoever but that just ticks off both sides.
also you do know that pistols are responsible for more deaths than rifles correct? and that cities like DC and Chicago with strict handgun bans are places where you are more likely to die by one?
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Well we'll never ban guns completely, so it makes no sense to try.
Why do you think gay marriages are ridiculous? You argument revolves around the Bible and tradition. Not very compelling.... That's usually the type of arguments that dismesbt hold its ground for very long. Especially as religion works its way out of society as we become more educated
the earth is so the center of the universe and the sun revolves around us...
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Well we'll never ban guns completely, so it makes no sense to try.
Why do you think gay marriages are ridiculous? You argument revolves around the Bible and tradition. Not very compelling.... That's usually the type of arguments that dismesbt hold its ground for very long. Especially as religion works its way out of society as we become more educated
the earth is so the center of the universe and the sun revolves around us...
Well we'll never ban guns completely, so it makes no sense to try.
Why do you think gay marriages are ridiculous? You argument revolves around the Bible and tradition. Not very compelling.... That's usually the type of arguments that dismesbt hold its ground for very long. Especially as religion works its way out of society as we become more educated
the earth is so the center of the universe and the sun revolves around us...
I don't think gay marriages are ridiculous I am simply taking your subjective non-point and rewording it as a right wing anti gay viewpoint. I am taking your point of view, ( no one needs a gun of insert your opinion here) and simply substituting in a viewpoint that you disagree with( gays don't get to marry). your subjective point has as much validity as an anti gay marriage point. At least the anti gay marriage community can make claims at first amendment abuses when the government forces gay marriage being that marriage is a religious institution. Meanwhile the anti gun crowd is fighting to remove constitutional rights rather than protect them.
I stated that I believe NO marriages have a place in government at all. marriage being a religious institution should not be regulated by government and should have all traces of it removed. let the churches have their way with it I care not.
please note that I am an atheist. just not the annoying in your face proselytizing kind I just nothing religion.
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Lol, religious institution. If that were true you think more couples would take it more seriously.
If that were the case, only one religion would need to be fine with gay marriage and then they're golden.
You reversal of those points really doesn't make sense though. There are different levels of guns as far as lethally and killing power goes. Marriage is marriage and there are just some people but hurt about gays having equal rights. (ok, marriage isn't a right). There aren't different tiers of marriage.
Like I said, no good reasons for stopping gays from getting married.
Guns have evolved over the years. They become more powerful than our founding fathers could gave imagined. Marriage is still marriage.
It would be restricting your amendment in the sense you could still keep and bear arms just not enough to take out a small army. Allowing gay marriage is giving more rights to a group of citizens.
At least if you are an atheist I won't have to worry about you quoting the Bible or bringing up god when we argue.
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Lol, religious institution. If that were true you think more couples would take it more seriously.
If that were the case, only one religion would need to be fine with gay marriage and then they're golden.
You reversal of those points really doesn't make sense though. There are different levels of guns as far as lethally and killing power goes. Marriage is marriage and there are just some people but hurt about gays having equal rights. (ok, marriage isn't a right). There aren't different tiers of marriage.
Like I said, no good reasons for stopping gays from getting married.
Guns have evolved over the years. They become more powerful than our founding fathers could gave imagined. Marriage is still marriage.
It would be restricting your amendment in the sense you could still keep and bear arms just not enough to take out a small army. Allowing gay marriage is giving more rights to a group of citizens.
At least if you are an atheist I won't have to worry about you quoting the Bible or bringing up god when we argue.
Lol, religious institution. If that were true you think more couples would take it more seriously.
If that were the case, only one religion would need to be fine with gay marriage and then they're golden.
You reversal of those points really doesn't make sense though. There are different levels of guns as far as lethally and killing power goes. Marriage is marriage and there are just some people but hurt about gays having equal rights. (ok, marriage isn't a right). There aren't different tiers of marriage.
Like I said, no good reasons for stopping gays from getting married.
Guns have evolved over the years. They become more powerful than our founding fathers could gave imagined. Marriage is still marriage.
It would be restricting your amendment in the sense you could still keep and bear arms just not enough to take out a small army. Allowing gay marriage is giving more rights to a group of citizens.
At least if you are an atheist I won't have to worry about you quoting the Bible or bringing up god when we argue.
look the religious can be as hypocritical as they want. don't care it's a religious matter they can have it.
All I am stating is that you are trying to make a point in almost the same fashion that they are. you are saying I don't think you need that and then trying to take something away using your opinion as the reason why. handguns are by far the leader in murders and typically of young male minorities typically gang and drug related. rifles are rarely used in crimes so your point is simply an opinion based on nothing. and rifles do absolutely serve a purpose including that of defending yourself if needed from our own government the founding fathers were using military weapons and forces to overthrow a government. They did not limit themselves to only knives or only blunderbuss' they were using as good as or better(Kentucky rifles)equipment as the British army.
Military weapons in the hands of civilians and state militias was the intent of the 2nd amendment. saying they thought otherwise or its different now is just nonsense, as much nonsense as saying that freedom of speech doesn't apply now because they did not know about the internet.
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It's not that they don't apply anymore, I never said they didn't apply. It's outdated. We obviously are keeping freedom of speech. Some things could just be updated for the 21st century.
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