Official 2012 Training Camp Report Thread
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U even keeping up?
That was monday....
no guess not. sorry i don't sit inside a satellite booth beaming browns training camp info directly into your 'most informed cleveland browns fan' management booth. but if you have anything new you'd like to add that'd be great.
until then i guess you can be the same condescending asshole that you have come to be.
do your boyfriend and me a favor and switch to non-caffeinated coffee and go back to blowin spliffs.
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Id apologize, but ur baiting mik. Problem is, u type shit without knowing what ur talking about.
While u dwell on a couple picks weeden threw in practice, you missed an entire camp day where the offense....colt included....tore it up.
But keep dwelling on a few bad passes to help your colt flame burning.
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I for one love the reports being posted from camp, especially being so far from the action. Keep up the good work fellas.
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Browns training camp: news, notes and observations from practice
By Nate Ulrich Published: August 1, 2012
Quarterback Colt McCoy, the incumbent starter, spoke to the media for the first time since training camp started last week.
“You guys never ask for me,” McCoy told reporters. “I miss you guys.”
Yes, rookie Brandon Weeden has replaced McCoy in more than one way. Not only is Weeden taking the snaps with the first-team offense and in line to be named the starter in the near future, but he and running back Trent Richardson are also frequently propped in front of cameras as the faces of the Browns’ revamped offense.
McCoy is clearly no longer the Browns’ guy like he was a year ago, when he entered camp as the No. 1 quarterback
“Well, that doesn’t mean you don’t come out and compete and make yourself better,” McCoy said. “I’ve taken all snaps with the second group, and I’m still competing. That’s what I’m supposed to do, and I think that’s making our football team better.”
McCoy and Weeden completed several touchdown passes today during red-zone drills. Free safety Usama Young intercepted a pass from McCoy in a session of seven-on-seven, but Shurmur said McCoy has shown improvement during his second year in the West Coast offense.
“Colt’s doing great,” Shurmur said. “I think he’s continuing to improve. I’m seeing him do things in this camp that he didn’t do a year ago, and he’s getting more comfortable within our system and he’s coming to work every day and working hard. I think he’s doing a good job.
“I just think he’s more comfortable in the progressions. If it doesn’t go to No. 1 or No. 2, he’s throwing it to 3 instead of taking off and running. Those types of things -- commanding the huddle, knowing what his receivers can do and where he can put the football.”
Still, McCoy’s future has been enveloped by uncertainty. He could be moved at some point during the preseason.
“I can’t control anything other than coming out here and getting better,” McCoy said.
Standing out
One of McCoy’s touchdown passes was caught by rookie wide receiver Travis Benjamin. The 5-foot-10, 175-pound Benjamin reached in front of defensive back Emanuel Davis and grabbed the pass in the front corner of the end zone.
“Even though I might be small in size, I’ve been playing football ever since I was young. Mostly all the guys have been bigger than me, so I’ve just gotta keep that mindset that I’ve gotta play big.
“That’s all a part of football – being physical. There’s not one player on the field that’s not physical. Every play is contact, so I’m used to it. I’m more than just a fast guy.”
Shurmur agrees. Benjamin’s performance has stood out since the Browns began practicing in pads on Sunday.
“I anticipated with his natural size that he might get banged around and be less efficient, but he’s done a great job,” Shurmur said. “I think he handles the traffic pretty well, and you could see today he caught the ball in contested situations extremely well. We knew he had the skill and ability to play in this league, and at least to this point, he’s doing a good job of improving his game.”
After the Browns drafted Benjamin in the fourth round (100th overall) in April, Shurmur said he thought Benjamin could become a significant contributor as a rookie. Even though the Browns drafted rookie wide receiver Josh Gordon in the second round of the supplemental draft on July 12, Shurmur can foresee Benjamin making an impact this year.
“Absolutely,” Shurmur said. “I think both of those guys [benjamin and Gordon], if they progress like they’re doing at the pace they’re going now, then I think they’ll be major contributors. Both those guys.”
Golden opportunity
Second-year tight end Jordan Cameron continued to shine. He caught touchdown passes from Weeden, McCoy and Seneca Wallace in red-zone drills.
Shurmur said Cameron will get ample opportunities to prove himself in preseason games.
“I think he needs to get lots of reps in the preseason games, and he will,” Shurmur said. “He’ll be a guy that can play the Y or the tight end position and then also the second tight end position in two-tight end sets. He’ll play quite a bit in the preseason for sure.”
Cameron has been working with the first-team offense in double-tight end sets while Evan Moore has been sidelined with an undisclosed injury.
Injury report
Frostee Rucker, the projected starter at right defensive end, missed practice with an undisclosed injury. Shurmur said it’s not serious.
“He won’t be out long,” Rucker said. “He missed today. He’s OK. We’ll evaluate him. He’ll be back soon.”
Moore, defensive tackles Ahtyba Rubin (pelvis) and Phil Taylor (pectoral muscle), fullback Eddie Williams (undisclosed), wide receiver Carlton Mitchell (leg) continued to sit out.
Shurmur said Moore will be back soon. He said Williams “probably won’t be out there for a while.”
Filling in
With Rubin out, defensive tackle Kiante Tripp took his spot with the first-team defense. Brian Schaefering filled that role in previous practices.
When asked what Tripp did to earn reps with the first unit, Shurmur said, “He maybe bought somebody lunch. I don’t know.”
Meanwhile, Marcus Benard replaced Rucker at right end with the first-team defense.
“He’s doing a good job,” Shurmur said of Benard. “He’s way further ahead this year than he was last year. Remember, he tried to put on a bunch of weight. In my opinion, it was not good weight based on his frame. He was in much better shape when he reported [to camp this year], and I think he’s doing a good job. Again, preseason games will be important for him as well.”
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Browns training camp: news, notes and observations from practice
By Nate Ulrich Published: August 1, 2012
Quarterback Colt McCoy, the incumbent starter, spoke to the media for the first time since training camp started last week.
“You guys never ask for me,” McCoy told reporters. “I miss you guys.”
This literally made me laugh out loud at work. I can just imagine a lil dejected Colt talking to the media saying that. If you want we can have your dad talk to the media about asking you more questions.
I'm joking, but the fact is he got his shot and was replaced by someone better. I for one would love to keep him around as the back-up because I know he's going to give it 110% even mostly sitting on the sidelines.
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Id apologize, but ur baiting mik. Problem is, u type shit without knowing what ur talking about.
While u dwell on a couple picks weeden threw in practice, you missed an entire camp day where the offense....colt included....tore it up.
But keep dwelling on a few bad passes to help your colt flame burning.
Id apologize, but ur baiting mik. Problem is, u type shit without knowing what ur talking about.
While u dwell on a couple picks weeden threw in practice, you missed an entire camp day where the offense....colt included....tore it up.
But keep dwelling on a few bad passes to help your colt flame burning.
that's why i come to this forum. to get info not available anywhere else. i'm not dwelling on a couple of picks weeden threw (because i didn't know who threw the picks) i was commenting on the subject because of the article about a LB i've never heard of doing good in camp. WTF? they glorified the kid saying how amazing he looks but no mention of weeden throwing bad passes or not knowing where the receiver was supposed to be etc. etc. i have no allegience to any ONE player on this team. sure i would throw a smart car through a wall if they ever tried to trade or fuck with haden or thomas but no ONE is bigger than the team. if weeden is the man....so be it. but believe you and me if it was mccoy who threw the ints it would an article within itself.
you can't get the fact wrapped around your little raisin of a mind that the only problem i had with the weeden pick is i thought it was a wasted pick, considering the 2+ years holmgren wasted on mccoy and his evaluation years. there wouldn't be another strong armed big 12 QB available next year who can trip over his own big clown shoes?
i don't care if we bring in oil can boyd, high as hell to throw the ball. just start winning games. until then i'll continue to voice my opinion and if you don't like it you can put me on ignore (pleez do) or shut the fuck up.
how does it feel though that YOUR man of the future who'll "build this team into a winner" is about to get booted out of cleveland where he can land somewhere in the northwest where the fish is nice and fresh and so clean? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hee hee.
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Training Camp Article From Grossi
http://espncleveland.com/commo...hp?m=49&post_id=2611
Return of the fade: I saw Brandon Weeden take a three-step drop inside the 20-yard line, float the artsiest pass an NFL quarterback can make to the left corner of the end zone, watched Josh Gordon soar above a defender, higher than I’ve seen a Browns receiver leap, snatch the ball in extremely large, soft hands attached to arms long as vines, and land his feet lightly in bounds – tap tap -- like an Olympic gymnast.
And I closed my eyes and I swear I heard the great Pat Summerall calling the play.
“Weeden. Gordon. Touchdown.”
I see this fade pass being unstoppable some day. Like it was at Oklahoma State for Weeden and Justin Blackmon. Twelve of the pair’s 39 career touchdowns as OSU teammates were perfectly-thrown Weeden lobs to Blackmon on the fade pass.
“Me and Blackmon just had a knack,” Weeden told me. “We never practiced it. We just went and I’d throw it to the back of the corner and he’d catch it. I’d throw to a spot, he’d use his body. It was like clockwork. It was easy for us.
Red zone hopes: Here’s the thing: Blackmon is 6-1 and 210 pounds with a 35-inch vertical jump. Gordon is 6-3, 225 pounds, with a 36-inch vertical. A Browns source told me the team evaluated Gordon as a better NFL receiver prospect than Blackmon, who was the fifth pick overall of the 2012 draft by Jacksonville.
“Gordon’s really good at it,” Weeden said of going up for the fade pass, or lob. “He’s bigger than Blackmon. So he can use his body to shield those guys off.”
Gordon said, “The fade route is something I had a lot of practice on, well, since middle school. I was the tallest wide receiver all the time, so (it’s) just go and get it.”
Having viewed an Oklahoma State-produced highlight video of every Weeden-to-Blackmon career touchdown play, I asked coach Pat Shurmur at the June minicamp if he was excited about the prospect of re-introducing the fade pass to the Browns’ red-zone play repertoire.
At the time, he said, “We tried to throw fades early in the (2011) year and we didn’t hit on them on a percentage high enough. The slant (pattern) means a lot more if (opponents) have to defend the fade, and in our offense we like to throw slants.”
Shurmur seemed to be saying that now that he had a quarterback who could execute the pass, yes, he’d love to revisit the option of the fade.
And that was before the arrival of Gordon.
Get it done: I contend that if an NFL team can’t execute a simple fade pass in the end zone, it can’t be competitive.
How many times in the last 10 years have we seen the Browns, stationed inside the opponent’s 20-yard line, throw short of the end zone? It is maddening, deflating and repulsive, really, to see dump-offs to backs or tight ends stopped short of the goal line time and time again. Three points instead of seven invariably means another loss is in the offing.
“I think the fade, you know, it can be a good play if you have a guy that is a mismatch size-wise or what-not,” Shurmur said. “It’s something I think is important to have in your red zone package, but from that standpoint, too, they can take that away and that’s why you have all of the route combinations.
“Just by his natural size, (Gordon) should have the potential to be a pretty good fade runner.”
I say practice it five minutes a day, minimum, and use it, and just dare defenses to stop it. When executed properly, the fade is a low-risk, high-reward little pass. The quarterback lofts the ball where only the receiver can catch it. The worst that can happen is an incompletion out of the end zone.
From what I saw on Wednesday, this should be a staple of the Browns’ red zone package.
Weeden. Gordon. Touchdown.
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thanks for your continued updates.
i won't comment any further as i might get flamed by choco.
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Training Camp Article From Grossi
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That's all I needed to read. Skipped out of the rest....@@
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Training Camp Article From Grossi
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That's all I needed to read. Skipped out of the rest....@@
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I love the statement in bold from our new owner.........This may be the break we have all been waiting for. God knows we deserve it!
"The Browns announced tonight owner Randy Lerner has agreed to sell a majority stake in the team to Jimmy Haslam, CEO of Pilot Flying J. The sale must be approved by the NFL
“This is a very exciting time for my family and me,” Haslam said in the news release. “To own such a storied franchise as the Cleveland Browns, with its rich tradition and history, is a dream come true. We are committed to keeping the team in Cleveland and seeing it get back to the elite of the NFL – something all Browns fans want and deserve. We plan to bring relentless dedication and hard work to every aspect of this organization, and we look forward to getting to know this team and community as quickly as possible. Our family is committed to becoming an integral part of the Cleveland community. We also want to thank Randy Lerner for his friendship, counsel and support during this process.”
Lerner released the following statement:
On behalf of my family and as trustee for the Lerner Family Trust, which holds the shares of the Cleveland Browns, I have agreed to sell the Browns to Jimmy Haslam and his family.
I was approached regarding Mr. Haslam’s interest several weeks ago. While as a fiduciary I have always felt it was my responsibility to listen to offers, I had not been approached with a proposal that felt as natural and complete as Mr. Haslam’s. He had done a lot of work on the Browns and the City of Cleveland and first and foremost gave me his personal assurance the team would remain in Cleveland.
As I was at first overwhelmed, I asked for a few days to consider the proposal during which time I consulted with my mother and sister. Over this short period we agreed that the proposal was strong, the buyers made sense and the time was right for us to move on.
Going forward, we anticipate that the League will meet and vote on the deal and the closing is expected to follow shortly thereafter. During this time the organization will operate as it has in the past with all senior executives in place.
While a statement like this is certainly part of the process, it couldn’t possibly capture my feelings towards the Browns and the many people whom I feel very strong about. Those feelings therefore will need to be expressed in person. Notwithstanding, I feel a deep debt of gratitude to the loyal and passionate fan base, as well as the people I’ve met and worked with over the years. It has been a privilege to be involved with the Cleveland Browns and my only hope is that the Haslam family has the best of luck and that the Browns are restored to their rightful place among NFL Champions."
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Just based off of what I am reading on Twitter today.
GOCONG HAS SERIOUS INJURY. Happened during goal line when Jordan Cameron was coming down from a catch. Thought Jordan landed on his leg but closer look to video suggests that Gocong was going down in pain before Jordan landed. Possible heel injury, more than likely a Achelies tear. Replacements are JMJ and Maivia.
Young LB depth still looking good beyong JMJ. LJ Fort and Craig Robertson are actually having good camps which is surprising. Craig Rovertson was a practice squad pick up in December last season. Fort is the supper athletic UDFA we picked up out of the Div 1 AA Northern Iowa.
Joe Haden having great day. Went up and had an INT against Wallace. Grabbed ball at the highest point of his jump with hand has extended as possible. True ball hawk play.
Skrine apparently blew Oneil Cousins (RT) right the fuck up on a run play, plastered him on his ass, and opened up the side to stop the play. Pciture that shit. 175 little Skrine blew up 320 RT Cousins. Got the defense all jacked up.
Watson is out today for whatever reason (didn't see why) and Jordan Cameron took over as the starting #1 TE. That is a great sign. On top of this I have been reading the Moore being out has really hurt him, likely that Cameron has permentally passed him on the depth chart or at least it is Camerons job to lose. Alex Smith isn't impressing but isn't looking like shit (could still be unplaced by Smelley but Smelley is getting most of his time in at FB during camp). Watson in previous days has actually looked fast and explosive off the line, a good sign considering his age. Surprisingly I have heard good things about Gronk. Aparently this guy can play. TE looks like the strongest position and come cut time hard decisions will have to be made.
Weeden and Cooper showing some of that chemistry we have been talking about. Cooper got a shot on 1st team in the slot and they connected with a perfect pass on a deep post pattern.
Ryan Miller is working with the 2nd team line, but he has been getting work at both LT and RT all of camp. Might finally have a true back LT on the team.
Sheard INT off of Fujita deflection. Look like he's going to get caught and then WOOOP hands off to TJ Ward for the TD.
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Thanks for the updates^^^^ hows is the other lb acho looking in camp?
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Thanks for the updates^^^^ hows is the other lb acho looking in camp?
Thanks for the updates^^^^ hows is the other lb acho looking in camp?
Haven't actually heard much about Acho, heard much more about Forts. Also a correction on Skrine knocking the shit out of Cousins. Apparently Skrine just showed balls and took him head on during a blitz attempt and got knocked backwards. Apparently everyone still got jacked up about it though.
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Offense wilting in heat as 33 sits
By Steve Doerschuk
I wondered if Montario Hardesty was feeling extra pressure by the way he responded on a certain play.
Hardesty is the No. 1 back today, with Trent Richardson confined to the exercise bike. There is some sort of wrap on Richardson's left leg, but we don't have an inkling yet what the problem is.
Anyway, Hardesty has had two fitful years since getting picked in the second round, and he has seemed beyond eager to make something of 2012.
It has been easier for him to relax knowing that he is projected for a bit-player role — though an important one — behind the No. 3 overall pick.
The mental landscape changes if Richardson is out for any length of time.
Durin an 11-on-11 drill several minutes ago, Hardesty seemed frustrated. He let his feelings out on a simple swing pass from Brandon Weeden. He took an angle to the sideline that allowed the defense to swarm around him. He let out an arrrrgggggghhhhhh, or whatever would amount to his version of Steve the Pirate on a tough day.
We're all ears as we wait to hear what's up with Richardson.
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Nolan Cromwell is coaching up the receivers, as he always does.
Rookie Josh Gordon sort of set the tone for the day — lots and lots of dropped balls in this session — when he couldn't hang on to a simple pass over the middle during a drill with no defense.
"Follow the point (of the ball) all the way in," Cromwell said.
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Brandon Weeden looks OK so far in today's session. Don't blame the drops on him today.
Even his focus isn't quite all there, though. He fumbled a center snap in his last set.
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Weeden keeps throwing a pretty deep ball.
In one drill, he dropped back to close to midfield and looked effortless in flicking a throw to Greg Little in the back of the end zone — more than 50 yards in the air, right on the money, hitting Little in stride.
That one drew lots of oohs from the crowd ... another big crowd today.
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Hall of Fame Executive Director Steve Perry is in the training camp crowd. Steve asked us about prospects for the season, saying he detects reasons for optimism in our material.
Steve always seems upbeat and full of energy ... even in the wake of his most important weekend of the year. Great representative for the Hall.
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Tony Grossi is back this year as this region's Hall of Fame voter. Perry and Grossi chatted a bit by a white picket fence near the practice fields.
I told Steve he must have had to give Tony quite a raise to get him back.
"Doubled his salary," Perry said.
The voters aren't paid for their trouble.
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Offense wilting in heat as 33 sits
By Steve Doerschuk
I wondered if Montario Hardesty was feeling extra pressure by the way he responded on a certain play.
Hardesty is the No. 1 back today, with Trent Richardson confined to the exercise bike. There is some sort of wrap on Richardson's left leg, but we don't have an inkling yet what the problem is.
Anyway, Hardesty has had two fitful years since getting picked in the second round, and he has seemed beyond eager to make something of 2012.
It has been easier for him to relax knowing that he is projected for a bit-player role — though an important one — behind the No. 3 overall pick.
The mental landscape changes if Richardson is out for any length of time.
Durin an 11-on-11 drill several minutes ago, Hardesty seemed frustrated. He let his feelings out on a simple swing pass from Brandon Weeden. He took an angle to the sideline that allowed the defense to swarm around him. He let out an arrrrgggggghhhhhh, or whatever would amount to his version of Steve the Pirate on a tough day.
We're all ears as we wait to hear what's up with Richardson.
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Nolan Cromwell is coaching up the receivers, as he always does.
Rookie Josh Gordon sort of set the tone for the day — lots and lots of dropped balls in this session — when he couldn't hang on to a simple pass over the middle during a drill with no defense.
"Follow the point (of the ball) all the way in," Cromwell said.
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Brandon Weeden looks OK so far in today's session. Don't blame the drops on him today.
Even his focus isn't quite all there, though. He fumbled a center snap in his last set.
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Weeden keeps throwing a pretty deep ball.
In one drill, he dropped back to close to midfield and looked effortless in flicking a throw to Greg Little in the back of the end zone — more than 50 yards in the air, right on the money, hitting Little in stride.
That one drew lots of oohs from the crowd ... another big crowd today.
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Hall of Fame Executive Director Steve Perry is in the training camp crowd. Steve asked us about prospects for the season, saying he detects reasons for optimism in our material.
Steve always seems upbeat and full of energy ... even in the wake of his most important weekend of the year. Great representative for the Hall.
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Tony Grossi is back this year as this region's Hall of Fame voter. Perry and Grossi chatted a bit by a white picket fence near the practice fields.
I told Steve he must have had to give Tony quite a raise to get him back.
"Doubled his salary," Perry said.
The voters aren't paid for their trouble.
Rookie Josh Gordon sort of set the tone for the day — lots and lots of dropped balls in this session — when he couldn't hang on to a simple pass over the middle during a drill with no defense.
Sounds like he's fitting in quite nicely with our receivers. Good to hear the tradition dropping passes continues on.
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I am a coach for a prominent 18u SoCal softball team, and the one thing that I have learned in 12yrs of coaching, is sometimes, practices just suck. The same team that goes 5-0 in tourneys and looks great in practice one day, can, and will, look terrible in another day of practice. Hopefully, this was just 'one of those days' and is much ado about nothing..........But yea I hear ya......Catch the damn ball.
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Position battles: With middle linebacker D’Qwell Jackson sidelined with an undisclosed injury, Benjamin Jacobs filled his spot for the first-team defense.
Who stood out: Safety Ray Ventrone picked off two passes (one after fullback Brad Smelley slipped and another off an overthrow from quarterback Thaddeus Lewis) late in practice during 11-on-11s with unscripted plays. ... Wide receiver Rod Windsor and Colt McCoy connected on four passes, one of which went for a touchdown in seven-on-sevens. Windsor caught two more balls Wednesday night.
Highs and lows: Adding to Ventrone’s two interceptions were Dimitri Patterson, Buster Skrine and Antwuan Reed, who all added a pick of their own in the last segment of practice. Brandon Weeden was first intercepted by Skrine on a 10-yard out route and later by Patterson. ... Defensive back Reed broke up three passes and then intercepted McCoy after he took the ball out of Windsor’s hands. ... Wide receiver Josh Gordon had two drops — one of which would have been a touchdown in seven-on-sevens from Weeden. He also was unable to come down with a third pass in the back of the end zone from McCoy. ... Evan Moore made the play of the night in bringing down a pass from McCoy with a one-handed catch in the back of the end zone with a defender draped over him.
Sidelined: Jackson (undisclosed), running back Trent Richardson (left knee), strong safety Usama Young (undisclosed), fullback Eddie Williams (undisclosed), linebacker Chris Gocong (torn right Achilles’ tendon), defensive end Marcus Benard (undisclosed), tight end Benjamin Watson (undisclosed), defensive end Frostee Rucker (undisclosed) and defensive tackle Phil Taylor (torn left pectoral muscle).
Today’s schedule: The Browns are off today. They’ll play the Detroit Lions in the preseason opener for both teams at 7:30 p.m. Friday at Ford Field.
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Browns notebook: Gordon flashes, falters
BEREA —
Rookie receiver Josh Gordon’s impressive start to training camp has hit a wall.
“You can see that some of these guys have got camp legs,” head coach Pat Shurmur said.
The head coach acknowledged that Gordon, taken in last month’s supplemental draft, is a camp-legs sufferer.
After getting kicked out of Baylor, Gordon practiced with Utah last year but did not play. At 21, he is the youngest player in camp.
“His mind and body are battling right now,” Shurmur said. “This is unlike anything he’s ever been through.”
Gordon is thought to be the Browns’ best candidate to eventually be a star wideout.
Camper of the week
Fourth-year Brown Mohamed Massaquoi might be the most improved player in Berea.
“He looks totally different from last year,” Shurmur said. “Mo is doing an outstanding job in camp.”
Massaquoi has 1,491 receiving yards in three years since joining the Browns as a No. 50 overall draft pick in 2009. His progress seemed to slow after he was clobbered by James Harrison in a 2010 game at Pittsburgh.
Mike Holmgren was among Browns brass who challenged Massaquoi in the offseason.
“Mo is doing a fantastic job in camp,” Shurmur said. “I see a very focused guy.”
Massaquoi and 2011 Round 2 pick Greg Little will be the starting wideouts at Detroit.
Stadium fireworks
The Browns will stage their annual “family night” today at Browns Stadium.
Usually, “family night” has capped the first week of camp. For the first time, it is being conducted the week of the preseason opener, meaning there won’t be a lot of hitting.
It will simply be a normal game-week practice, followed by fireworks.
“It’ll be a Cleveland Browns event,” Shurmur said. “If I wasn’t involved with the team, it would be something I’d come watch.”
The practice will begin at 7 p.m. and last about 90 minutes. Admission is free.
Extra points
• Holmgren, Shurmur and Tom Heckert represented the Browns in a Philadelphia suburb at the funeral of Garrett Reid, son of Eagles head coach Andy Reid. They flew there and back on a private jet. Holmgren still was in the dress clothes he wore to the funeral when he attended Browns practice, which had its starting time moved because of the funeral.
• Owen Spencer, an undrafted rookie in 2011 who spent part of the year on the Lions’ practice squad, made one of the most spectacular catches of camp Tuesday, right in front of Holmgren. The 6-foot-3 Spencer made a twisting, acrobatic grab in traffic on a sideline bomb from No. 4 quarterback Thad Lewis.
• Shurmur shrugged off remarks from Colt McCoy that raised questions about the fairness of the quarterback competition. “He’s a competitor who is disappointed he’s not the starter,” Shurmur said. “All of the quarterbacks had an opportunity to show what they can do.”
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how long is mini camp nowadays? what's it been 2 weeks and we play a preseason game this friday?
i know it continues to the start of the regular season but putting two opposing teams on the field against each other i would deem an exhibition game. iw ould start the 2nd stringers and not even let my number one guys on the field. ok, maybe for the first 2 possessions.
oh yeah, let's just hope suh doesn't do to weeden that he did to delhomme last year. wasn't delhomme the same age as weeden when he played that game?
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how long is mini camp nowadays? what's it been 2 weeks and we play a preseason game this friday?
i know it continues to the start of the regular season but putting two opposing teams on the field against each other i would deem an exhibition game. iw ould start the 2nd stringers and not even let my number one guys on the field. ok, maybe for the first 2 possessions.
oh yeah, let's just hope suh doesn't do to weeden that he did to delhomme last year. wasn't delhomme the same age as weeden when he played that game?
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