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  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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    ... I always thought that it was odd that we would draft a guy that throws a harder ball when our receivers already had problems holding onto the ball. My money is on Colt McCoy taking the starting job very soon. It is only OBVIOUS who is better!

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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      PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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      presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

      All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

      The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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        presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

        All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

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        XanthrosX Xanthros wrote on last edited by
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        @poeticg said:

        presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

        All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

        While I applaud your effort, McCoy still plays scared. It's obvious by watching him break from the pocket too early. They both were guilty of staring the receivers down, difference is McCoy isn't a rookie anymore. I liked Weedens ability to get the ball where they can catch and YAC it. Yes he overcompensated it by trying to over anticipate the routes. It's his first PRESEASON game after all. I'd rather our QB be OVER confident than scared. That translates into passes downfield where the receiver doesn't have to jump up backwards and break his tailbone in the process. Weeden even said he tried to play faster to try and compensate for his inexperience. Not to mention the FO already stands behind him fully.

        Who let the DAWGS out??
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          H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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          I hope Weeden makes the hall of fame. Not even because I'm a Browns fan, but just so PG will have to eat all of his Colt McCoy being great nonsense.

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            @poeticg said:

            presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

            All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

            While I applaud your effort, McCoy still plays scared. It's obvious by watching him break from the pocket too early. They both were guilty of staring the receivers down, difference is McCoy isn't a rookie anymore. I liked Weedens ability to get the ball where they can catch and YAC it. Yes he overcompensated it by trying to over anticipate the routes. It's his first PRESEASON game after all. I'd rather our QB be OVER confident than scared. That translates into passes downfield where the receiver doesn't have to jump up backwards and break his tailbone in the process. Weeden even said he tried to play faster to try and compensate for his inexperience. Not to mention the FO already stands behind him fully.

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            @xanthros said:

            Not to mention the FO already stands behind him fully.

            you mean the soon to be gone front office?

            nobody's job is safe on this team even our rookie QB. listen i believe in continuity blah blah blah but i never believed in holmgren, especially when it was clear he fired mangini to hire a friends kid.

            if this team lays another egg like last year expect a lot of changes, just not in the FO.

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              @xanthros said:

              Not to mention the FO already stands behind him fully.

              you mean the soon to be gone front office?

              nobody's job is safe on this team even our rookie QB. listen i believe in continuity blah blah blah but i never believed in holmgren, especially when it was clear he fired mangini to hire a friends kid.

              if this team lays another egg like last year expect a lot of changes, just not in the FO.

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              ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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              @miktoxic said:

              you mean the soon to be gone front office?

              nobody's job is safe on this team even our rookie QB. listen i believe in continuity blah blah blah but i never believed in holmgren, especially when it was clear he fired mangini to hire a friends kid.

              if this team lays another egg like last year expect a lot of changes, just not in the FO.

              I agree, though I could see some continuity because I believe both Childress and Juron will be candidates for the head coaching job.

              If we only win 4 games, the decision is easy. Win 6 and it will give some pause for thought, but they probably go. 7 wins is the magic number for Homie and crew.

              If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                @miktoxic said:

                you mean the soon to be gone front office?

                nobody's job is safe on this team even our rookie QB. listen i believe in continuity blah blah blah but i never believed in holmgren, especially when it was clear he fired mangini to hire a friends kid.

                if this team lays another egg like last year expect a lot of changes, just not in the FO.

                I agree, though I could see some continuity because I believe both Childress and Juron will be candidates for the head coaching job.

                If we only win 4 games, the decision is easy. Win 6 and it will give some pause for thought, but they probably go. 7 wins is the magic number for Homie and crew.

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                H Horn of Lake Erie wrote on last edited by
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                @ballpeen said:

                I agree, though I could see some continuity because I believe both Childress and Juron will be candidates for the head coaching job.

                If we only win 4 games, the decision is easy. Win 6 and it will give some pause for thought, but they probably go. 7 wins is the magic number for Homie and crew.

                With this Haslam guy I don't think even 7-9 will cut the cake when considering who to boot outta the FO.

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                  presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

                  All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

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                  Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                  @poeticg said:

                  presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

                  All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

                  Did he really say "moxie"?

                  After Frye, Quinn and McCoy, I don't ever want to hear the word "moxie" associated with one of our quarterbacks ever again. Brian Sipe happens once a lifetime, get over it.

                  Big dude with a cannon, half a brain and accuracy ... that's what we need ... that's what every team needs.

                  Zombo

                  --Shep ruined the word "moxie" and all smallish QBs for me ....

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                  • PoeticGP PoeticG

                    presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

                    All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

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                    B Bills-n-Browns-Fan wrote on last edited by
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                    @poeticg said:

                    presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

                    All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

                    This is pathetic...

                    Proud fan of the Buffalo Bills and Cleveland Browns.
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                      chocoC choco wrote on last edited by
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                      presence - not even close. weedz stood in the pocket and fired the ball. colt took off running several times. to this day, ive never observed colt stand in the pocket and deliver, he often bails way to early...which doesn't make the OL job any easier.

                      mobility - check. kids got great wheels....but uses them way too often.

                      moxie - huh? this is debatable...both on merit and relevance.

                      accuracy - come on....his short range accuracy is average, long range is non-existent. he is certainly no better than brandon in this regard.

                      awareness - not so good. as stated, he moves from the pocket when ghosts get close. if anything, i think his awareness is a hindrance.

                      vision - is terrible. utterly...terrible. he doesn't even look at 2/3 of the field.

                      look....colt should look serviceable at this point....he's got 20+ games started under his belt, and considerably more knowledge of the offense. thats his only advantage over weeden. however, ive seen his fools gold last year in the preseason. when the games counted, it didn't look so good.

                      colt was given all last year and didn't look so good. why would it make sense to surmise that the coaches will get the jitters and pull weeden to insert colt? its weedens year, whether he looks like an all-pro or a bust.

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                        presence - not even close. weedz stood in the pocket and fired the ball. colt took off running several times. to this day, ive never observed colt stand in the pocket and deliver, he often bails way to early...which doesn't make the OL job any easier.

                        mobility - check. kids got great wheels....but uses them way too often.

                        moxie - huh? this is debatable...both on merit and relevance.

                        accuracy - come on....his short range accuracy is average, long range is non-existent. he is certainly no better than brandon in this regard.

                        awareness - not so good. as stated, he moves from the pocket when ghosts get close. if anything, i think his awareness is a hindrance.

                        vision - is terrible. utterly...terrible. he doesn't even look at 2/3 of the field.

                        look....colt should look serviceable at this point....he's got 20+ games started under his belt, and considerably more knowledge of the offense. thats his only advantage over weeden. however, ive seen his fools gold last year in the preseason. when the games counted, it didn't look so good.

                        colt was given all last year and didn't look so good. why would it make sense to surmise that the coaches will get the jitters and pull weeden to insert colt? its weedens year, whether he looks like an all-pro or a bust.

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                        Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                        @choco said:

                        presence - not even close. weedz stood in the pocket and fired the ball. colt took off running several times. to this day, ive never observed colt stand in the pocket and deliver, he often bails way to early...which doesn't make the OL job any easier.

                        mobility - check. kids got great wheels....but uses them way too often.

                        moxie - huh? this is debatable...both on merit and relevance.

                        accuracy - come on....his short range accuracy is average, long range is non-existent. he is certainly no better than brandon in this regard.

                        awareness - not so good. as stated, he moves from the pocket when ghosts get close. if anything, i think his awareness is a hindrance.

                        vision - is terrible. utterly...terrible. he doesn't even look at 2/3 of the field.

                        look....colt should look serviceable at this point....he's got 20+ games started under his belt, and considerably more knowledge of the offense. thats his only advantage over weeden. however, ive seen his fools gold last year in the preseason. when the games counted, it didn't look so good.

                        colt was given all last year and didn't look so good. why would it make sense to surmise that the coaches will get the jitters and pull weeden to insert colt? its weedens year, whether he looks like an all-pro or a bust.

                        Hell, my penis has mobility, accuracy (never misses the toilet), awareness and moxie, plenty of moxie ... but it can't play QB for us because, just like Colt McCoy ... it doesn't have an arm.

                        Zombo

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                          @choco said:

                          presence - not even close. weedz stood in the pocket and fired the ball. colt took off running several times. to this day, ive never observed colt stand in the pocket and deliver, he often bails way to early...which doesn't make the OL job any easier.

                          mobility - check. kids got great wheels....but uses them way too often.

                          moxie - huh? this is debatable...both on merit and relevance.

                          accuracy - come on....his short range accuracy is average, long range is non-existent. he is certainly no better than brandon in this regard.

                          awareness - not so good. as stated, he moves from the pocket when ghosts get close. if anything, i think his awareness is a hindrance.

                          vision - is terrible. utterly...terrible. he doesn't even look at 2/3 of the field.

                          look....colt should look serviceable at this point....he's got 20+ games started under his belt, and considerably more knowledge of the offense. thats his only advantage over weeden. however, ive seen his fools gold last year in the preseason. when the games counted, it didn't look so good.

                          colt was given all last year and didn't look so good. why would it make sense to surmise that the coaches will get the jitters and pull weeden to insert colt? its weedens year, whether he looks like an all-pro or a bust.

                          Hell, my penis has mobility, accuracy (never misses the toilet), awareness and moxie, plenty of moxie ... but it can't play QB for us because, just like Colt McCoy ... it doesn't have an arm.

                          Zombo

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          Zombo said:

                          Hell, my penis has mobility, accuracy (never misses the toilet), awareness and moxie, plenty of moxie ... but it can't play QB for us because, just like Colt McCoy ... it doesn't have an arm.

                          Zombo

                          sorry about that. mine looks like a baby's arm holding an apple.

                          don't think it could hold a football though.

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                            Zombo said:

                            Hell, my penis has mobility, accuracy (never misses the toilet), awareness and moxie, plenty of moxie ... but it can't play QB for us because, just like Colt McCoy ... it doesn't have an arm.

                            Zombo

                            sorry about that. mine looks like a baby's arm holding an apple.

                            don't think it could hold a football though.

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                            Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                            @miktoxic said:

                            sorry about that. mine looks like a baby's arm holding an apple.

                            Maybe when you play shadow puppets...

                            Zombo

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                              @poeticg said:

                              presence, mobility, moxie, accuracy, awareness and vision.

                              All of these are required to throw a pass in the NFL. Weeden's eyes were like saucers out there on Friday Night. He needs time... Who better for right here and now, this year to take our team to the Playoffs than Colt McCoooy!!!!!

                              Did he really say "moxie"?

                              After Frye, Quinn and McCoy, I don't ever want to hear the word "moxie" associated with one of our quarterbacks ever again. Brian Sipe happens once a lifetime, get over it.

                              Big dude with a cannon, half a brain and accuracy ... that's what we need ... that's what every team needs.

                              Zombo

                              --Shep ruined the word "moxie" and all smallish QBs for me ....

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              Zombo said:

                              Did he really say "moxie"?

                              After Frye, Quinn and McCoy, I don't ever want to hear the word "moxie" associated with one of our quarterbacks ever again. Brian Sipe happens once a lifetime, get over it.

                              Big dude with a cannon, half a brain and accuracy ... that's what we need ... that's what every team needs.

                              Zombo

                              --Shep ruined the word "moxie" and all smallish QBs for me ....

                              I understand Sipe was NFL mvp once but I'm not sure why he's talked about so reverently. It was Bernie Kosar who engineered the Browns' best run in my lifetime. I will always put kosar ahead of Sipe.

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