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    Curtis Martin is an interesting comparison for Brown. Personally, I see him as a poor man's DeAngelo Williams: average size & speed, but great vision and makes very good cuts.

    Here are two other underclassmen who declared today:

    • Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
      • 6'4", 340 lbs., 5.28 40
      • Projected: Round 1
      • Player Comparison: Willie Anderson
    • Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
      • 6'3", 220 lbs., 4.59 40
      • Projected: Round 2
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    Aloysius said:

    Curtis Martin is an interesting comparison for Brown. Personally, I see him as a poor man's DeAngelo Williams: average size & speed, but great vision and makes very good cuts.

    Excellent observation. In addition to his devastating (sp) stiff arm, he REALLY knows how to use his blockers.

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      Zombo said:

      I haven't seen our resident draftniks talking about this guy much. Looks like Curtis Martin-type, size, speed and production maybe?

      I don't think I've ever watched a UConn football game, but he ran for like 800 yards over Buffalo yesterday.

      Any interest?Zombo

      People here, Zombo, are still trying to come to grips with the notion that a UCONN FOOTBALL player could be rated so high.

      I've watched this guy play for 3 years and he just kept coming and coming.

      Edsall is still at a huge disadvantage when recruiting and like with other UCONN players (maybe 3 or 4 drafted this year), they were not highly touted out of High School. That is what impresses me most about Edsall - he really develops his players.

      I believe Brown can be a solid NFL RB. He can stiff-arm like somebody who played 40 years ago.

      He could be a good 'value' late 2 or early-mid Rd 3.

      PS He previously stated that he was going to return to UCONN - he is just about graduated any way, but after Edsall did some NFL due diligence, he must have told him and his parentS that his stock was pretty high and there would not be much to gain if he played another year (see Brohm).

      Good kid. The capital 'S' at the end of parents was no mistake. A solid citizen.

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      @chicopee-john said:

      People here, Zombo, are still trying to come to grips with the notion that a UCONN FOOTBALL player could be rated so high.

      Like the back, hate the program. 😉

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        Looks like George Selvie is staying at USF. I liked this guy a lot as a round 2 pick for us...

        Tom NYC: According to the Tampa Trib, George Selvie is returning to USF for a senior year. Is George making the right decision.

        SportsNation Mel Kiper: (1:07 PM ET ) I think he is. He did not have the great, great year you thought he would. He had a phenomenal sophomore year. He led the nation in sacks. He's a speed rusher. He's only 6-4, so he's not a big DE, but he's made for a 3-4 scheme. The first half of the season, he was not the great, great performer you thought he would be. By going back, he becomes, automatically the 1 or 2 ranked DE coming back. We'll have to see what Hardy from Ole Miss does.

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          Updated List:

          • Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia
            • 6'3", 236 lbs., 4.78 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Jay Cutler
          • Mark Sanchez, QB, USC
            • 6'3", 225 lbs., 4.85 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Brady Quinn
          • Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
            • 6'3", 214 lbs., 4.54 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Braylon Edwards
          • Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
            • 6'4", 340 lbs., 5.28 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Willie Anderson
          • Everette Brown, DE-OLB, Florida State
            • 6'4", 252 lbs., 4.65 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Gaines Adams
          • Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
            • 5'11", 208 lbs., 4.48 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Clinton Portis
          • Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, Ohio State
            • 6'1", 237 lbs., 4.53 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Larry Johnson
          • Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
            • 6'1", 200 lbs., 4.38 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Torry Holt
          • Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
            • 5'11", 195 lbs., 4.36 40
            • Projected: Round 1
          • D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
            • 5'10", 184 lbs., 4.45 40
            • Projected: Round 1
            • Player Comparison: Terence Newman
          • Paul Kruger, DE-OLB, Utah
            • 6'4", 255 lbs., 4.68 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Patrick Kerney
          • Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
            • 6'6", 310 lbs., 5.09 40
            • Projected Round: late Round 1/early Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Jeff Backus
          • Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
            • 6'0", 204 lbs., 4.42 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Antrel Rolle
          • Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
            • 6'1", 210 lbs., 4.57 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Chad Johnson
          • Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU
            • 6'3", 210 lbs., 4.54 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
          • Sean Smith, CB-S, Utah
            • 6'3", 210, 4.52 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Mike Rumph
          • Lesean McCoy, RB, Pitt
            • 5'11", 210 lbs., 4.49 40
            • Projected: late Round 1/early Round 2
          • Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
            • 5'11", 235 lbs., 4.58 40
            • Projected: Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Jonathan Stewart
          • Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut
            • 5'10", 210 lbs., 4.49 40
            • Projected: Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Vernand Morency
          • Aaron Maybin, DE-OLB, Penn State
            • 6'4", 242 lbs., 4.67 40
            • Projected: Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Andre Carter
          • Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
            • 6'2", 206 lbs., 4.37 40
            • Projected: Round 2
            • Player Comparison: Javon Walker
          • Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
            • 6'5", 240 lbs., 4.58 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Kevin Everett
          • Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
            • 6'4", 215 lbs., 4.54 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Limas Sweed
          • Nate Davis, QB, Ball State
            • 6'1", 218 lbs., 4.78 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
          • Asher Allen, CB, Georgia
            • 5'10", 198 lbs., 4.48 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
          • James Casey, TE, Rice
            • 6'4", 235 lbs., 4.68 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Doug Jolley
          • Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
            • 6'6", 248 lbs., 4.86 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Daunte Culpepper
          • Captain Munnerlyn, CB, South Carolina
            • 5'9", 185 lbs., 4.39 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Jason Webster
          • Sen'Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn
            • 6'1", 295 lbs., 4.93 40
            • Projected: late Round 2/early Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Anthony "Booger" McFarland
          • Austin Collie, WR, BYU
            • 6'2", 206 lbs., 4.56 40
            • Projected: Round 3
            • Player Comparison: Anthony Gonzalez
          • Chris Baker, DT, Hampton (PSU transfer)
            • 6'2", 308 lbs., 5.08 40
            • Projected: Round 3
          • Brandon Williams, DE, Texas Tech
            • 6'5", 252 lbs., 4.76 40
            • Projected: Round 4
            • Player Comparison: Mark Anderson
          • Maurice Evans, DE-OLB, Penn State
            • 6'2", 265 lbs., 4.76 40
            • Projected: Round 4
          • Ricky Jean-Francois, DT, LSU
            • 6'3", 290 lbs., 4.86 40
            • Projected: Round 4
          • Emmanuel Cook, SS, South Carolina
            • 5'10", 205 lbs., 4.52 40
            • Projected: Round 4
            • Player Comparison: Mike Doss
          • Jeremy Childs, WR, Boise State
            • 6'0", 196 lbs., 4.48 40
            • Projected: Round 4
          • Gerald McRath, OLB, Southern Miss
            • 6'3", 220 lbs., 4.62 40
            • Projected: Round 5
            • Player Comparison: Gerris Wilkinson
          • Glen Coffee, RB, Alabama
            • 6'1", 204 lbs., 4.53 40
            • Projected: Round 5
            • Player Comparison: Ciatrick Fason
          • Jerraud Powers, CB, Auburn
            • 5'9", 192 lbs., 4.49 40
            • Projected: late Round 5/early Round 6
            • Player Comparison: Hank Poteat
          • P.J. Hill, RB, Wisconsin
            • 5'11", 236 lbs., 4.59 40
            • Projected: late Round 6/early Round 7
            • Player Comparison: Cedric Houston
          • Kevin Ogletree, WR, Virginia
            • 6'2", 190 lbs., 4.50 40
            • Projected: late Round 6/early Round 7
            • Player Comparison: Lee Mays
          • Greg Isdaner, OG, West Virginia
            • 6'4", 322 lbs., 5.19 40
            • Projected: late Round 6/early Round 7
            • Player Comparison: Mike McGlynn

          Still haven't made an official decision:

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          Want to sew up the offensive line and get a better right tackle than kevin Shaffer? Draft this guy if he is available in the second round .....

          Aloysius said:

          [*] Eben Britton, OT, Arizona
          • 6'6", 310 lbs., 5.09 40
          • Projected Round: late Round 1/early Round 2
          • Player Comparison: Jeff Backus

          All Pac-10 Left Tackle who spent his first two years impressing as a right tackle.

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            Sorry to pimp Kiper today, but he's chock-full-'o info for us Browns fans...

            Dave (Omaha, NE): What team(s) would be the best fit for Shonn Greene, and where do you see him ending up?

            SportsNation Mel Kiper: (1:36 PM ET ) Shonn Greene, this is his first season at Iowa where he was the featured back. He was out of football last year. He went over 100 yards every game. He has that low, powerful base. Picks up a lot of yards after the initial contact. Good balance, He averaged over 6 yards per carry. Scored double digit TDs. He has to become a better pass receiving option at the next level. He has to work on his hands and his blocking. As a runner, he presents a lot of options. He'll have to work in tandem with a back that can catch the ball and is elusive. Greene will be the power runner. Most of the teams in the NFL now have two backs. There are not a lot of teams right now that are desperate. The Patriots could be a team. Possibly the Bengals. The team that is No. 1 looking for a RB is Cleveland. Another team is Houston, with Steve Slaton. That would be a possibility. The Seahawks.

            via here.

            To me, "work in tandem with a back that can catch the ball and is elusive" is J Harrison to a tee.

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              Norwood and Greene should be impact players, I can see both going in the first round.

              Head or Gut?
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                Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford and running back Knowshon Moreno, who led the SEC in passing and rushing this season, respectively, are expected to announce Wednesday that they will enter April's NFL draft.

                - ESPN.com

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                  WVBrownsfanW WVBrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                  Just heard tonight on FSN Pittsburgh that Pitt RB Lesean McCoy will announce tomorrow (Fri.) that he will enter the NFL draft.

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                    WVBrownsfanW WVBrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                    Zombo said:

                    I like him a lot.

                    But then again, I wanted Adrian Peterson ... what do I know?

                    Zombo

                    His family got the draft report on him and it stated he would be a 1st or high 2nd round pick and they feel with a strong combine he will go in the first.

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                      Zombo said:

                      He has impressed the hell out of me when I have watched him. And his HS and college production is off the charts.

                      If he were there early 2nd round I'd think you'd have to jump on that.

                      Zombo

                      I would be on board with this. I've seen McCoy play a lot the last two years and he's impressed me. I would be happy with him or Greene in the second round. One of them should be there.

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                        WVBrownsfanW WVBrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                        Now it looks like Lesean McCoy is going to take the weekend to decide if he's staying or not.

                        Here's a list of underclassmen that have declared.

                        http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11233741

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                          Now it looks like Lesean McCoy is going to take the weekend to decide if he's staying or not.

                          Here's a list of underclassmen that have declared.

                          http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11233741

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                          @wvbrownsfan said:

                          Now it looks like Lesean McCoy is going to take the weekend to decide if he's staying or not.

                          Here's a list of underclassmen that have declared.

                          http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/11233741

                          Best available RB in second round....nothing but ILB in first and I'd be dream land!

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                            I updated the underclassmen declaring in the thread-starter. But here's one big name staying in school: JasonJ's favorite 3-4 OLB prospect, Sergio Kindle, is returning to Texas for his senior year.

                            Look for him to be one of the top linebacker prospects in 2010.

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                              Reports & rumors about some highly-regarded underclassmen:

                              Brandon Spikes

                              Numerous teammates also said they think linebacker Brandon Spikes will also return for his senior year — largely because of Tebow's decision.

                              Asked after Florida's 24-14 win against Oklahoma on Thursday if he would do what Tebow decides, Spikes smiled and said, "That's a good bet."

                              Teammate Ryan Stamper said Spikes told him he was going to return, while on the team plane returning from Miami.

                              "Brandon told me personally, he's coming back," Stamper said. "This was after the game."

                              Percy Harvin

                              Harvin told Sun Sports after Sunday’s championship celebration that he might be joining Tim Tebow for a third championship run in four seasons.

                              “I’m leaning towards coming back, but I haven’t made the final decision yet, so I’ll sit down with coach tomorrow and he’ll help me make that decision,” Harvin said.

                              LeSean McCoy

                              Pitt star tailback LeSean McCoy is expected to announce today that he will turn professional, according to a Panthers source.

                              Wannstedt declined comment yesterday, but a Pitt source said the coach used his league contacts to warn the McCoy family that, despite a first-round grade from the NFL draft advisory board, he could drop into the second round. Wannstedt also informed the McCoys that the NCAA could provide an insurance policy of up to $5 million to protect against serious injury.

                              Pitt's spring semester began last Monday, and McCoy missed the entire week of classes.

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                                Junior RB C.J. Spiller is “going back and forth” in his decision on whether to turn pro, [Clemson HC Dabo] Swinney said. No other juniors are contemplating leaving, Swinney said, which would mean receiver Jacoby Ford and corners Crezdon Butler and Chris Chancellor would return.
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                                  Thanks Al....I still think Harvin will come out as he stands the most injury risk...speed's his deal...if he loses that, it isn't good for him.

                                  I would like Spikes back.....but I still think he will come out....but you never know...some of these guys may want to be like our B-ballers a few years back when Noah, Horford, and Brewer all decided to come back for a 2nd run at the title.

                                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                                    Thanks Al....I still think Harvin will come out as he stands the most injury risk...speed's his deal...if he loses that, it isn't good for him.

                                    I would like Spikes back.....but I still think he will come out....but you never know...some of these guys may want to be like our B-ballers a few years back when Noah, Horford, and Brewer all decided to come back for a 2nd run at the title.

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                                    @ballpeen said:

                                    I still think Harvin will come out as he stands the most injury risk...speed's his deal...if he loses that, it isn't good for him.

                                    Yeah, it'd be a pretty selfless move on his part. If he pairs that bowl performance with a sub-4.4 40 at the Combine, Harvin could end up being a top 15 pick.

                                    That's a lot to give up for a chance at another national championship.

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                                      We're said to be in need of a CB who can match up with tall receivers. I don't know much about this guy, but he seems to fit the bill:

                                      Smith to leave Utah for draft

                                      By Joe Schad

                                      Utah junior cornerback Sean Smith will declare for the NFL draft, a person close to Smith said Monday.

                                      Smith, 6-feet-3 and 210 pounds, is projected in the first two rounds, as is his teammate, sophomore defensive end Paul Kruger, who has also decided to go pro.

                                      Both players have already begun training for the NFL scouting combine. Smith tied for the Mountain West Conference lead with five interceptions. He helped slow down Alabama receiver Julio Jones in the Utes' Sugar Bowl victory.

                                      Smith hopes to run in the high 4.3 or low 4.4 40-yard dash at the combine in February.

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                                        Could be.

                                        It definitely seems like a good year to be picking near the top of Round 2. But if we have a couple targets still on the board, maybe we can trade down and accumulate some more picks.

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                                          Anyone a big Kurt Coleman fan? He appears to be considering turning pro.

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