Convention
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just more election manipulation
dont mess with the college! rah rah!
Essentially, the electoral college prevents politicians from states with higher populations from dominating those of lower populations. So, doing away with the electoral college would mean that folks in rural America no longer have a voice, as they don’t have near the numbers of voters as the cities do.
Let’s face it, cities tend to vote democrat …so, naturally, Al Gore would be tickled pink if the electoral college were a thing of the past.
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I really can't stand this political theater. I was listening to NPR on Friday, and they had a lib and con arguing about Ryan's speech. Each side was saying the other one was making false claims. Well, clearly you're both just lying through your teeth and trying to make the other side look bad. Sucks that if I vote for someone else, it's just a waste. Can't wait to hear what comes out of the Democratic Pep Rally National Convention.
I know how you feel. Both sides in this fight stink like an open cistern. Regardless of how you feel about Al Gore, I think he's right in that the electoral college should be abolished. It's a bullshit system. Popular vote is the only thing that should matter. Then third parties could have a realistic chance. Both the ndp and the gop can kiss my ass. I don't like this all in crap, where you have a checklist of agendas and if you don't love them all, every single one, and you don't hate the other party and THEIR checklist of agendas to the death, then you're not republican enough. Or you're not liberal enough. Whatever. It's stupid.
I know how you feel. Both sides in this fight stink like an open cistern. Regardless of how you feel about Al Gore, I think he's right in that the electoral college should be abolished. It's a bullshit system. Popular vote is the only thing that should matter. Then third parties could have a realistic chance. Both the ndp and the gop can kiss my ass. I don't like this all in crap, where you have a checklist of agendas and if you don't love them all, every single one, and you don't hate the other party and THEIR checklist of agendas to the death, then you're not republican enough. Or you're not liberal enough. Whatever. It's stupid.
While I do agree that the college should be abolished, I think that popular vote being the only thing that matters is dangerous for minorities. I mean, in either case, what we have now is half of the country being pissed at whomever is in charge, and it ends up being a vicious cycle where everything gets blamed on the POTUS. I think the bigger problem is that Congress is completely unrepresentative of the people. You've got two parties that are diametrically opposed, and everyone in the middle gets screwed. We should switch to a parliamentary system, and give smaller groups of people a voice.
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just more election manipulation
dont mess with the college! rah rah!
Essentially, the electoral college prevents politicians from states with higher populations from dominating those of lower populations. So, doing away with the electoral college would mean that folks in rural America no longer have a voice, as they don’t have near the numbers of voters as the cities do.
Let’s face it, cities tend to vote democrat …so, naturally, Al Gore would be tickled pink if the electoral college were a thing of the past.
just more election manipulation
dont mess with the college! rah rah!
Essentially, the electoral college prevents politicians from states with higher populations from dominating those of lower populations. So, doing away with the electoral college would mean that folks in rural America no longer have a voice, as they don’t have near the numbers of voters as the cities do.
Let’s face it, cities tend to vote democrat …so, naturally, Al Gore would be tickled pink if the electoral college were a thing of the past.
Except the system is fucked. Your vote only matters if you live in Ohio, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Michigan, or Florida.
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because of the "swing states" ..... So? as an example of it not mattering, I live in a state where my vote to an R candidate is always gobbled up by a majority of dems that had rule here. But in light of voter fraud,
(proven) I finally sense a change in the wind, and am looking forward to possibly seeing our 10 electoral votes go to the R guy! the electoral college system is proven and wont ever get changed I believe....
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Uh, so you're okay with my vote counting more than yours? I live in Ohio, and I would be pissed about the presidential election if I didn't live in a swing state.
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I like my system where people get weighted votes
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Uh, so you're okay with my vote counting more than yours? I live in Ohio, and I would be pissed about the presidential election if I didn't live in a swing state.
Uh, so you're okay with my vote counting more than yours? I live in Ohio, and I would be pissed about the presidential election if I didn't live in a swing state.
well it wont keep me from voting anyways....To just say screw it - its unfair, and not vote isnt an answer either. stranger things may happen?
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I like my system where people get weighted votes
My link I had to check the term "weighted votes" and it parallels the US Electoral system too
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Uh, so you're okay with my vote counting more than yours? I live in Ohio, and I would be pissed about the presidential election if I didn't live in a swing state.
well it wont keep me from voting anyways....To just say screw it - its unfair, and not vote isnt an answer either. stranger things may happen?
well it wont keep me from voting anyways....To just say screw it - its unfair, and not vote isnt an answer either. stranger things may happen?
I'm not saying you shouldn't vote. I'm saying you should advocate for a change to a fairer system.
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There is no fairer system.
You want a different system, in popular vote?
Then, you just want an advantage over elections.
All those states like Neb, Montana, etc etc etc...
won't have much of anything to do with deciding who the next president is.
That isn't representation. It's the tyranny of the inner cities, which will go for
the democrat give away to the gimme free ride slugs in our society.
That is worse. Not better. Better is NOT better for only libs.
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YEAH!
More votes for our conservative farmers!
More votes for real America!
yeehaw!
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No answer. Typical. Just a dimwitted woodpeckerhead change of subject as usual. Loser.
Here's your song, stupidass:
The Woodpecker Song
Glenn Miller
(Reginella Campagnola)
(E. Di Lazzaro)
He's up each morning bright and early
To wake up all the neighborhood
To bring to ev'ry boy and girlie
His happy serenade on wood.
Hear him pickin' out a melody
Peck, peck, peckin' at the same old tree.
He's as happy as a bumble bee
All day long.
To serenade your lady
Just find a tree that's shady
And when you hear that tick-a-tick-tick, tick-a-tick-tick
Sing right along.
Come on and try his rhythm
And let your hearts beat with 'im
Just listen to that tick-a-tick-tick, tick-a-tick-tick
Happy little Woodpecker Song.
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There is no fairer system.
You want a different system, in popular vote?
Then, you just want an advantage over elections.
All those states like Neb, Montana, etc etc etc...
won't have much of anything to do with deciding who the next president is.
That isn't representation. It's the tyranny of the inner cities, which will go for
the democrat give away to the gimme free ride slugs in our society.
That is worse. Not better. Better is NOT better for only libs.
All those states like Neb, Montana, etc etc etc...
won't have much of anything to do with deciding who the next president is.
That isn't representation. It's the tyranny of the inner cities, which will go for
the democrat give away to the gimme free ride slugs in our society.
That is worse. Not better. Better is NOT better for only libs.
Uh, right because Obama and Romney spend so much time on those states.
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To me the college is more unfair giving those votes more weight than they actually carry. It should be one vote one person, no more no less. That's democracy, fellas, and if you get left out in the cold too bad for you. The people have spoken.
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I never thought I would agree with Al Gore, but I think the electoral college should go away. Just most votes wins.
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I like the college because I'm in California and we're never in play so we don't have to sit through all of the stupid campaign ads. When I'm traveling and see what people in Ohio and Michigan and New Hampshire and Colorado have to go through, I feel lucky.
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I like the college because I'm in California and we're never in play so we don't have to sit through all of the stupid campaign ads. When I'm traveling and see what people in Ohio and Michigan and New Hampshire and Colorado have to go through, I feel lucky.
I like the college because I'm in California and we're never in play so we don't have to sit through all of the stupid campaign ads. When I'm traveling and see what people in Ohio and Michigan and New Hampshire and Colorado have to go through, I feel lucky.
I second that!
OTOH I go back and forth with my opinion of the E C.
If pure numbers, a straight vote, is the ideal then it's time to eliminate the Senate.
If, in fact, we are at Association of free and independent states......
WSS
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I go back and forth too, but think it should probably be done away with. And if you eliminated the electoral college, you want to keep the Senate because it preserves the same idea. Rural/less populous states would still be over-represented in Congress.
At the very least I think the early primary states should change every four years. More competition is almost always a good thing. Make them appeal to a broader audience.
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I go back and forth too, but think it should probably be done away with. And if you eliminated the electoral college, you want to keep the Senate because it preserves the same idea. Rural/less populous states would still be over-represented in Congress.
At the very least I think the early primary states should change every four years. More competition is almost always a good thing. Make them appeal to a broader audience.
I go back and forth too, but think it should probably be done away with. And if you eliminated the electoral college, you want to keep the Senate because it preserves the same idea. Rural/less populous states would still be over-represented in Congress.
Over represented? How so? I'm guessing you mean equal senators. Should they be over represented?
At the very least I think the early primary states should change every four years. More competition is almost always a good thing. Make them appeal to a broader audience.
That makes sense, but how do we do it?
Lottery?
WSS
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Over-represented in the sense that Wyoming and California have the same numbers of Senators despite having populations of 568,000 and 37.6 million respectively. Christ, there are probably 568,000 people living within a three mile radius of my house. (And they're all on the freeway at the same time.)
I don't know how you'd do the primaries. They'd just have to rotate their schedules somehow. But these are the little things that I think would help make our government more representative and elections more competitive. It's get rid of gerrymandered districts as well, and have a computer draw up the districts by population. If some members lose their districts or the makeup of their district changes, so be it. Then represent those people.
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