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Can Shurmur Do Math?

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  • 4Browns 4
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    4 4Browns wrote on last edited by
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    Biggest mistake of the game was not trying the two point conversion. I was screaming at the damn tv. My 12yr old son probably thinks i am a insane after listening to that rant.

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      I agree. I said the same thing while at then game. I thought a 2 pt conversion was in order.

      Make it or not, a TD still beats you.

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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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      @ballpeen said:

      I agree. I said the same thing while at then game. I thought a 2 pt conversion was in order.

      Make it or not, a TD still beats you.

      same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

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        @ballpeen said:

        I agree. I said the same thing while at then game. I thought a 2 pt conversion was in order.

        Make it or not, a TD still beats you.

        same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

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        J Joseph C Vara III wrote on last edited by
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        @browns149 said:

        same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

        Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

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          GipsG Gips wrote on last edited by Gips
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          Think what you will but yeah the 2 point conversion was a no brainer with a tiring defense and mike vick on the opposing team but there again imho shurmur just sucks as a playcaller and we may as well had left mangini the non offensive minded over conservative nit wit in place as shurmur is no better at decisive decision making or playcalling ..

          On a good note im looking forward to jimmy haslam cleaning this shit up from the top down once and for all..

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            tampadawgsT tampadawgs wrote on last edited by
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            Biggest mistake in the game was right before half 3rd and 2 and we throw it!!!! even if we do not make the first down on the run. We make Philly use there last time out and more than likely they do not score a TD right before half......

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              @browns149 said:

              same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

              Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

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              @joseph-c-vara-iii said:

              Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

              That's what Pat said in his presser... to early...you are just as stupid as him?

              That’s two scores tard 2 not one. He didn't discuss it, he even said it was to early. to early for what? Brandon wasn't and couldn't win the game for us later on...We had to win it at that point...if Weeden or Trent failed at that point fine. This is Brandon's game not Phil's no the D's. It all is on Brandon's shoulder. He took the reigns from McCoy it's his time to eat the turd or die...it's that simple. Pat needs to pound the turd in at that point...by not going for two he basically told Brandon and T-Rich I don't believe in you guys and I don’t' believe in the D either.

              That was probably the worst coaching decision in that game besides not putting Colt in for the final drive.

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                1 more season1 1 more season wrote on last edited by
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                Going for 2 or not is not the real problem there. It's that putrid offense! Do you really think they could have gained 2 yards on the goal line with one try? Hell no.

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                  @browns149 said:

                  same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

                  Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

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                  Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                  @joseph-c-vara-iii said:

                  Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

                  Agree... except for the idiots bit. It was way too early to go for 2.

                  That said.... if we could have given Philly the ball on the 2 and let our D try for a safety, then I'd have done it... 😎

                  Otherwise, as pointed out above, since we couldn't convert a 3rd and 2 with a long field, what makes anyone think our offense could convert a 2-point try in a compressed field.

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                    @browns149 said:

                    same here, as soon as DQ scored I was yelling for 2, and then saw dumbass shurmur running around with 1 finger up.

                    Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

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                    hish747H hish747 wrote on last edited by
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                    @joseph-c-vara-iii said:

                    Your all idiots, it was to early to go for 2 with a whole Quarter left....What if philly kicked 2 field goals to win the game 16-15 then you say what an idiot going for 2..You guys are absolutely clueless thinking he didn`t think or discuss with his assistance into such a scenario as scoring a TD and what to do !

                    Actually, you are clueless, or just a tool who swallows whatever the administration/coach dishes out hook, line and sinker. It doesn't make any difference if they are down by 5 or 6, the real difference is that if you are up by 7 points, a touchdown doesn't beat you. Any high school or peewee level coach understands this. It doesn't even really matter how early in the game it is, you go up by seven if you have the chance. It becomes much more important later on in the game when there is less time to do the two point conversion, but you still do it no matter what quarter you are in. And one thing Weeden proved that he could do is throw a short pass. So, I think he could have done this and at least should have tried. It certainly would have been at least as likely as driving to get into field goal range.

                    Look folks, the two point conversion was a no brainer for a coach that wants to win the game. I would like to see how the brain trust is going to cover this one up. I mean, I almost fell out of my chair when I saw Shurmur put up the one finger, but I settled down thinking, how likely is it that this comes down to one point.

                    And in the end, that probably is what Shurmur was thinking, there's no way the game is close anyway. He made the decision to play it safe since although a successful two point conversion puts the team in a better place, a failed two point conversion is riskier for his job. In other words, the coach chose what's best for his career over what's best for the team. In my opinion, this is even more reason to re-evaluate the head coach position.

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                      Rooster DickR Rooster Dick wrote on last edited by
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                      Glad to see the new season has brought out the same stupidity in this forum. All worried about other problems when you need to look at your crappy ass QB and crappy ass WR's

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                        BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                        I got to say, as a Rams fan, this sounds so much like our board when he was with us. I made these signatures back then and thought I'd share them with you guys;

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                          C ClevelandBigDawg wrote on last edited by
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                          Not that I don't disagree with not going for two, but our offense was completely pathetic, and we probably wouldn't have gotten it anyways, so you take a 2 FG lead instead of a 5 point lead.

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