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If Fred Jackson was healthy and starting I would give the edge to the Browns. They are much better at containing traight forward power runners. With Spiller you have a much better chance (IE McCoy) and I would have to give the Bills the advantage in the game.
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The one who wins the time of posession wins the game IMO. I'm expecting a run offense from both teams.
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Hoping to see T-Rich look even better next week!
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Hoping to see T-Rich look even better next week!
Hoping to see T-Rich look even better next week!
Indeed. Let the man take over the game
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surprised there's no snow in the forecast
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I'm excited for this game because I think the Brownss are on pretty equal footing with the Bills and Weeden and the offense is coming off a great week. I'm most interested to see if the defense can avoid the stupid penalties which really hurt us, especially on third downs. Hell, I'd go as far to say without those penalties the browns are in a great position to win that game.
I actually Spiller to not explode, but the biggest matchup IMO is Skrine vs whoever he's on. Skrine got absolutely abused last week and I guarantee the Bills will try to exploit that. I hope Sheldon Brown can get back there so Skrine can get protected in nickel and dime packages.
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I'm excited for this game because I think the Brownss are on pretty equal footing with the Bills and Weeden and the offense is coming off a great week. I'm most interested to see if the defense can avoid the stupid penalties which really hurt us, especially on third downs. Hell, I'd go as far to say without those penalties the browns are in a great position to win that game.
I actually Spiller to not explode, but the biggest matchup IMO is Skrine vs whoever he's on. Skrine got absolutely abused last week and I guarantee the Bills will try to exploit that. I hope Sheldon Brown can get back there so Skrine can get protected in nickel and dime packages.
I'm excited for this game because I think the Brownss are on pretty equal footing with the Bills and Weeden and the offense is coming off a great week. I'm most interested to see if the defense can avoid the stupid penalties which really hurt us, especially on third downs. Hell, I'd go as far to say without those penalties the browns are in a great position to win that game.
I actually Spiller to not explode, but the biggest matchup IMO is Skrine vs whoever he's on. Skrine got absolutely abused last week and I guarantee the Bills will try to exploit that. I hope Sheldon Brown can get back there so Skrine can get protected in nickel and dime packages.
Honestly Skrine's biggest problem is his tackling. His coverage isn't terrible but when he gives a big cushion he always misses the tackle. And Patterson needs to learn how to stay onsides. I have never seen a DB line up offsides as much as he does..
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
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surprised there's no snow in the forecast
surprised there's no snow in the forecast
Maybe if the game was in Buffalo...
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Just your Bills fan dropping by to learn a bit about your team, I have not watched them yet this year but seen some close scores. I have DVRed the games to look at them this week as I see how the Bills match up, but what better source of info than from the fans.
Hopefully a good week of football discussion followed by a Bills Win.
I know normally a Dick Jauron Defense plays bend but dont break, and soft in the backend, (actually soft all the way around from his time with the Bills)... But that is neither here or there.
Just your Bills fan dropping by to learn a bit about your team, I have not watched them yet this year but seen some close scores. I have DVRed the games to look at them this week as I see how the Bills match up, but what better source of info than from the fans.
Hopefully a good week of football discussion followed by a Bills Win.
I know normally a Dick Jauron Defense plays bend but dont break, and soft in the backend, (actually soft all the way around from his time with the Bills)... But that is neither here or there.
well, not much to say....0-2 is 0-2. The first week we at least *could* have won the game, and it was against a team many think will win 10 games or more. The second week we go out and lose fairly easily to a team that will be lucky to finish .500.
The bills best chance to win this game is for fitzpatrick to make big plays down the field through the air. Yes I know he isnt very good but this is the nfl....thats how you win games. And our secondary can give it up.
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Mario played pretty decent against the Chiefs. The attention KC devoted to him enabled us to get those 5 sacks. I remember the Chiefs tripled him on a particular play.
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Buffalo has always been a more refined, educated community than the most other, particularly the yinzers. Almost every other city is...though on occasion you get some brah from some dipshit town like Tampa coming in and making an ass of himself....and he has to quickly be decapitated.
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Will Mario be over The Schwartz most of the time, or over JT? If he is flexible, obviously you would want him over the rookie and not the 5 time All Pro.
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Hey bud when the Browns aren't winning or involved I'm always glad to see the Buffalo Bills do well.
Not this week but...
Pearl Street Brewing Company kicks ass. Buffalo brew pub is very good add Frank and Teresa's Anchor Bar is at American classic.
I had wings and 0V ack in the 80's when Frank and Teresa were still alive.
WSS
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
On this one he was abused week one but played very well week two against the Chiefs. Though the Stat line is not showing it. Against the Chiefs he was double and triple teamed at times, which left 1 on 1's against the DTs of Kyle Williams and Dareus and they totaled 3 sacks. Additionally, I saw a defense that did take advantage of the extra attention paid to Mario last week with press coverage, some blitzes and heck of alot of inside games. Their Run defense has been steller though the Stat line again does not really show it. Through the entire game last week they really only let up 39 yards until garbage time. Also same with the Jets, played well against the run.
Who is your NO 1 CB with Hayden gone because I would guess that is who would draw Stevie, and what type of game is he an off CB or a Press Guy?
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Buffalo has always been a more refined, educated community than the most other, particularly the yinzers. Almost every other city is...though on occasion you get some brah from some dipshit town like Tampa coming in and making an ass of himself....and he has to quickly be decapitated.
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
Will Mario be over The Schwartz most of the time, or over JT? If he is flexible, obviously you would want him over the rookie and not the 5 time All Pro.
Will Mario be over The Schwartz most of the time, or over JT? If he is flexible, obviously you would want him over the rookie and not the 5 time All Pro.
Mario is strictly a LDE and will play over your RT, at least that is what he has been all year.
I have seen them move him around a bit in pre-season and camp, but since the real games started he has been up against the right side with Dareus on the inside of him.
Mark Anderson will go against Joe Thomas with Kyle Williams inside of him.
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Will Mario be over The Schwartz most of the time, or over JT? If he is flexible, obviously you would want him over the rookie and not the 5 time All Pro.
Mario is strictly a LDE and will play over your RT, at least that is what he has been all year.
I have seen them move him around a bit in pre-season and camp, but since the real games started he has been up against the right side with Dareus on the inside of him.
Mark Anderson will go against Joe Thomas with Kyle Williams inside of him.
Mario is strictly a LDE and will play over your RT, at least that is what he has been all year.
I have seen them move him around a bit in pre-season and camp, but since the real games started he has been up against the right side with Dareus on the inside of him.
Mark Anderson will go against Joe Thomas with Kyle Williams inside of him.
That would mean keeping Richardson (who's a decent blocker) in to mop up against Mario in passing situations, or chip and go for a swing pass. They might try our FB Marecic, but the opinion is the guy is a worthless POS, both in blocking and about everything else.
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Mario is strictly a LDE and will play over your RT, at least that is what he has been all year.
I have seen them move him around a bit in pre-season and camp, but since the real games started he has been up against the right side with Dareus on the inside of him.
Mark Anderson will go against Joe Thomas with Kyle Williams inside of him.
That would mean keeping Richardson (who's a decent blocker) in to mop up against Mario in passing situations, or chip and go for a swing pass. They might try our FB Marecic, but the opinion is the guy is a worthless POS, both in blocking and about everything else.
That would mean keeping Richardson (who's a decent blocker) in to mop up against Mario in passing situations, or chip and go for a swing pass. They might try our FB Marecic, but the opinion is the guy is a worthless POS, both in blocking and about everything else.
I would not mind that at all. I would love to Limit Richardson's Production because he has to draw help assignments against Mario. That would help with the gameplan for the Bills IMO if they see Richardson having to pull help assignments.
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That would mean keeping Richardson (who's a decent blocker) in to mop up against Mario in passing situations, or chip and go for a swing pass. They might try our FB Marecic, but the opinion is the guy is a worthless POS, both in blocking and about everything else.
I would not mind that at all. I would love to Limit Richardson's Production because he has to draw help assignments against Mario. That would help with the gameplan for the Bills IMO if they see Richardson having to pull help assignments.
I would not mind that at all. I would love to Limit Richardson's Production because he has to draw help assignments against Mario. That would help with the gameplan for the Bills IMO if they see Richardson having to pull help assignments.
Richardson is not the one that should be pulling that assignment. It should be the fullback...but we have one that has proved fairly incapable of any task he is assigned.
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I would not mind that at all. I would love to Limit Richardson's Production because he has to draw help assignments against Mario. That would help with the gameplan for the Bills IMO if they see Richardson having to pull help assignments.
Richardson is not the one that should be pulling that assignment. It should be the fullback...but we have one that has proved fairly incapable of any task he is assigned.
Richardson is not the one that should be pulling that assignment. It should be the fullback...but we have one that has proved fairly incapable of any task he is assigned.
I completely understand that is should be a FB, or leaving the TE in to help.
But if Richardson does draw that assignment (poor gameplanning IMO) then it is a plus for the Bills.
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Nice to see a civilized discussion with an opposing fan... Who'd a thunk it???
Despite our improved run D vs Cinci, I think both teams will run effectively and it will come down to the passing game... and specifically pass protection.
Both Wheeeden and Fitzpatrick had horrible openers, but bounced back in week 2. Fitz's numbers weren't as glitzy, but he was very efficient. As goes their pass protection so will their performance and the game. Wheeeden has shown he'll stand in there, but no ability to extend plays if pressured. While not nimble, Fitz can scramble if need be... Yes?
Against Philly Jauron sprung some CB and FS blitzes that produced results... against Cinci not much.
Against Vick the front four put on a display of very disciplined pressure... against Dalton not so much... At DT next to Rubin (who is off to a good start) Billy Wynn, our rookie of of Boise St (doesn't every team have a rookie out of Boise St?), will start ahead of Hughes in place of Phil Taylor who's out. Billy's got a motor and brings good pressure up the middle.
Which brings us to my "Key to the Game"... Mario Williams vs Mitchell Schwartz...
What's up with SuperMario? Contract weighing him down? He's not off to the best start with only 3 Tkls and 0 sacks. Sunday he'll be across from our Rookie 2nd rounder, Schwartz...
I think it's safe to say we are going to try to give him some help. Since our FB hasn't shown much ability to do anything thru 2 wks that could mean Trent R. will be held in the backfield much of the afternoon. You'll also see Brandon Jackson do the same in obvious passing sit's...Question is.... do the Bills have a DC who can capitalize on the added attention we are sure to give Mario?
On this one he was abused week one but played very well week two against the Chiefs. Though the Stat line is not showing it. Against the Chiefs he was double and triple teamed at times, which left 1 on 1's against the DTs of Kyle Williams and Dareus and they totaled 3 sacks. Additionally, I saw a defense that did take advantage of the extra attention paid to Mario last week with press coverage, some blitzes and heck of alot of inside games. Their Run defense has been steller though the Stat line again does not really show it. Through the entire game last week they really only let up 39 yards until garbage time. Also same with the Jets, played well against the run.
Who is your NO 1 CB with Hayden gone because I would guess that is who would draw Stevie, and what type of game is he an off CB or a Press Guy?
Who is your NO 1 CB with Hayden gone because I would guess that is who would draw Stevie, and what type of game is he an off CB or a Press Guy?
With Hayden gone it would be the old pro, Sheldon Brown (who would challenge Stevie at the line), but Sheldon was held out of last week's game for reasons not clear to anyone... with "anyone" possibly including Shurmur.
If Brown is held out again (and right now he is shown to be starting per our depth chart)... I don't think we have a "number one"... maybe a number 1.5 at best. So as I said earlier, if you can protect Fitz, he'll have a good day... and we may not...
Mario is strictly a LDE and will play over your RT, at least that is what he has been all year.
As he was in Houston excepting last year's laughable attempt to convert him to a stand up OLB in Wade Phillip's 3-4. The torn pectoral saved him from embarrassment
That would mean keeping Richardson (who's a decent blocker) in to mop up against Mario in passing situations, or chip and go for a swing pass. They might try our FB Marecic, but the opinion is the guy is a worthless POS, both in blocking and about everything else.
Or Jackson may actually see the field this week. He was our designated pass sit blocking RB week 1...
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