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What's With All The Optimism?

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  • B baybrownsfan

    You are a fucking moron. I don't even want to waste my time denouncing everything you just said. I will point this out however. Kicking the field goal is undoubtedly the right choice in that decision with that amount of time and no time outs left. Also our best CB and our best DLineman were out. They will be back.

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    B browns1979 wrote on last edited by
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    @baybrownsfan said:

    You are a fucking moron. I don't even want to waste my time denouncing everything you just said. I will point this out however. Kicking the field goal is undoubtedly the right choice in that decision with that amount of time and no time outs left. Also our best CB and our best DLineman were out. They will be back.

    well, it's tough to denounce any of it when what is true is true.....we lost a not all that close game to a mediocre football team, and some of you guys in here are optimistic about the game. 2-14 teams lose to mediocre teams about like we lost yesterday.

    As for the fg/td decision, again, it makes no sense to give up your td chance when that is going to be a MUCH BETTER chance than what you will get if you recover an onside kick. You need a td anyways, and last I checked it is easier to score from inside the 10 than t is 60 yards away.

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    • XanthrosX Xanthros

      Wow 2nd post was a pathetic failure from another POS moron with nothing better to clamor on about. You want to explain what was so damn special about Indy's and Washingtons "exciting" young QB's that Weeden outthrew both of today. BTW I don't know if you didn't notice Luck throwing 3 picks last week?!? How about since all you have is hate for the Browns you go suck on RG3's nutz and slather their board with your pathetic jizz that keeps frothing from your moronic lips.

      You obviously don't know jack shit about building a football team so you just stick to the things you know: shopping, nail polish, your father's BMW, and your poor, rich drunk mother in the Caribbean.

      Welcome to the pit Billy Bandwagon

      Oh and I just want to point out one MAJOR failure on your part. It's about matchups week to week. Who gives a shit what happened last week. Yeah it's not a W in the column. We get that. Correct me if i'm wrong, but the Ravens are supposed to be hands down winner in the AFC North and just like us they lost to the Eagles by one point. But unlike us they didn't manage to get 5 turnovers and hold them to only 17 points.

      God this fanbase used to be intelligent and loyal to the "team". Who opened up the Black Hole of Stupidity in Believeland???

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      @xanthros said:

      Yeah it's not a W in the column. We get that.

      Not only was it not a W, but it was a rather convincing loss(browns never had the ball in second half with chance to tie....always down 10-14 pts for most all half) to a mediocre football team.

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        Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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        A mediocre football team that was in the playoffs last year and is being picked by a lot of people to be in the playoffs again this year. I'd rather see a win but considering how shitty we have looked for years, it was an entertaining game and we actually have some playmakers on this team.

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          @xanthros said:

          Yeah it's not a W in the column. We get that.

          Not only was it not a W, but it was a rather convincing loss(browns never had the ball in second half with chance to tie....always down 10-14 pts for most all half) to a mediocre football team.

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          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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          @browns1979 said:

          Not only was it not a W, but it was a rather convincing loss(browns never had the ball in second half with chance to tie....always down 10-14 pts for most all half) to a mediocre football team.

          dude, i'm the biggest pessimist here. my biggest complaint throughout camp was that i didn't like what we did with our first 2 picks (i liked claiborne at 5 and d. martin at 22) but that just goes to show how much i know because even last week i walked away a happy browns fan. if we would have won i would have been ecstatic. but a rookie performance by a rookie QB in his first pro game is not enough to start hitting the alarm button. the only real problem i saw last week was our OL and lack of depth at certain positions on defense. but all in all to play the eagles that tough was exciting and with all the turnovers by us we still almost won the game.

          this week we lost, yeah. but did you really think we were going to be 8-8 or better this year? if you are a true browns fan and can't walk away from yesterday's game seeing a bunch of positives, you're either blind or you're a steeler's troll. weeden was head and shoulders better than last week, TR looked/showed us why we spent a #3 first round pick on him. i saw the OL get together and actually push TR like 7 yds down the field when he was stopped. we still need to block better. there (once again) were guys in the backfield as soon as the ball was snapped. that's just missed assignments which can be corrected. yeah there were a couple of plays that hurt us, the fumble and jones reurn. but how about the questionable call where the receiver for the bengals was awarded the catch when what i saw is the guy never had control with 2 feet down, then went out of bounds? rookie refs. but weeden was zinging them in there, throwing some sideline fades with touch which were right on the money. and massaquoi is looking like the receiver i always thought he could be.

          and i'm not sure but didn't we have a couple of big plays called back because of holding or some other dumb penalty?

          i haven't seen this team play this good since mangini left and he didn't have the same talent. these guys are going though growing pains. i think once they get a win under their belt their strength will grow through team unity. we just gotta keep these guys together and not lose anymore talent through injuries or FA.

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            F Frenchie wrote on last edited by
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            When was the last game when our QB had a rating of 110 or better? And in that games, did the RB rush for over 100 yrds, and combine for 150 yrds with 2 TD's? Sorry, but I'm sticking with the bandwagon and our first round picks. Give this team 6 games to settle the rookies down and get some players back. I think the improvements will be incremental with every game played.

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              @browns1979 said:

              Not only was it not a W, but it was a rather convincing loss(browns never had the ball in second half with chance to tie....always down 10-14 pts for most all half) to a mediocre football team.

              dude, i'm the biggest pessimist here. my biggest complaint throughout camp was that i didn't like what we did with our first 2 picks (i liked claiborne at 5 and d. martin at 22) but that just goes to show how much i know because even last week i walked away a happy browns fan. if we would have won i would have been ecstatic. but a rookie performance by a rookie QB in his first pro game is not enough to start hitting the alarm button. the only real problem i saw last week was our OL and lack of depth at certain positions on defense. but all in all to play the eagles that tough was exciting and with all the turnovers by us we still almost won the game.

              this week we lost, yeah. but did you really think we were going to be 8-8 or better this year? if you are a true browns fan and can't walk away from yesterday's game seeing a bunch of positives, you're either blind or you're a steeler's troll. weeden was head and shoulders better than last week, TR looked/showed us why we spent a #3 first round pick on him. i saw the OL get together and actually push TR like 7 yds down the field when he was stopped. we still need to block better. there (once again) were guys in the backfield as soon as the ball was snapped. that's just missed assignments which can be corrected. yeah there were a couple of plays that hurt us, the fumble and jones reurn. but how about the questionable call where the receiver for the bengals was awarded the catch when what i saw is the guy never had control with 2 feet down, then went out of bounds? rookie refs. but weeden was zinging them in there, throwing some sideline fades with touch which were right on the money. and massaquoi is looking like the receiver i always thought he could be.

              and i'm not sure but didn't we have a couple of big plays called back because of holding or some other dumb penalty?

              i haven't seen this team play this good since mangini left and he didn't have the same talent. these guys are going though growing pains. i think once they get a win under their belt their strength will grow through team unity. we just gotta keep these guys together and not lose anymore talent through injuries or FA.

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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              @miktoxic said:

              this week we lost, yeah. but did you really think we were going to be 8-8 or better this year? if you are a true browns fan and can't walk away from yesterday's game seeing a bunch of positives, you're either blind or you're a steeler's troll. weeden was head and shoulders better than last week, TR looked/showed us why we spent a #3 first round pick on him. i saw the OL get together and actually push TR like 7 yds down the field when he was stopped. we still need to block better. there (once again) were guys in the backfield as soon as the ball was snapped. that's just missed assignments which can be corrected. yeah there were a couple of plays that hurt us, the fumble and jones reurn. but how about the questionable call where the receiver for the bengals was awarded the catch when what i saw is the guy never had control with 2 feet down, then went out of bounds? rookie refs. but weeden was zinging them in there, throwing some sideline fades with touch which were right on the money. and massaquoi is looking like the receiver i always thought he could be.

              and i'm not sure but didn't we have a couple of big plays called back because of holding or some other dumb penalty?

              ^+1 This team needs another CB besides Joe Haden, and better LBs other than Jackson who had another stellar game.

              They have to get those replacement officials retired pronto- there were bad calls galore, not only in the Browns game. Football Sunday night showed a play in the Steelers -Jets where one of the Jets wrs got flagrantly tackled, and no call?

              The PacMan TD was a result of guys not staying in their lanes- and the Hawkins TD was a busted play where our CB over ran, and tried to get contain on Dalton, who he thought was going to run.

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              • Mark OM Mark O

                A mediocre football team that was in the playoffs last year and is being picked by a lot of people to be in the playoffs again this year. I'd rather see a win but considering how shitty we have looked for years, it was an entertaining game and we actually have some playmakers on this team.

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                B browns1979 wrote on last edited by
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                @mark-o said:

                A mediocre football team that was in the playoffs last year and is being picked by a lot of people to be in the playoffs again this year. I'd rather see a win but considering how shitty we have looked for years, it was an entertaining game and we actually have some playmakers on this team.

                no, they are not generally thought of as a playoff team this year. After week 1 there o/u for wins was 7.5.....that's not the o/u of a playoff team.

                They are generally thought of as an average at best team.

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                  Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                  Im sure you enjoyed last years prolific offense that Colt McFrye led right? All those 10 and 12 point totals.

                  Some people will find anything to bitch about..

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                    Im sure you enjoyed last years prolific offense that Colt McFrye led right? All those 10 and 12 point totals.

                    Some people will find anything to bitch about..

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                    @mark-o said:

                    Im sure you enjoyed last years prolific offense that Colt McFrye led right? All those 10 and 12 point totals.

                    Some people will find anything to bitch about..

                    ummm...I hardly think a fairly convincing loss to a mediocre team is an unrealistic thing to 'bitch about'.

                    And no, the browns under colt mccoy were not good either. In fact he sucked/sucks. I have no interest in getting into a colt/weeden debate because I will freely admit they both suck. Trying to figure out which one sucks more is a meaningless exercise.

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                      Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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                      ^ Did you notice how the topic keeps changing after you nail MarkO with actual facts?

                      AS for you topic.. the answer is, "It's September."

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                        There is absolutely no way of knowing whether or not Weeden sucks at this point. 2 NFL starts is not even close to being enough to make that judgement. He certainly sucked in week 1. I was there and saw just how bad the suckage was. Last week he looked like a guy who has the abilities to be a very good QB. After a season and a half of Colt and his noodle arm throws and piss poor decisions, we all know what he is, he's a career backup. Nice work if you can get it.

                        You can say it's a fairly convincing loss....you can also say that a glass is half empty. Some people choose to find the positives. I think for a team that is widely being predicted as the worst team in the NFL to play a team on the road that made the playoffs last year (and being predicted to be there again by some) close and be in the game in the 4th quarter, is a positive and something to build on. I can pretty much guarentee that if last years team falls behind like we did this past week, the game isn't a 7 point loss or even a 10 point loss if you want to throw out the late FG.

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