Let's Go Corner Back With 1St Pick Next Year

DieHardBrownsFan

@soju said:

http://espncleveland...17&post_id=5081

This is sobering. We need to go DB next year first round. Our Offense is all but set, all be it raw. Our defense is all but set (if the young LB's are what they advertised in the first game) except the DBs.

Draft that guy opposite of Haden, a stud, and we have a team ready to catapult into the playoffs next year and make a Super Bowl.

WR.

Soju

@diehardbrownsfan said:

WR.

With Mo Mass exploding this year and Little picking it up over the last game AND Gordon hasn't even entered the stage yet (he will bring one more offensive weapon), I'd say we're ok at WR for the time being. We are getting abused in the passing game without Haden. Our attention has to be focused there RIGHT NOW.

Harry Buffalo

I would say wait until after the 16th game is over before we make any kind of prediction for what the Browns need to grab. CB/FS is a need we can see right now, but Weeden could explode and force the new ownership to go for Barkley or another QB coming out and our WR can shit their pants and make that #1 priority. I don't think MoMass having his first good game since his rookie season makes me feel like he has turned the corner.

ClevelandBigDawg

Number 1 WRs that are FA after next year are:

Mike Wallace

Wes Welker

Greg Jennings

Dwayne Bowe

Now obviously they may or may not re-sign, but we do have enough cap room for any of them.

CBs include:

Brent Grimes (would be coming off of injury)

Jabari Greer

Dominique Rogers-Cromartie

Quentin Jammer

Aqib Talib

Jason McCourty

Do any of them solve our problem? Not so sure, but all of them are better than what we have other than Haden. There are some other CBs too that could fill the void that I didn't mention.

So it might be one of those things we wait to see what we do in Free Agency. I wouldn't throw out OL, QB, or LB just yet either.

BendMeOver

Two weeks into the season and you're worried about the draft already?

The Gipper

@harry-buffalo said:

I would say wait until after the 16th game is over before we make any kind of prediction for what the Browns need to grab. CB/FS is a need we can see right now, but Weeden could explode and force the new ownership to go for Barkley or another QB coming out and our WR can shit their pants and make that #1 priority. I don't think MoMass having his first good game since his rookie season makes me feel like he has turned the corner.

Quit with the fucking Barkley. We have Colt McCoy...who is a better version of Matt Barkley.

IMO the Browns will need LBs or DBs

Flyin J

S, LB, CB in that order....Hagg is a liability

Zombo

@the-gipper said:

Quit with the fucking Barkley. We have Colt McCoy...

Yes, we do. And we have a rookie first-round pick who just threw for 322 yards and 2 TDs in his second NFL start.

Colt threw for over 300 yards once in 21 starts and had just one TD in 61 attempts in a 31-13 loss in that game.

I think Heckert has done a good job at addressing QB, RB and WR this year ... we'll probably be supplying the defense early and often next year.

But I think we can all agree .. we aren't drafting fucking Barkley.

Zombo

BrownsKidd

My vote is this... Barring a Weeden melt down. We go after the best LB the NCAA has to offer. We need a shut LB or 2.

The Gipper

Zombo said:

Yes, we do. And we have a rookie first-round pick who just threw for 322 yards and 2 TDs in his second NFL start.

Colt threw for over 300 yards once in 21 starts and had just one TD in 61 attempts in a 31-13 loss in that game.

I think Heckert has done a good job at addressing QB, RB and WR this year ... we'll probably be supplying the defense early and often next year.

But I think we can all agree .. we aren't drafting fucking Barkley.

Zombo

Yes, my point is that Barkley isn't as good as Colt even. We are better off with Weeden. Maybe Barkley could displace Thaddeus Lewis. Maybe not.

The Gipper

Yes, I know, absurd to bring up after only two games....but it is all part of the planning.

Top prospects Browns should be looking at with #1 pick:

Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU

Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia

Dee Milliner CB Alabama

Sam Montgomery DE LSU

Eric Reid FS LSU

David Amerson CB NC St.

Sean Porter OLB Tex A&M

TJ McDonald FS USC

miktoxic

well if the honey badger (mattieu) hadn't gotten booted out for doing stoopid shit at LSU i'd be all over that pick. even their CBs they have now are very good. something about LSU and corner backs. (used to be ohio state).

for once i agree with HB that it's way too early to tell what we'll need going forward after this year. last year a WR would have been a good pick seeing as what we had at the time of the draft. but they picked up gordon. no one is saying massaqua is a #1 receiver but he has shown he's not afraid of catching the ball in traffic. considering the lick harrison put on him i didn't think that his psyche could handle that therefor rendering him useless and maybe looking at the exit door. but he has been the most solid receiver thus far and if the other guys follow his lead i think we're ok at receiver.

now the OL. if schwartz can't get it together then we've got to look elsewhere either through the draft or FA. so that's one pick. LBs (plural) for sure.

of course like HB said a lot can happen between now and then. injuries especially. BUT even if weeden stinks it up from here on out there is NO WAY we should use another pick on a qb. that would make 3 picks at that position in 4 years. heckert would lose his job on that alone.

BadNewsBrowns

Draft talk already?!?!?

Take the best player available - don't tunnel vision for position.

Harry Buffalo

@the-gipper said:

Quit with the fucking Barkley. We have Colt McCoy...who is a better version of Matt Barkley.

IMO the Browns will need LBs or DBs

Zombo said:

Yes, we do. And we have a rookie first-round pick who just threw for 322 yards and 2 TDs in his second NFL start.

Colt threw for over 300 yards once in 21 starts and had just one TD in 61 attempts in a 31-13 loss in that game.

I think Heckert has done a good job at addressing QB, RB and WR this year ... we'll probably be supplying the defense early and often next year.

But I think we can all agree .. we aren't drafting fucking Barkley.

Zombo

Hence why I said if Weeden implodes. A new ownership is not going to stick with a QB they didn't pick, especially if he doesn't perform well, regardless of what round he was selected in. Also why I said "or any other QB's they would be interested in." I do think Barkley is the most WCO ready QB coming out next year in the draft considering he has started in a WCO system his whole time at USC but my opinion will always be go with the guy THEY think is the best pick. I'm no NFL scout.

Zombo

@harry-buffalo said:

Hence why I said if Weeden implodes. A new ownership is not going to stick with a QB they didn't pick, especially if he doesn't perform well, regardless of what round he was selected in. Also why I said "or any other QB's they would be interested in." I do think Barkley is the most WCO ready QB coming out next year in the draft considering he has started in a WCO system his whole time at USC but my opinion will always be go with the guy THEY think is the best pick. I'm no NFL scout.

If anyone goes, it will be Homgren, Shurmur, and the whole WCO thing.

Weeden isn't going anywhere.

Zombo

hoorta

Endymion said:

Two weeks into the season and you're worried about the draft already?

I agree- it's way too early. Those may be perceived weaknesses now- but there are young guys manning those spots- they could develop into solid players by the end of the year.

nickers

Zombo said:

Yes, we do. And we have a rookie first-round pick who just threw for 322 yards and 2 TDs in his second NFL start.

Colt threw for over 300 yards once in 21 starts and had just one TD in 61 attempts in a 31-13 loss in that game.

I think Heckert has done a good job at addressing QB, RB and WR this year ... we'll probably be supplying the defense early and often next year.

But I think we can all agree .. we aren't drafting fucking Barkley.

Zombo

Lets not ignore replacing Lauvao either...still not sold on him.

DanInNYC

XxDaBuckeyexX said:

S, LB, CB in that order....Hagg is a liability

I agree with those three as our first picks, but would flip CB and Safety. CB is a more valuable position in my mind; the problem is that this is not supposed to be a very strong CB draft class. Also, in later rounds I would like to see them grab an OG- because I am not sold on Pinkston and Lauvao yet- and a WR. MoMass is still one concussion away from being the Matt Damon puppet in Team America, and Little and Gordon need to show improvement as the season progresses.

rich4eagle

@soju said:

http://espncleveland...17&post_id=5081

This is sobering. We need to go DB next year first round. Our Offense is all but set, all be it raw. Our defense is all but set (if the young LB's are what they advertised in the first game) except the DBs.

Draft that guy opposite of Haden, a stud, and we have a team ready to catapult into the playoffs next year and make a Super Bowl.

When are you gonna get it, scoring wins games, and that is offense, and we cannot score going on twenty years

BadNewsBrowns

Well we went offense in 4 of our first five picks this year?

Spent next years second on a receiver so I don't know how much more you could spend on the offense, it's time for these guys to pan out.

We need some playmakers on defense, ballhawking safety,dominant pass rushing end,sideline to sideline freak linebacker - we're going to need at least 1 of those if we want to even think about being a contender.