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  • Billsfan B
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    B Billsfan wrote on last edited by
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    Gipper,

    I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

    Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

    Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

    Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

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      Gipper,

      I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

      Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

      Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

      Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

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      runyon27R runyon27 wrote on last edited by
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      @billsfan said:

      Gipper,

      I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

      Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

      Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

      Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

      I haven't really seen Spiller play all that much since college, if I were to compare the two I would say Spiller is more explosive, but TR the better all around back. Spiller was deadly in college as a pass receiver. The Browns seems to be better against the run in general then they were last yr, not shut down good but better than last yr from what I have seen. To me for the Browns to win, we have to get similar performance out of Weeden and Richardson and do much better job in coverage than last game. If we do those 3 things I like our chances, if we fail at any of those we are probably in for a long afternoon.

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        Gipper,

        I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

        Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

        Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

        Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @billsfan said:

        Gipper,

        I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

        Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

        Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

        Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

        I am not sure where you are coming off with this "great body of work" that C.J. Spiller has going for him. This is his third year in the league and he has not been all that and a bag of chips so far. His first year in 2010 he gained all of 283 yards. Last year he gained 561 yards. Gee that would be an average of 35 yards a game over a 16 game schedule. I would say he has underperformed, particlularly given his draft status. This year, yes, through 2 games he seems on fire. But not so far in his career. I realize he may have missed some time due to injury....but that is part of the bargain.

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          @billsfan said:

          Gipper,

          I get your comments, and can agree and understand that. With the Exception of Spiller.

          Spiller has been doing it for more than 2 games. Did very well at the end of last season with a makeshift OLine. Think his AVG was still above 5 a carry.

          Spiller also has the draft status (though I know it doesn't mean much) but was also a top pick in the draft. I dont know I just tend to lean to the guy that has done it for a body of work in this league. So that is why I would give the edge to Spiller in terms of RB right now.

          Though I think Richardson is a very good back and will be a great back IMO if he stays healthy, I am more on the until he proves it over a body of work I could never rank him over someone that has you know.

          I am not sure where you are coming off with this "great body of work" that C.J. Spiller has going for him. This is his third year in the league and he has not been all that and a bag of chips so far. His first year in 2010 he gained all of 283 yards. Last year he gained 561 yards. Gee that would be an average of 35 yards a game over a 16 game schedule. I would say he has underperformed, particlularly given his draft status. This year, yes, through 2 games he seems on fire. But not so far in his career. I realize he may have missed some time due to injury....but that is part of the bargain.

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          @the-gipper said:

          I am not sure where you are coming off with this "great body of work" that C.J. Spiller has going for him. This is his third year in the league and he has not been all that and a bag of chips so far. His first year in 2010 he gained all of 283 yards. Last year he gained 561 yards. Gee that would be an average of 35 yards a game over a 16 game schedule. I would say he has underperformed, particlularly given his draft status. This year, yes, through 2 games he seems on fire. But not so far in his career. I realize he may have missed some time due to injury....but that is part of the bargain.

          in 2011 Spiller started the last 5 games after Fred went down with Broken Leg.

          Gained 446 yards in relief of Fred, with a Line that had NO LT, NO Center, LG moving all over the place. In his 7 (counting this years Jets cause Fred went early) games (as a starter) these are his stats.

          96 ATT 738 yards (7.6 avg) 6 TDs

          26 rec 244 yards (9.4 avg) 2 TDs

          So he is AVG over 100 a game with almost a rushing TD a game in the run game

          Those numbers over his last 7 games would put him up in the top backs of the NFL

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            @the-gipper said:

            I am not sure where you are coming off with this "great body of work" that C.J. Spiller has going for him. This is his third year in the league and he has not been all that and a bag of chips so far. His first year in 2010 he gained all of 283 yards. Last year he gained 561 yards. Gee that would be an average of 35 yards a game over a 16 game schedule. I would say he has underperformed, particlularly given his draft status. This year, yes, through 2 games he seems on fire. But not so far in his career. I realize he may have missed some time due to injury....but that is part of the bargain.

            in 2011 Spiller started the last 5 games after Fred went down with Broken Leg.

            Gained 446 yards in relief of Fred, with a Line that had NO LT, NO Center, LG moving all over the place. In his 7 (counting this years Jets cause Fred went early) games (as a starter) these are his stats.

            96 ATT 738 yards (7.6 avg) 6 TDs

            26 rec 244 yards (9.4 avg) 2 TDs

            So he is AVG over 100 a game with almost a rushing TD a game in the run game

            Those numbers over his last 7 games would put him up in the top backs of the NFL

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @billsfan said:

            in 2011 Spiller started the last 5 games after Fred went down with Broken Leg.

            Gained 446 yards in relief of Fred, with a Line that had NO LT, NO Center, LG moving all over the place. In his 7 (counting this years Jets cause Fred went early) games (as a starter) these are his stats.

            96 ATT 738 yards (7.6 avg) 6 TDs

            26 rec 244 yards (9.4 avg) 2 TDs

            So he is AVG over 100 a game with almost a rushing TD a game in the run game

            Those numbers over his last 7 games would put him up in the top backs of the NFL

            I don't know where you are coming up with those number for him. Here is the PFR stat sheet on him:

            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SpilC.00.htm

            They have him starting in 11 games, playing in all 16 with only 561 yards rushing for the entire year, with 4 TDs.

            Again, where are you getting those inflated numbers?

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              miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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              quote name='Zombo' timestamp='1348068181' post='304114']

              Don't be a dick, EmDiggy is cool ... he just needs to pick us this week.

              Zombo

              don't be a dick? when i work in an industry that get killed by bootleg shit that is being sold everyday all over the web? when people think they can just arbitrarily use the logos from a league or company such as the NFL and it's teams without any consequence?

              what the hell i'll create a zombo logo without your permission and put the browns colors logo etc. all over shirts and sell them in the parking lots before each game. you ok with that? cuz you ain't gonna see a dime.

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                Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                don't be a dick? when i work in an industry that get killed by bootleg shit that is being sold everyday all over the web? when people think they can just arbitrarily use the logos from a league or company such as the NFL and it's teams without any consequence?

                what the hell i'll create a zombo logo without your permission and put the browns colors logo etc. all over shirts and sell them in the parking lots before each game. you ok with that? cuz you ain't gonna see a dime.

                You are still being a dick.

                Zombo

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                  massbrownsfanM massbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                  Fuck spiller and Fitzpatrick Play the game Beat the bills period he said she said bullshit who cares thats why they play the game Bils wil be defeated this weekend to Fukin bad.

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                    H Hunt Daddy wrote on last edited by
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                    I gotta disagree with this Spiller over Richardson thing. Richardson will be so much better than Spiller will be. Spiller may have had a great few games, but you gotta remember he couldn't even beat out 30 year old Fred Jackson and only took over once he was out for the season.

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                    • Z Zombo

                      @emdiggy said:

                      Good morning Browns fans! Good luck this week!

                      Em

                      C'mon man, pick us one time!

                      This is the week we break through!

                      Zombo

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                      E EmDiggy wrote on last edited by
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                      Zombo said:

                      C'mon man, pick us one time!

                      This is the week we break through!

                      Zombo

                      LOL! I was Tempted but.. I need consistency from you guys first!

                      @miktoxic said:

                      i just want to know who this guy is. i mean anybody with a decent camera and some editing and post prod software could pull this off.

                      wonder if he has a license with the NFL to use their logo and their team's logos?

                      could be a costly little mistake.

                      Looks & Seems easy right? I think you're paying attention TOO close and missing the obvious element with the videos.

                      @the-gipper said:

                      Well, his shows seem to be fairly professionally made. I think he said he played in the league for a bit....or at least played at a high level college program. I also assume since he is using it that he does have a license to employ the NFL logo.

                      The question is: how does he earn money from doing this. Don't see any ads on his video.

                      Not that it is any of my business. Maybe its just a hobby.

                      Thisclose Gippper! Didn't play in the NFL, I played at Univ of Louisiana! Close enough LOL

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                      • Z Zombo

                        don't be a dick? when i work in an industry that get killed by bootleg shit that is being sold everyday all over the web? when people think they can just arbitrarily use the logos from a league or company such as the NFL and it's teams without any consequence?

                        what the hell i'll create a zombo logo without your permission and put the browns colors logo etc. all over shirts and sell them in the parking lots before each game. you ok with that? cuz you ain't gonna see a dime.

                        You are still being a dick.

                        Zombo

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                        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                        Zombo said:

                        You are still being a dick.

                        Zombo

                        this is me being a dick:

                        zomboass.jpg

                        soon to be sold on ebay and local retailers nationwide and at a tailgate near you. all proceeds go to 'don'tdownplaysomeoneelse'slivelyhood.com charity.

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                          Zombo said:

                          You are still being a dick.

                          Zombo

                          this is me being a dick:

                          zomboass.jpg

                          soon to be sold on ebay and local retailers nationwide and at a tailgate near you. all proceeds go to 'don'tdownplaysomeoneelse'slivelyhood.com charity.

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                          Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
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                          @miktoxic said:

                          this is me being a dick:

                          zomboass.jpg

                          soon to be sold on ebay and local retailers nationwide and at a tailgate near you. all proceeds go to 'don'tdownplaysomeoneelse'slivelyhood.com charity.

                          That is not being a dick, that is entrepreneurial.

                          But "doo dah, doo dah" is really dated. You gotta make it sell with the kids.

                          Zombo

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                            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                            well once all of the past and present members of the glee club come out of the closet (including yourself) maybe they can be inspired and add a new tag line.

                            maybe 'doo dee doo dee' on my 'pee pee pee pee? 😆 :lol:

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                            • miktoxicM miktoxic

                              well once all of the past and present members of the glee club come out of the closet (including yourself) maybe they can be inspired and add a new tag line.

                              maybe 'doo dee doo dee' on my 'pee pee pee pee? 😆 :lol:

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                              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                              @miktoxic said:

                              well once all of the past and present members of the glee club come out of the closet (including yourself) maybe they can be inspired and add a new tag line.

                              maybe 'doo dee doo dee' on my 'pee pee pee pee? 😆 :lol:

                              How about "Zombo takes it up the ass. Every day I'm Shuffeling" or something.

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