Anderson's contract solved
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If you honestly are a Browns fan, then you are a homer....rooting for someone so much just to prove a point and end up rooting against your team
That's a good point and I often wonder if anybody ever explained that to the 70,000+ who filled the stadium every Sunday intent on booing every play that DA was in the game and getting chants of BRAY-DEE started.
Apparently you haven't had the chance to speak with any of those folks yet.
That's a good point and I often wonder if anybody ever explained that to the 70,000+ who filled the stadium every Sunday intent on booing every play that DA was in the game and getting chants of BRAY-DEE started.
Apparently you haven't had the chance to speak with any of those folks yet.
My question was for you, not them.....can you answer it or just keep avoiding it. Secondly, its one thing cheering for someone if you like them, especially if someone has had many really bad games, its another to hope bad on the organization just so your guy wins...
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here is what you dont realize, most "true" Browns fan would cheer for DA, BQ or The giant milk dud if they were winning, it doesnt really matter to the most of us who is playing if we are winning. Its not being BQ fags as you put it, its called, we want to win, and the chances were better with BQ becasue we obviously had seen what DA put up...if BQ ends up sucking, then we will move him as well, and cheer for the next. Im a Browns fan, I cheer for the Browns, not one individual player. I liked LeBron too, I think he is a great player and generally a great guy, I cheer for the Cavs, if and when LeBron goes to NY, I will not start cheering for NY, I will still cheer for the Cavs, I will still like LeBron and hope he does great somewhere else but my first priority is my team, and thats just it, the Browns are MY TEAM, not the players on it
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Anderson is guaranteed 14.5 mil.
8 mil has already been paid.
The rest of the guarantee.....is a 5 mil roster bonus due in March, and a 1.5 mil salary for 2009.
If the Browns were to cut Anderson they would have to pay him the 6.5 mil and they would also take a 6.5 mil cap hit in 2009.
None of 2010 is guaranteed, neither the roster bonus nor the salary.
In related news....shep's "left nut" just got nervous.
Anderson is guaranteed 14.5 mil.
Gauranteed in this regard is money NOT part of the base or performance bonuses.
8 mil has already been paid.
Yes, that is correct, but that's signing bonus, so it's spread across 3 seasons of the contract.
The rest of the guarantee.....is a 5 mil roster bonus due in March, and a 1.5 mil salary for 2009.
But a roster bonus is only given IF the player is still part of the roster on the designated date.
If the Browns were to cut Anderson they would have to pay him the 6.5 mil and they would also take a 6.5 mil cap hit in 2009.
It's because that 6.5 is part of the 8 that was spread apart 3 seasons.
None of 2010 is guaranteed, neither the roster bonus nor the salary.
In related news....shep's "left nut" just got nervous.
Bull, learn to read an NFL contract.
You're the only nut that nervous, don't worry though, DA is still going to give you that pearl necklace you always wanted.
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That's a good point and I often wonder if anybody ever explained that to the 70,000+ who filled the stadium every Sunday intent on booing every play that DA was in the game and getting chants of BRAY-DEE started.
Apparently you haven't had the chance to speak with any of those folks yet.
My question was for you, not them.....can you answer it or just keep avoiding it. Secondly, its one thing cheering for someone if you like them, especially if someone has had many really bad games, its another to hope bad on the organization just so your guy wins...
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here is what you dont realize, most "true" Browns fan would cheer for DA, BQ or The giant milk dud if they were winning, it doesnt really matter to the most of us who is playing if we are winning. Its not being BQ fags as you put it, its called, we want to win, and the chances were better with BQ becasue we obviously had seen what DA put up...if BQ ends up sucking, then we will move him as well, and cheer for the next. Im a Browns fan, I cheer for the Browns, not one individual player. I liked LeBron too, I think he is a great player and generally a great guy, I cheer for the Cavs, if and when LeBron goes to NY, I will not start cheering for NY, I will still cheer for the Cavs, I will still like LeBron and hope he does great somewhere else but my first priority is my team, and thats just it, the Browns are MY TEAM, not the players on it
My question was for you, not them.....can you answer it or just keep avoiding it. Secondly, its one thing cheering for someone if you like them, especially if someone has had many really bad games, its another to hope bad on the organization just so your guy wins...
If you wore your Browns gear to the bar every Sunday as the only Brown and Orange fan in town to watch the Browns hang 27 points on the Ravens while the crowd is booing the QBs ass off and screaming that he's the root of all the team's problems you'd understand where I'm coming from.
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Anderson is guaranteed 14.5 mil.
Gauranteed in this regard is money NOT part of the base or performance bonuses.
8 mil has already been paid.
Yes, that is correct, but that's signing bonus, so it's spread across 3 seasons of the contract.
The rest of the guarantee.....is a 5 mil roster bonus due in March, and a 1.5 mil salary for 2009.
But a roster bonus is only given IF the player is still part of the roster on the designated date.
If the Browns were to cut Anderson they would have to pay him the 6.5 mil and they would also take a 6.5 mil cap hit in 2009.
It's because that 6.5 is part of the 8 that was spread apart 3 seasons.
None of 2010 is guaranteed, neither the roster bonus nor the salary.
In related news....shep's "left nut" just got nervous.
Bull, learn to read an NFL contract.
You're the only nut that nervous, don't worry though, DA is still going to give you that pearl necklace you always wanted.
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Quinn is the starter and Anderson will be cut!
Lerner has had enough of the Savage Crap and as soon as he gets his GM in place he will start taking out all of the Sewage Garbage and that will be guys like Anderson that will dropped off at the curb to be picked-up to go to the landfill.
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My question was for you, not them.....can you answer it or just keep avoiding it. Secondly, its one thing cheering for someone if you like them, especially if someone has had many really bad games, its another to hope bad on the organization just so your guy wins...
If you wore your Browns gear to the bar every Sunday as the only Brown and Orange fan in town to watch the Browns hang 27 points on the Ravens while the crowd is booing the QBs ass off and screaming that he's the root of all the team's problems you'd understand where I'm coming from.
If you wore your Browns gear to the bar every Sunday as the only Brown and Orange fan in town to watch the Browns hang 27 points on the Ravens while the crowd is booing the QBs ass off and screaming that he's the root of all the team's problems you'd understand where I'm coming from.
Honestly I wouldnt, if you were a Browns fan, you would want the organization to win, not the player, and it wouldnt bother you if you loved that player regardless of his play.
and BTW, I know how it is to be the only person in town supporting the Browns. I still dont understand your logic, why do you care if people are booing DA....shouldnt you be more concerned with the Browns winning regardless of QB
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Ugh, we have been over this far to many times. I am too lazy at the moment when I did all the research to dig up DA's contract as well as explain how the cap works, including roster bonuses.
To put it simply, the only money guaranteed is the signing bonus. The reason CLE would take a cap hit, and the hit they would take, is against the signing bonus they pad DA. That is because signing bonuses are spread out over the length of the contract, for cap purposes. If a player is cut before June 1 and the end of the contract, the remaining pro-rated signing bonus hits the teams cap the next season. DA got 7M as a signing bonus, which was to be spread over 3 years in the cap. By cutting him before March 1, CLE owes DA no money, but would take a cap hit of 4.66M (the remaining pro-rated signing bonus).
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My question was for you, not them.....can you answer it or just keep avoiding it. Secondly, its one thing cheering for someone if you like them, especially if someone has had many really bad games, its another to hope bad on the organization just so your guy wins...
If you wore your Browns gear to the bar every Sunday as the only Brown and Orange fan in town to watch the Browns hang 27 points on the Ravens while the crowd is booing the QBs ass off and screaming that he's the root of all the team's problems you'd understand where I'm coming from.
If you wore your Browns gear to the bar every Sunday as the only Brown and Orange fan in town to watch the Browns hang 27 points on the Ravens while the crowd is booing the QBs ass off and screaming that he's the root of all the team's problems you'd understand where I'm coming from.
So what you're saying is people who aren't even Browns fans are booing DA's performance. What does that tell you when non-fans of the Browns are booing him?
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how on earth could one think with a h.c. coaching change ,,the crowd chanting brady-brady,, and booing when anderson comes on the field,, and cheering when he gets injured ,,could think the front office,, or new coach,, would bring him back on the field and try to shove him down a already weak fan bases throat,,that would be totally assanine by any owner of any sports team period..lets face it the browns fans far exceeding this board want quinn period...
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how on earth could one think with a h.c. coaching change ,,the crowd chanting brady-brady,, and booing when anderson comes on the field,, and cheering when he gets injured ,,could think the front office,, or new coach,, would bring him back on the field and try to shove him down a already weak fan bases throat,,that would be totally assanine by any owner of any sports team period..lets face it the browns fans far exceeding this board want quinn period...
how on earth could one think with a h.c. coaching change ,,the crowd chanting brady-brady,, and booing when anderson comes on the field,, and cheering when he gets injured ,,could think the front office,, or new coach,, would bring him back on the field and try to shove him down a already weak fan bases throat,,that would be totally assanine by any owner of any sports team period..lets face it the browns fans far exceeding this board want quinn period...
No kidding. Not to mention Steelers fans who will tell you they'd rather see DA because they know Quinn is better, and will say it. I have run into so many non-Browns fans who ask "why the hell is DA starting"
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