It's Obvious That Weeden Doesn't Understand What Separation Is In The Nfl.
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He's used to Blackmon being 4-5 steps ahead of receivers, and he's not understanding that 1 step is normal separation in the NFL. He underthrew Massaquoi on the sideline, and so far he's only hitting wide open WR's.
This is the main improvement I think all of us need to see out of Weeden. He needs to show he can make the throws that AREN'T easy, and he's not doing that right now.
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This guy doesn't have a lot of time to learn seeing he is older than most rookies. He was a wasted pick IMO . In addition, you have shetty head coach that won't help the situation.
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Weeden may be the least clutch person in the history of ever.
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This guy doesn't have a lot of time to learn seeing he is older than most rookies. He was a wasted pick IMO . In addition, you have shetty head coach that won't help the situation.
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LOSER!!!!!!
Done he is the anti-sipe
OMG i have never fallen asleep watching a browns game until this guy got on the field.
Please for the love of got bring back Couch
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Yeah. Shurmur is probably the worst head coach in the Nfl, but he doesn't throw the ball for Weeden. Many of his throws were GOD awful today.
Yeah. Shurmur is probably the worst head coach in the Nfl, but he doesn't throw the ball for Weeden. Many of his throws were GOD awful today.
Ummm I think you made that up, I watched the game and that wasn't the case. I saw some decision I didn't like, like throwing a 2 yd pass when you are running 2 minute drill. I saw a couple of passes that could of been better, but nothing I would qualify as god awful. Lots of issues, god awful throws wasn't one of them. Not enough holes, too many drops on wide open receivers, no pressure from the D to name a few.
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I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
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I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
Thanks for the breakdown, Boomer.
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Ohh my bad.
So instead of talking about his weaknesses I should just say "Weeden is really bad"
Riveting stuff
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I think the point is that Weeden is really not our biggest problem. We need to be able to run the ball, get pressure on the qb, play better in punt coverage, and call better plays on offense. Additionally, our Wrs could run better routes and catch the ball more consistently, and we could stop making dumb penalties, ohh and our DBs could start making plays instead of doing the minimum. And then finally, Weeden could have played a little better.
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I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
Weeden isn't the reason we lost the last 2 games. He has work to do but he is hardly our biggest problem right now.
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I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
Weeden isn't the reason we lost the last 2 games. He has work to do but he is hardly our biggest problem right now.
Weeden isn't the reason we lost the last 2 games. He has work to do but he is hardly our biggest problem right now.
Except I'm not pissed about losing, I know we're gonna lose a lot of games this year.
I'm looking specifically at Weeden's weakness...which is a HUGE weakness. If a WR isn't open, don't expect Weeden to make a great throw.
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This guy doesn't have a lot of time to learn seeing he is older than most rookies. He was a wasted pick IMO . In addition, you have shetty head coach that won't help the situation.
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I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
I was getting more at the fact he doesn't know when to throw the ball..he waits until a WR has a few steps to throw it when he needs to know when they have an inch on them..then throw it.
This is true, though not as slow as McCoy at reading the open man, but it would help if all the receivers weren't rookies or poorly coached and he had a clue where the hell they were going.
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I'm not a Wheeeeeeden fan (should be obvious to any regular here), but this thread is way off base.
Several passes today were forced to targets that were open by no steps...
Several were made to targets that were only open one step...
Only once did a WR break "wide open" today and he was hit for a TD... better than the throws 5' over their head in Gm 1.
The problem is not BW's arm... the problems are:
- the WR's are not separating;
- Wheeeeeeden is locking in on his primary way too much... starring them down from the snap... this is even true in friggin' screen passes which we got nothing out of again today; and
- when he comes off his primary (and he did a handful of times today) he is now bound and determined to throw to his 2ndary... which he did twice today... with one a near pick 6.
As for the running... It's now obvious that the HC is not letting him. Three times today he ran TR into an 8 man front for a net of about 2"... and that's being generous.
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I'm not a Wheeeeeeden fan (should be obvious to any regular here), but this thread is way off base.
Several passes today were forced to targets that were open by no steps...
Several were made to targets that were only open one step...
Only once did a WR break "wide open" today and he was hit for a TD... better than the throws 5' over their head in Gm 1.
The problem is not BW's arm... the problems are:
- the WR's are not separating;
- Wheeeeeeden is locking in on his primary way too much... starring them down from the snap... this is even true in friggin' screen passes which we got nothing out of again today; and
- when he comes off his primary (and he did a handful of times today) he is now bound and determined to throw to his 2ndary... which he did twice today... with one a near pick 6.
As for the running... It's now obvious that the HC is not letting him. Three times today he ran TR into an 8 man front for a net of about 2"... and that's being generous.
I'm not a Wheeeeeeden fan (should be obvious to any regular here), but this thread is way off base.
Several passes today were forced to targets that were open by no steps...
Several were made to targets that were only open one step...
Only once did a WR break "wide open" today and he was hit for a TD... better than the throws 5' over their head in Gm 1.
The problem is not BW's arm... the problems are:
- the WR's are not separating;
- Wheeeeeeden is locking in on his primary way too much... starring them down from the snap... this is even true in friggin' screen passes which we got nothing out of again today; and
- when he comes off his primary (and he did a handful of times today) he is now bound and determined to throw to his 2ndary... which he did twice today... with one a near pick 6.
As for the running... It's now obvious that the HC is not letting him. Three times today he ran TR into an 8 man front for a net of about 2"... and that's being generous.
'The WR's aren't separating' is such an overly used excuse.
Guys like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, good QB's recognize when a guy has A STEP on a DB and gets it to them where they can catch it. That's what separates average QB's from the good ones. It's not like everyone of their receivers has 3-5 steps on every throw, but they get it to their WR's.
When a QB isn't making tough throws fans always jump to the separation excuse.
And the fact that his only TD pass was to a WIDE OPEN WR doesn't help Weeden, it just shows he can make the throws any QB is supposed to make(and he doesn't even do that consistently.) I want to see him make throws to WR's that aren't that open..that's what this thread is about. He hasn't showed us any of that.
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Wow really, get off the guys jock already, hes still kinda new if you have forgotten already. Its about pressure if you ask me. Just like Flacco, if you put him under pressure he makes poor decisions. But for gods sakes he is still hampered by coaching, avg receivers, and less than stellar off line. It takes time for the team to truly gel. If they still look this bad week 10 than maybe we should be a little more concerned...
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Weeden may be the least clutch person in the history of ever.
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Ohh my bad.
So instead of talking about his weaknesses I should just say "Weeden is really bad"
Riveting stuff
Ohh my bad.
So instead of talking about his weaknesses I should just say "Weeden is really bad"
Riveting stuff
No, I was merely pointing out that, while you think you sounded like you knew what you were saying...you, in fact, did not.
A la Boomer Esiason.
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