Jet Fan for Mangini
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I know a lot of jets fan might tell you guys bad things about mangini, but they are mostly clueless. mangini took herm edwards no talent soft pussies and turn the team into a winner. we had 1 prowbowler in 2006, 0 in 2007 and 7 in 2008, mangini is a hardass like parcell and takes no excuses from anyone, and whoever doesn't fit his mold will find himself on the outside looking in. mangini is a hard working intense guy and he is all bussiness all the time. you will see him turn primadonnas like winslow jr and turn them into smart, hardworking, character players.
Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.
1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).
2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.
3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.
Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.
Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.
Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.
While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.
Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.
1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).
2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.
3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.
Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.
Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.
Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.
While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.
I didnt see Mangini Throw the INT Dip Shit! Lord Favre SHIT THE BEAD. Just Like he did in the other four games before. Favre thinks hes a football God no one can control that guy! Mangini had to ride him no matter what or he would have been ridiculed by most of the moronic Jets fans and your so called awesome front office. Mangini wanted no part of Favre on his team and yeah If Pennington was the QB they would be in the playoffs!
Here's the stat line I dont see Mangini's name in it.
(4:59) (No Huddle) 4-B.Favre pass short left intended for 83-C.Stuckey INTERCEPTED by 21-A.Goodman at MIA 25. 21-A.Goodman to MIA 28 for 3 yards (87-L.Coles).
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Hey Jets fans above (making certain to not include PBJELLY the xxxxING IDIOT Jets fan on previous pages--who is now on ignore for life I might add) thanks for taking the time to stop by and post.
I, like many others, have been reading this board and it's predecessors for years and it's always welcome to meet some civil fans with something to say. Thank you Manginiforlife for the insight. It's always good to hear that type of support from the former team's fans.
Hope you guys stick around and drink up the kool-aid. The Browns are a great team in history, but currently just memories, and we hope your guy Mangini will be the one to finally consumate this thing for SOOOOOO many of us. I have been skeptical of him thus far but after the Ryan hiring I'm ready to give him his keys.
Two interesting things I've noticed while reading some Jets posts (not just you guys):
1) When anyone described how Mangini would lay down the law and players would compete for their positions like it was going to suddenly get tough for our guys, I didn't feel it.I liked that Mangini is also high character like RAC was but the guys run laps here just like Favre did there. In fact, Edwards was running laps when Stallworth spiked him this past summer. The only REALLY different thing I heard was the Rob Ryan stuff. And that stuff gets me pretty hyped, I must tell you.
Is there an impression that Romeo wasn't much of a disciplinarian or that the Browns players are too loose?That they don't practice much maybe?
Also mentioned several times was how Mangini could take a prima dona and transform him into a high character, hard-working player. Are you or in your opinion is the league of the impression the Browns have some prima dona types that require some high character instillment? Just asking.
I like to get outside perspectives.
Can't say enough about the high character stuff. To me that's part of the reason for our current invisible lack of success. After 9 starters on IR return, a monkey could swing in Berea on a vine and produce a winner. It's already there, just took 5 years instead of the normal 4, possibly due to a "high character athletic tradeoff". I like what's in place and it's important to me to see it will continue. Most teams have one or two guys on a United Way commercial. There's probably upwards of ten of our guys with their own foundations.
Two interesting things I've noticed while reading some Jets posts (not just you guys):
1) When anyone described how Mangini would lay down the law and players would compete for their positions like it was going to suddenly get tough for our guys, I didn't feel it.I liked that Mangini is also high character like RAC was but the guys run laps here just like Favre did there. In fact, Edwards was running laps when Stallworth spiked him this past summer. The only REALLY different thing I heard was the Rob Ryan stuff. And that stuff gets me pretty hyped, I must tell you.
Is there an impression that Romeo wasn't much of a disciplinarian or that the Browns players are too loose?That they don't practice much maybe?
Also mentioned several times was how Mangini could take a prima dona and transform him into a high character, hard-working player. Are you or in your opinion is the league of the impression the Browns have some prima dona types that require some high character instillment? Just asking.
I like to get outside perspectives.
I posted these in reponse to questions similar to yours which gets at what you are asking:
"If his past approach is anything to go by, once you enter Mangini's dog house for whatever reason, you lose playing time and the next player in the pecking order get a shot. In this case, the player would need to "work his way up" by contributing in special teams. Mangini is a big fan of special teams and values players who can contribute in this phase of the game. Once you display that you are willing to do anything to help the team win, only then would Mangini re-establish his playing time."
"Few players were quoted as saying that he was very tough on them but only because he wanted the best effort out of them. He also ran a brutal training camp during his first two seasons until he eased off in 2008. It may seem corny to some but he makes players run laps for making mistakes (I'm sure this tidbit was well publicized by Favre's famous lap around the field). It's well documented that he rode Leon Washington HARD during his rookie training camp, which is something Leon attributes his current success to. He demands a lot from his players the mental aspect of the game. He expects players to know the opponent's key formations and personnel groups. In his farewell speech to the team, he actually apologized to the team for being so tough on them and explained that it was to get the best out of them."
I believe this is how he weeds people out; finding out those who are Mangini type guys and who aren't. Regarding RAC's reputation, I'm probably not very qualified to give an opinion on this. Only thing I'll say about the Browns is that they seemed undisciplined and lacked focus but with the whole FO mess, this isn't too surprising.
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I know a lot of jets fan might tell you guys bad things about mangini, but they are mostly clueless. mangini took herm edwards no talent soft pussies and turn the team into a winner. we had 1 prowbowler in 2006, 0 in 2007 and 7 in 2008, mangini is a hardass like parcell and takes no excuses from anyone, and whoever doesn't fit his mold will find himself on the outside looking in. mangini is a hard working intense guy and he is all bussiness all the time. you will see him turn primadonnas like winslow jr and turn them into smart, hardworking, character players.
Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.
1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).
2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.
3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.
Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.
Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.
Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.
While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.
Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.
1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).
2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.
3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.
Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.
Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.
Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.
While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.
I agree with you 100%, Mangini coached some of the worst games this year I have ever seen. Great coaches never loose palyers like mangini did this year. He had nothing to do with the scouting and the draft, he gave his opinion but it was largely bradshaw and tannenbaum responibility. Also just a side note from what I saw for 3 years he is no belichick
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Dude.....I'm a life long Jets fan and let me tell you, Mangini had not as much to do with your Pro Bowl idea as you think.
1st off Faneca (going to Bowl) and D. Woody revamped our OF line for Jones (going to Bowl).
2nd off Favres presence made other teams respect our passing game, something new compared to when teams all but knew our playbook with Pennington under center, which helps our line and Jones.
3rd. Our FO signed a beast in Jenkins (going to Bowl) to stuff the middle.
Washington (going to Bowl) was helped by his returns as usuall and by Favre and the OF line.
Revis (going to Bowl) has been strong since our FO drafted him.
Finally, Mangold (going to Bowl) deserves so as well, as he took care of the middle all season.
While I disagree with Favre going, his presence alone opened up our offense, AND ALL THESE PIECES WERE PART OF OUR FRONT OFFICE'S DECISIONS. MANGINA SU**S, MIKE TANNENBAUM DESRVES THE CREDIT. MANGINI LOST THE JETS TEAM AND THEY GAVE UP. HE MADE NO IN GAME CHANGES. HIS DEFENSE LACKED ANY SORT OF PASS RUSH. HE COULD NOT DICIPLINE A QB IN FAVRE. HE HAS NO FIRE DURING GAME TIME. HE'S AT BEST A DC, AND WHO EVEN KNOWS ABOUT THAT, AS THATS WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO KNOW BEST, DF! WHAT KIND OF COACH DOES NOT DICIPLINE A QB THROWING SO MANY INT'S? Give me a break, Im glad he's gone. Let Cleveland deal with his BS gameplanning now.
I agree with you 100%, Mangini coached some of the worst games this year I have ever seen. Great coaches never loose palyers like mangini did this year. He had nothing to do with the scouting and the draft, he gave his opinion but it was largely bradshaw and tannenbaum responibility. Also just a side note from what I saw for 3 years he is no belichick
I agree with you 100%, Mangini coached some of the worst games this year I have ever seen. Great coaches never loose palyers like mangini did this year. He had nothing to do with the scouting and the draft, he gave his opinion but it was largely bradshaw and tannenbaum responibility. Also just a side note from what I saw for 3 years he is no belichick
guessing is a fools game. what incredible source u have for your statements, let me guess, none!
bradway and tannenbaum were with the jets long before mangini, yet were not able to produce one true offensive or defensive probowler, please spare me the bulshit and come up with something more credible to read
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New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
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New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
Welcome....errr..although I've only been here for a couple of days myself
Another disgruntled Jet fan here. I believe there are two others, mangini4life and jetfanturncoat (or something like that). Just like the Pats troll on Jets MB, this place gets flooded with the Steelers trolls every now and then. Pretty funny and interesting.... -
mz. said:
Damn, there sure are a lot of you guys flocking over here.Mangini must be OK...
lets just say if i was not a jets fan, i would be wearing a browns jersey right now,
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New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
glenn! is that you from jetnation.com
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Mangini is unproven. Why hire a coach BEFORE a GM?
The Browns have made another bad decsion that will keep them from competing with the Steelers and Ravens.
Hiring someone who worked for Bellichick is LAME. It is desperation hoping for the PATS ruboff. (Weiss, Crennel)
The Browns continue to make horrid decisions that cost them dearly year after year. This was not well thought out but in retrospect who really wants to coach the Browns or be the GM under Randy Lerner? Not too many people which is why the Browns jumped when someone was interested in them even after they were fired.
The Steelers would never do this. Guess the wins and losses sort of expalins it all when you compare both teams (Steelers -Browns)
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New poster and NOW a Browns fan..I am a huge supporter of Coach Mangini. I think what the Browns fan will love about coach mangini is his willingness to make the hard decision not the popular decision..Disipline issues will be a thing of the past very soon.The boy don't play. Some fans won't agree with all the things he does but he will do what he feels is the absolute best for the Cleveland Browns. His attention to detail and game management are supurb..The Jet team was always well prepared and ran things like the two minute offense very well.
Cleveland Brown fans you are getting one hard ass working,smart,tough coach..you'll see
glenn! is that you from jetnation.com
glenn! is that you from jetnation.com
yep..its me...AND I am wearing the Brown and Orange..I'm done withe NYJ's..Mangini helped turn that organization in a professional one because before Mangini it was an absolute clown show and I'm afraid its gone back to that..Did he make mistakes..of course... but you can see he will learn from them and he brought so much professionalism to that franchise it was absurd to let him go..The meotric rise of Nick Mangold, Darrelle Revis, Leon Washington, David Harris and Jerihco Cothery...hell 3 of them made the pro bowl!!...he doesn't deserve credit for that??...bullcrap..he deserves all the credit for their development on the field..period..Accuse me of drinking the Mangini Kool aid if you want but I've watched Coach for 3 three years now and I think he is going to be great in Cleveland...Chuck Noll was like 15 - 32 his first 3 years in pitsburgh..how did that work out for them..not comparing EM to CN..just sayin.
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mz. said:
Damn, there sure are a lot of you guys flocking over here.Mangini must be OK...
lets just say if i was not a jets fan, i would be wearing a browns jersey right now,
lets just say if i was not a jets fan, i would be wearing a browns jersey right now,
STFU. Its p**sies like you that make Jets fans look like pansies.
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If Panini is suck a hardaxx, then why didnt he suspend Shaun Ellis for getting butsed with pot?
Why did he left Favre have his own private office away from the other players?
No balls.
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glenn! is that you from jetnation.com
yep..its me...AND I am wearing the Brown and Orange..I'm done withe NYJ's..Mangini helped turn that organization in a professional one because before Mangini it was an absolute clown show and I'm afraid its gone back to that..Did he make mistakes..of course... but you can see he will learn from them and he brought so much professionalism to that franchise it was absurd to let him go..The meotric rise of Nick Mangold, Darrelle Revis, Leon Washington, David Harris and Jerihco Cothery...hell 3 of them made the pro bowl!!...he doesn't deserve credit for that??...bullcrap..he deserves all the credit for their development on the field..period..Accuse me of drinking the Mangini Kool aid if you want but I've watched Coach for 3 three years now and I think he is going to be great in Cleveland...Chuck Noll was like 15 - 32 his first 3 years in pitsburgh..how did that work out for them..not comparing EM to CN..just sayin.
yep..its me...AND I am wearing the Brown and Orange..I'm done withe NYJ's..Mangini helped turn that organization in a professional one because before Mangini it was an absolute clown show and I'm afraid its gone back to that..Did he make mistakes..of course... but you can see he will learn from them and he brought so much professionalism to that franchise it was absurd to let him go..The meotric rise of Nick Mangold, Darrelle Revis, Leon Washington, David Harris and Jerihco Cothery...hell 3 of them made the pro bowl!!...he doesn't deserve credit for that??...bullcrap..he deserves all the credit for their development on the field..period..Accuse me of drinking the Mangini Kool aid if you want but I've watched Coach for 3 three years now and I think he is going to be great in Cleveland...Chuck Noll was like 15 - 32 his first 3 years in pitsburgh..how did that work out for them..not comparing EM to CN..just sayin.
i agree 100%
but i cant leave the jets
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lets just say if i was not a jets fan, i would be wearing a browns jersey right now,
STFU. Its p**sies like you that make Jets fans look like pansies.
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Cheap Seater Lou Ricciardi, who can see impending disaster with the clarity reserved only for long time Jets fans, checked in last week with the following prediction after Eric Mangini was named head coach of the Browns. “We can now add Cleveland to the list of teams that will win a Super Bowl before the Jets win another.”
Light stuff. Jets fans are as good at the woe-is-me stuff as we are.
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Cheap Seater Lou Ricciardi, who can see impending disaster with the clarity reserved only for long time Jets fans, checked in last week with the following prediction after Eric Mangini was named head coach of the Browns. “We can now add Cleveland to the list of teams that will win a Super Bowl before the Jets win another.”
Light stuff. Jets fans are as good at the woe-is-me stuff as we are.
From the Brooklyn Daily Eagle
Cheap Seater Lou Ricciardi, who can see impending disaster with the clarity reserved only for long time Jets fans, checked in last week with the following prediction after Eric Mangini was named head coach of the Browns. “We can now add Cleveland to the list of teams that will win a Super Bowl before the Jets win another.”
Light stuff. Jets fans are as good at the woe-is-me stuff as we are.
jets have always been the nfl's step child. go through the history of the jets.
After the 1983 season, the Jets lease with the city for the use of Shea Stadium had expired, and the Jets would need to cut a new deal. The Jets had faced onerous lease terms at Shea until 1978 when they weren't able to play home games until the Mets completed their season. Often the Mets would use their status as the stadium's primary tenant to force the Jets on long road trips early in the season.
Giants Stadium has been home to the Jets since 1984.The Jets failed to reach an agreement with the City of New York about improvements to Shea Stadium, and instead reached an agreement with the New Jersey Sports and Exhibition Authority to play their home games at Giants Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey beginning in 1984. The Jets played their last game at Shea in 1983, a 34–7 loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oddly enough, the Jets first game at Giants Stadium was a loss to the Steelers as well.
we have never had our own stadium, probably the only nfl team to never have its own stadium, and this is just the tip of the iceberg of the things jets fans have gone through.
1- several incompitant owners
2- bad coaches
3- klecko and winston hill not in the HOF
we finally had a chance to get our own stadium in newyork and the company that owns madison square gardens and the knicks funded lobyists to kill the proposal in new york even after bieng aproved by gov pataki and mayor guliani
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and i'm not even mentioning
bellycheat stealing a million dollar from a dying man (leon hess: jets owner)
parcell retiring and then going to cowboys (after we traded for that bitch)
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and i'm pretty sure your fammilliar with our draft disasters, and now firing probably the smartest, most loyal jets coach we have ever had. jets are a pathetic franchise
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