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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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    Agree... Romney won tonite...

    Style wise Romney was surprisingly effective... almost seemed human.

    Substantively I think the leason was if you're going to lie... go big. Romney did and it seemed to completely throw POTUS off stride.

    For example:

    $5 trillion tax cut? What $5 trillion tax cut? That's not my plan...

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      DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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      The fact that Heck isn't in here gloating proves what everyone (except MSNBC) is right, Obama got his ass handed to him. What's funny is that everyone thought that Obama was going to kick his ass in a debate. What they don't uderstand is Obama needs a script to read from (teleprompter). If he actually has to think and repond to unknown questions, he is in trouble.

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        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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        Sorry, I don't run right to this board and haven't looked at until now, but yes, Romney clearly won last night. It was one of the more lopsided debates I can remember. I don't think it could have gone better for him. It changes the race.

        If he'd done poorly, or Obama had done better, that probably would have been the end of it. Now the media narrative is "Romney's back!" Because they're all in the tank for Obama.

        Funny, because someone was asking me last night if the conservative or Tea Party wing of the Republican Party would be upset this morning because Romney played it like a total moderate last night. Which just made me laugh. Not at Romney - at my co-worker. Because it's about winning, and Romney won. They wouldn't care if he came out for abortion on demand.

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          That's what I was thinking Heck.

          Can't Romeny just come out and express more moderate and liberal views now to attract the remaining middle of the road vote? With this board as the example I think conservatives are more concerned about beating Obama and would vote against him regardless of what they were voting for.

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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            I can't tell who was worse last night, Obama or Jim Lehrer.

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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              That's what I was thinking Heck.

              Can't Romeny just come out and express more moderate and liberal views now to attract the remaining middle of the road vote? With this board as the example I think conservatives are more concerned about beating Obama and would vote against him regardless of what they were voting for.

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              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              That's what I was thinking Heck.

              Can't Romeny just come out and express more moderate and liberal views now to attract the remaining middle of the road vote? With this board as the example I think conservatives are more concerned about beating Obama and would vote against him regardless of what they were voting for.

              Yeah, the Republicans were getting so used to seeing bad polls and accepting defeat that they don't give a shit that he just turned back into a barely Republican guy from Massachusetts. If that's what wins, whatever.

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              • W Westside Steve

                Well I had rehearsal tonight so I will to check the DVR tomorrow.

                I got home around 11 and have watched about ten minutes of Fox and ten MSNBC.

                I'm guessing Romney had a pretty good performance since Sean Hannity was positively giddy and Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews seemed furious.

                WSS

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                F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                @westside-steve said:

                ....... Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews seemed furious.

                WSS

                boy you werent kidding! just heard some of the venom! They said they wouldve had thier knives out! not an MSNBC debate! lol Matthews the tingle is gone

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                  Just as i thought, Obama doesn't want the job anymore. He only wants the prestige of being a president but not the responsibilties that come along with it.

                  His body language spoke volumes and Moochelles body langusge spoke that she was going to kick Barry's ass when they got back to the hotel room.

                  after last nights debate the Vegas odds makers are telling their clients to put their money on Romney.

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                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                    LOL.

                    Heckbunker DID admit Romney kicked ass, and then POUTED that Romney would have won no matter what.

                    and of course, his "friend" represents all Americans on earth. LOL

                    Kudos to Heckbunker for saying something honest, although he had to temper it

                    with left-handedly blaming Lehrer.

                    I mean, seriously, at least Heckbunker didn't blame the ALTITUDE (like his hero Gore actually did) LOL.....

                    for ObaMao showing America who he really is...and is not.

                    And he is not a competent president.

                    I wouldn't be surprised if ObaMao cancels the next debate or the rest of the debates,

                    especially the one on foreign policy - for whatever excuse his backers can muster.

                    Hey, maybe ObaMao will issue an "executive order" banning any more debates on national security... !!!😁

                    Meanwhile, ObaMao has allowed the Mid East to erupt into a flaminig, violent inferno.... and he says it's a "bump in the road" ???????

                    And I don't think Mr. slick foot in mouth Biden has any chance in his debate.

                    Should be fun ! I would actually give a couple of bucks to go in on a package of boxes of kleenex for Shep,

                    wherever he dallies.... he surely is devasted. Obamao's magic brilliance and eloquence was all in his and Heck's minds.

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                      H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                      Reading comprehension was never your strong suit. I'm not blaming Jim Lehrer. I'm saying he did a lousy job. (Because he did a lousy job.) And I have no idea where you think I said Romney was going to win anyway.

                      And why am I replying to one of your posts? Shame on me.

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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        I SAID left handedly.

                        Look it up, self-described brainiac.

                        Go back and look it up.

                        I don't remember how far back it was,

                        but you were spinning that Romney would probly win the first debate, something like that.

                        Maybe Steve can find it...

                        but criticizing the moderator... not one person on this board thinks, imho, that you

                        would be complaining about the moderator if Obamao had won big.

                        You betcha....😎

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                        • H heckofajobbrownie

                          Reading comprehension was never your strong suit. I'm not blaming Jim Lehrer. I'm saying he did a lousy job. (Because he did a lousy job.) And I have no idea where you think I said Romney was going to win anyway.

                          And why am I replying to one of your posts? Shame on me.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @heckofajobbrownie said:

                          And why am I replying to one of your posts? Shame on me.

                          Its a sickness

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            S Saint wrote on last edited by
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                            My favorite part of this video is around the 4:15 mark... check it out.

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                              @heckofajobbrownie said:

                              And why am I replying to one of your posts? Shame on me.

                              Its a sickness

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                              H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Its a sickness

                              It's like alcoholism. I fell off the wagon.

                              Back to step one.

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                Again let me remind everyone to stay calm.

                                If Romney does great next time and Obama does even slightly better the press will be dancing in the streets claiming a moral victory.

                                WSS

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                  So, heckbunker, you are denying that you figured Romney would win the debate?

                                  So you figured that Obamao would win?

                                  I gave you the benefit of doubt unfairly then.

                                  So, you were WRONG about who would win the debate.

                                  Or, was it that you thought it would be a tie?

                                  In either case, you were totally, embarrassingly WRONG.

                                  So, you deny that you were right.

                                  Heckbunker is Chris Mathews drinking one too many tequila shots, I think.

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                                  • H heckofajobbrownie

                                    Sorry, I don't run right to this board and haven't looked at until now, but yes, Romney clearly won last night. It was one of the more lopsided debates I can remember. I don't think it could have gone better for him. It changes the race.

                                    If he'd done poorly, or Obama had done better, that probably would have been the end of it. Now the media narrative is "Romney's back!" Because they're all in the tank for Obama.

                                    Funny, because someone was asking me last night if the conservative or Tea Party wing of the Republican Party would be upset this morning because Romney played it like a total moderate last night. Which just made me laugh. Not at Romney - at my co-worker. Because it's about winning, and Romney won. They wouldn't care if he came out for abortion on demand.

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                                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                    Sorry, I don't run right to this board and haven't looked at until now, but yes, Romney clearly won last night. It was one of the more lopsided debates I can remember. I don't think it could have gone better for him. It changes the race.

                                    If he'd done poorly, or Obama had done better, that probably would have been the end of it. Now the media narrative is "Romney's back!" Because they're all in the tank for Obama.

                                    They still are. They just also what the story to draw attention.

                                    Funny, because someone was asking me last night if the conservative or Tea Party wing of the Republican Party would be upset this morning because Romney played it like a total moderate last nights. Which just made me laugh. Not at Romney - at my co-worker. Because it's about winning, and Romney won. They wouldn't care if he came out for abortion on demand.

                                    Or if he were sending hundreds of American kids to their deaths in an unwinnable war with no positive goal in sight......

                                    Oh sorry, that's your base.

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                                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                      And Cal I too was surprised to see Romney a, do as well and b, get any credit whatsoever.

                                      I didn't expect Heck to give anything less than his honest opinion.

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                                        H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                        I don't get how you see universal agreement among media pundits that Romney fared far better in the debate than President Obama, and yet not question your belief that many in the media actually take their jobs seriously and don't secretly scheme for their liberal candidate buddies?

                                        Is it possible that you're, you know, wrong?

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                                          @heckofajobbrownie said:

                                          Sorry, I don't run right to this board and haven't looked at until now, but yes, Romney clearly won last night. It was one of the more lopsided debates I can remember. I don't think it could have gone better for him. It changes the race.

                                          If he'd done poorly, or Obama had done better, that probably would have been the end of it. Now the media narrative is "Romney's back!" Because they're all in the tank for Obama.

                                          They still are. They just also what the story to draw attention.

                                          Funny, because someone was asking me last night if the conservative or Tea Party wing of the Republican Party would be upset this morning because Romney played it like a total moderate last nights. Which just made me laugh. Not at Romney - at my co-worker. Because it's about winning, and Romney won. They wouldn't care if he came out for abortion on demand.

                                          Or if he were sending hundreds of American kids to their deaths in an unwinnable war with no positive goal in sight......

                                          Oh sorry, that's your base.

                                          WSS

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                                          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by heckofajobbrownie
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                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Or if he were sending hundreds of American kids to their deaths in an unwinnable war with no positive goal in sight......

                                          Oh sorry, that's your base.

                                          WSS

                                          They do care about that. I know I do. Among liberals I know, the war in Afghanistan is - easily - the number one complaint about the administration, followed by the continuation of Bush surveillance/anti-terror policies, and no movement at all in the war on drugs. Those would be the top three. If I had to go to four i'd say his lack of an effective policy to assist homeowners/stabilize the housing market.

                                          Just to give you a little window into a world you clearly have little familiarity with.

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