Rock Hall Nominations
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I'll concede the point that they sold a lot of records. I'll also concede that they had a lot of fans.
However, I believe they are like a baseball player that puts in 10 years, lifetime average .230, 10 homers a year, maybe 50 rbi's. They grew a large fan base from being different (Coco Crisp). Coco is a good ball player, but he will never be in the hall of fame. I'm amazed he has made it this far in is career. He has very little talent, but he plays hard, and because of that he found a niche. Therefore, KISS is Coco Crisp.
I may just be bored. I am at work, and had little else to do but write, well, this.
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I'll concede the point that they sold a lot of records. I'll also concede that they had a lot of fans.
However, I believe they are like a baseball player that puts in 10 years, lifetime average .230, 10 homers a year, maybe 50 rbi's. They grew a large fan base from being different (Coco Crisp). Coco is a good ball player, but he will never be in the hall of fame. I'm amazed he has made it this far in is career. He has very little talent, but he plays hard, and because of that he found a niche. Therefore, KISS is Coco Crisp.
I may just be bored. I am at work, and had little else to do but write, well, this.
I'll concede the point that they sold a lot of records. I'll also concede that they had a lot of fans.
However, I believe they are like a baseball player that puts in 10 years, lifetime average .230, 10 homers a year, maybe 50 rbi's. They grew a large fan base from being different (Coco Crisp). Coco is a good ball player, but he will never be in the hall of fame. I'm amazed he has made it this far in is career. He has very little talent, but he plays hard, and because of that he found a niche. Therefore, KISS is Coco Crisp.
I may just be bored. I am at work, and had little else to do but write, well, this.
Funny analysis at least..I'd say Kiss is at least Brook Jacoby, 33 Hrs 69 RBIs the one year
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You know, I thought about the Brook Jacoby/ Pat Tabler comparison
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Well, they do have a policy of putting in 5 or 6 acts per year.
I guess it is like the Baseball Hall of Fame....do 5 or 6 truly elite baseball players come on the scene every year? No. Some years the BBHOF only induct 1 or 2 people. Perhaps the RRHOF should be the same?
The problem is, every year we say: "Why isn't so and so in the RRHOF? It is a travestyt that they are not" (can you hear the KISS army?)
Agree 100%. I just don't like the fact that bands like Jane's Addiction(a band that isn't in yet, but they list as a big snub)could ever be considered on the same level as The Beatles in any way. I am too biased on a lot of the bands because of taste, but I'd call anyone crazy if they think the B-52's deserve to be enshrined in the same building as The Beatles, Al Green(biased again), Four Tops, Led Zeppelin and so forth.
As far as Tull is concerned, I wouldn't know how their following was in their prime, but they seemed to have not withstood the test of time, as far as loyal followers are concerned. I've seen them a couple of times, and Mr. Anderson could hear me from where I was located, which doesn't bode well to crowds. Again, I love Jethro Tull, don't get me wrong.
My father and I have had a debate on another band: Three Dog Night. I like them and all, but I consider them the fore fathers of very bad music today. Boy band singing songs others have written. Granted their version of Try a Little Tenderness is my favorite(HUGE OTIS FAN too), but overall I despise them for what they accidentally created.
And last, I will never agree that Peter Paul and Mary were anywhere close to Dylan. PPM used simple and very silly lyrics that were on par for a very bright 5th grader, Harvard teaches classes on Dylan's prose. I guess I kind of compare PPM to mama's and Pappa's, which I shouldn't but I do anyway, and I would make love to Mama Cass right now if I could never have to listen to I Have a Hammer(or whatever the song is named) ever again.
Agree 100%. I just don't like the fact that bands like Jane's Addiction(a band that isn't in yet, but they list as a big snub)could ever be considered on the same level as The Beatles in any way. I am too biased on a lot of the bands because of taste, but I'd call anyone crazy if they think the B-52's deserve to be enshrined in the same building as The Beatles, Al Green(biased again), Four Tops, Led Zeppelin and so forth.
As far as Tull is concerned, I wouldn't know how their following was in their prime, but they seemed to have not withstood the test of time, as far as loyal followers are concerned. I've seen them a couple of times, and Mr. Anderson could hear me from where I was located, which doesn't bode well to crowds. Again, I love Jethro Tull, don't get me wrong.
My father and I have had a debate on another band: Three Dog Night. I like them and all, but I consider them the fore fathers of very bad music today. Boy band singing songs others have written. Granted their version of Try a Little Tenderness is my favorite(HUGE OTIS FAN too), but overall I despise them for what they accidentally created.
And last, I will never agree that Peter Paul and Mary were anywhere close to Dylan. PPM used simple and very silly lyrics that were on par for a very bright 5th grader, Harvard teaches classes on Dylan's prose. I guess I kind of compare PPM to mama's and Pappa's, which I shouldn't but I do anyway, and I would make love to Mama Cass right now if I could never have to listen to I Have a Hammer(or whatever the song is named) ever again.
I disagree about Three Dog Night being tantamout to a boy band.
And if you had a "Folk music" Hall of Fame, PPM would be one of the first 5 acts inducted:
You asked for it
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...and yes, I hear the KISS army. They are too loud.
In all honesty, I could train monkeys to be better musicians then any of the KISS members ever were.
I get it, they had some pretty rad party songs. They were sweet! They were also make-up wearing pussies that had no musical talent to speak of.
...and yes, I hear the KISS army. They are too loud.
In all honesty, I could train monkeys to be better musicians then any of the KISS members ever were.
I get it, they had some pretty rad party songs. They were sweet! They were also make-up wearing pussies that had no musical talent to speak of.
When in fucking hell did you ever think having musical talent had anything to do with Rock and Roll?
If that was the case then half the people in would be out and many more obscure acts would be in: like Glass Harp. Both Jimmy Hendrix and Pete Townshend said that Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist they had ever seen, better than themselves. Yet they won't be in the RRHOF, now will they?
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...and yes, I hear the KISS army. They are too loud.
In all honesty, I could train monkeys to be better musicians then any of the KISS members ever were.
I get it, they had some pretty rad party songs. They were sweet! They were also make-up wearing pussies that had no musical talent to speak of.
When in fucking hell did you ever think having musical talent had anything to do with Rock and Roll?
If that was the case then half the people in would be out and many more obscure acts would be in: like Glass Harp. Both Jimmy Hendrix and Pete Townshend said that Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist they had ever seen, better than themselves. Yet they won't be in the RRHOF, now will they?
When in fucking hell did you ever think having musical talent had anything to do with Rock and Roll?
If that was the case then half the people in would be out and many more obscure acts would be in: like Glass Harp. Both Jimmy Hendrix and Pete Townshend said that Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist they had ever seen, better than themselves. Yet they won't be in the RRHOF, now will they?
Jimi always said that Terry Kath was the best, hands down. Although hand-eye coordination proved to be his own downfall.
Musical talent does have a lot to do with rock and roll. Although, I am defeated by your overall point, and I agree. However, I think it should be a prerequisite to get in.
Thankfully, I have to press the play button in order to Kath myself; I shall refrain.
How is Three Dog Night not a founding father to 98 degrees and N'sync? They sang other people's songs, had a back-up band playing the music, and they were very poppy. That's 3 for 3 in my book. I could be wrong, and I admit, in wrong vs. right, I have a sub 500 record, but I am still young.
*edit* I do like Three Dog Night, and I have met them all, minus Chuck Negron, on a few occasions. I just think they are the founders of really wretched shit that we hear today.
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When in fucking hell did you ever think having musical talent had anything to do with Rock and Roll?
If that was the case then half the people in would be out and many more obscure acts would be in: like Glass Harp. Both Jimmy Hendrix and Pete Townshend said that Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist they had ever seen, better than themselves. Yet they won't be in the RRHOF, now will they?
Jimi always said that Terry Kath was the best, hands down. Although hand-eye coordination proved to be his own downfall.
Musical talent does have a lot to do with rock and roll. Although, I am defeated by your overall point, and I agree. However, I think it should be a prerequisite to get in.
Thankfully, I have to press the play button in order to Kath myself; I shall refrain.
How is Three Dog Night not a founding father to 98 degrees and N'sync? They sang other people's songs, had a back-up band playing the music, and they were very poppy. That's 3 for 3 in my book. I could be wrong, and I admit, in wrong vs. right, I have a sub 500 record, but I am still young.
*edit* I do like Three Dog Night, and I have met them all, minus Chuck Negron, on a few occasions. I just think they are the founders of really wretched shit that we hear today.
Jimi always said that Terry Kath was the best, hands down. Although hand-eye coordination proved to be his own downfall.
Well, then, Jimi must have said about a few people. How self-depracating.
Musical talent does have a lot to do with rock and roll. Although, I am defeated by your overall point, and I agree. However, I think it should be a prerequisite to get in.
Thankfully, I have to press the play button in order to Kath myself; I shall refrain.
How is Three Dog Night not a founding father to 98 degrees and N'sync? They sang other people's songs, had a back-up band playing the music, and they were very poppy. That's 3 for 3 in my book. I could be wrong, and I admit, in wrong vs. right, I have a sub 500 record, but I am still young.
Your better example of that would be The Monkees....who were brought together by the TV Network or Music Label. Like NSYNC and The Backstreet Boys, etc.
Because..as far as doing others songs, having a backup band, and being poppy...you describe a couple of guys perfectly: Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra.
I think Three Dog Night put themselves together where these new boy bands are "created" by the record producers. They call for auditions for the "new band that MCA is putting together, or some such rot.
*edit* I do like Three Dog Night, and I have met them all, minus Chuck Negron, on a few occasions. I just think they are the founders of really wretched shit that we hear today.
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Rush should have been in way before Madonna. They might as well re-name that place the "Music" hall-of-fame, because there are way too many acts that are NOT rock-n-roll in there.
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Rush should have been in way before Madonna. They might as well re-name that place the "Music" hall-of-fame, because there are way too many acts that are NOT rock-n-roll in there.
Rush should have been in way before Madonna. They might as well re-name that place the "Music" hall-of-fame, because there are way too many acts that are NOT rock-n-roll in there.
Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
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Good point on Monkees. I would agree with you on that being a better example. All you are doing is helping my father win an argument; for that, I am angry.
On your other comment, I may be among the few that feels this way, but I have little respect for Elvis. I just can't stand the hype of someone that pretended to play guitar on stage, and never wrote a single lyric. I just think that then becomes theatre, which it is not. Milli Vanilli comes to mind, but that was with voice. However, I will never win that argument in a million years with anybody. I will fight to the grave though, with anyone that says Elvis over The Beatles.
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Rush should have been in way before Madonna. They might as well re-name that place the "Music" hall-of-fame, because there are way too many acts that are NOT rock-n-roll in there.
Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
To me rock-n-roll is about the music. And the 3 guys in Rush have way more musical talent then Madonna.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Rush should have been in way before Madonna. They might as well re-name that place the "Music" hall-of-fame, because there are way too many acts that are NOT rock-n-roll in there.
Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
I respect that. I mean, my whole argument is based on artists that didn't do this or that, but all the while, Motown is my favorite music out there. I'm listening to "Reach Out" while I'm typing, followed by "Band of Gold". I rank The Supremes in my top ten bands of all time, so forget everything I said. I can't be a hypocrite of that great of size.
On a side note: I envy all you fools that were around for some of the great music that could be heard fresh in the 60's and 70's. I hope all you that had a chance to listen to it when it was new, appreciated it. There is nothing with soul anymore.
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Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
I respect that. I mean, my whole argument is based on artists that didn't do this or that, but all the while, Motown is my favorite music out there. I'm listening to "Reach Out" while I'm typing, followed by "Band of Gold". I rank The Supremes in my top ten bands of all time, so forget everything I said. I can't be a hypocrite of that great of size.
On a side note: I envy all you fools that were around for some of the great music that could be heard fresh in the 60's and 70's. I hope all you that had a chance to listen to it when it was new, appreciated it. There is nothing with soul anymore.
I respect that. I mean, my whole argument is based on artists that didn't do this or that, but all the while, Motown is my favorite music out there. I'm listening to "Reach Out" while I'm typing, followed by "Band of Gold". I rank The Supremes in my top ten bands of all time, so forget everything I said. I can't be a hypocrite of that great of size.
On a side note: I envy all you fools that were around for some of the great music that could be heard fresh in the 60's and 70's. I hope all you that had a chance to listen to it when it was new, appreciated it. There is nothing with soul anymore.
Bullshit. You just have to look for it.
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We've been through this before....Chicago needs to be in. They were cutting edge, rocking out with a horn section, and had a ton of hits and about 20 top selling albums. Terry Kath was a GREAT guitar player who flys under most radar. Jimmi Hendrix spent many hours trying to figure out Kaths solos. He was a great fan of Kath's.
Also, Paul Rodgers needs to get in, either as the front man of Free or more likely, Bad Company. Now he is Queens lead singer.
He did a tour or two with queen, but he's not the lead singer of queen. He was terrible, by the way, just like many people trying to tackle Freddie mercury's parts. Unsatisfactory. The guy from foo fighters (not Dave grohl) does Freddie better.
He did a tour or two with queen, but he's not the lead singer of queen. He was terrible, by the way, just like many people trying to tackle Freddie mercury's parts. Unsatisfactory. The guy from foo fighters (not Dave grohl) does Freddie better.
I understand. I never understood Rodgers taking a gig with a queer band like Queen. Actually, I am glad to hear he isn't fronting them anymore.
If everybody had like minds, we would never learn. -
When in fucking hell did you ever think having musical talent had anything to do with Rock and Roll?
If that was the case then half the people in would be out and many more obscure acts would be in: like Glass Harp. Both Jimmy Hendrix and Pete Townshend said that Phil Keaggy was the best guitarist they had ever seen, better than themselves. Yet they won't be in the RRHOF, now will they?
Jimi always said that Terry Kath was the best, hands down. Although hand-eye coordination proved to be his own downfall.
Musical talent does have a lot to do with rock and roll. Although, I am defeated by your overall point, and I agree. However, I think it should be a prerequisite to get in.
Thankfully, I have to press the play button in order to Kath myself; I shall refrain.
How is Three Dog Night not a founding father to 98 degrees and N'sync? They sang other people's songs, had a back-up band playing the music, and they were very poppy. That's 3 for 3 in my book. I could be wrong, and I admit, in wrong vs. right, I have a sub 500 record, but I am still young.
*edit* I do like Three Dog Night, and I have met them all, minus Chuck Negron, on a few occasions. I just think they are the founders of really wretched shit that we hear today.
How is Three Dog Night not a founding father to 98 degrees and N'sync? They sang other people's songs, had a back-up band playing the music, and they were very poppy. That's 3 for 3 in my book. I could be wrong, and I admit, in wrong vs. right, I have a sub 500 record, but I am still young.
*edit* I do like Three Dog Night, and I have met them all, minus Chuck Negron, on a few occasions. I just think they are the founders of really wretched shit that we hear today.
Because they suck worse than Tiny Canadian Pussy Douche.
Gawd almighty- "Jeremiah was a Bullfrog- Joy to the World" has to have the dumbest lyrics in the history of songwriting. 99% of their stuff wants to make me puke. I hate Abba, and I'll listen to them in a heartbeat over TDN. They blow. Wow, they have nice three part harmony- so does any corner Gospel trio.
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I think prog, most generally defined, would be rock music that showcases technical proficiency, odd time signatures, as well as taking risks on songs that you will typically not see in the Billboard Top 100.
Prog is my favorite genre, and here's my top 10. I am not a fan of metal, so bands like Symphony X and Opeth won't be on it.
1. Pink Floyd
2. Rush
3. Genesis
4. Dream Theater
5. Jethro Tull
6. Porcupine Tree
7. Electric Light Orchestra
8. Blackfield
Two newer acts that I really, really like are 30 Seconds to Mars and Dirt Poor Robins. Not sure if I'd fit them on a top 10 list, but as of now, I can't think of any bands that deserve to be on my list more than those two.
I think prog, most generally defined, would be rock music that showcases technical proficiency, odd time signatures, as well as taking risks on songs that you will typically not see in the Billboard Top 100.
Prog is my favorite genre, and here's my top 10. I am not a fan of metal, so bands like Symphony X and Opeth won't be on it.
1. Pink Floyd
2. Rush
3. Genesis
4. Dream Theater
5. Jethro Tull
6. Porcupine Tree
7. Electric Light Orchestra
8. Blackfield
prog is definitely my fave genre as well. zappa is not prog at all but as someone else has said rock/jazz/funk fusion. then again no one mentioned hawkwind which were basically the first proggers.
camel is my favorite along with starcastle and genesis (early). i don't know if i'd consider rush, elo, or tull prog and pink floyd is on the cusp. it depends on the definition i guess.
i always defined prog rock as music that is cool to trip on.
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You've never tripped to Mr. Blue Sky? Or anything by Pink Floyd?
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You've never tripped to Mr. Blue Sky? Or anything by Pink Floyd?
You've never tripped to Mr. Blue Sky? Or anything by Pink Floyd?
No comment
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Not in my opinion. See how that works?
Rock n Roll has always been about showmanship. Any fool can tell you what a showman..woman..person Madonna has been.
To me rock-n-roll is about the music. And the 3 guys in Rush have way more musical talent then Madonna.
To me rock-n-roll is about the music. And the 3 guys in Rush have way more musical talent then Madonna.
The powers that be don't care what rock n roll is to you.
And if it is all about music...then 1000 obscure bands you never heard of probably had more musical talent than Rush.....so, obviously, it is NOT about "the music"....it is about money/showmanship/popularity/influence, with maybe a little music thrown in.
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He did a tour or two with queen, but he's not the lead singer of queen. He was terrible, by the way, just like many people trying to tackle Freddie mercury's parts. Unsatisfactory. The guy from foo fighters (not Dave grohl) does Freddie better.
I understand. I never understood Rodgers taking a gig with a queer band like Queen. Actually, I am glad to hear he isn't fronting them anymore.
I understand. I never understood Rodgers taking a gig with a queer band like Queen. Actually, I am glad to hear he isn't fronting them anymore.
You don't have to like homosexuals to know queen was a fucking awesome band with a great singer who's (besides mercury that is) still getting lots of airplay on just about every classic rock station in the land and still raking in tons of royalty money.
One of the best of all time. Bad company is ok, but Paul Rodgers is not the talent Freddie Mercury was. If your homophobia won't allow you to enjoy queen I feel sorry for you. Queen is the shit.
This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
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