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  • I might be the only guy in here but I watch all Shurmur's press conferences on the Browns page and I can honestly say I like the guy. I don't think he is the issue, the issue IMO is we have talent but not enough and not in all the right spots. This team lacks depth and continues to make mistakes but at some point players need to be responsible for their ability or lack thereof. If we get to the point where the Browns are clearly the more talented team on the field and they are losing then the Coach should be addressed. As it stands the Browns might be even talent wise with Buffalo and close with Cinci but everyone else they've played is more talented. The Browns points spreads have been 7.5, 7.5, 3.5, 10.5 & 10.5. Those numbers are reflective of a bad team not a team that is close with a coaching change..

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  • I dunno, maybe. Keep the guy around for another 2 years while we amass talent.. maybe it all goes well.

  • Not a chance in hell he keeps his job...

  • see ya, wouldn't want to be ya

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • So our 1st round 29 year old QB learns a new system to bring us to the playoffs? Or the new coach brings in his own first round QB? At some point we need stability..

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    So our 1st round 29 year old QB learns a new system to bring us to the playoffs? Or the new coach brings in his own first round QB? At some point we need stability..

    @baconhound said:

    So our 1st round 29 year old QB learns a new system to bring us to the playoffs? Or the new coach brings in his own first round QB? At some point we need stability..

    would you rather see our 29 year old qb run shurmer's offense?

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Shurmur is running the most predictable offense of all time..

  • D dab7291993

    Shurmur is running the most predictable offense of all time..

    @dab7291993 said:

    Shurmur is running the most predictable offense of all time..

    well, he is running an offense from 1995

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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    @dab7291993 said:

    Shurmur is running the most predictable offense of all time..

    well, he is running an offense from 1995

    @browns149 said:

    well, he is running an offense from 1995

    It's not about the system, the WCO can work in the NFL. But you can't stick strictly to the book and expect people not to know what's coming.

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    @browns149 said:

    well, he is running an offense from 1995

    It's not about the system, the WCO can work in the NFL. But you can't stick strictly to the book and expect people not to know what's coming.

    @dab7291993 said:

    It's not about the system, the WCO can work in the NFL. But you can't stick strictly to the book and expect people not to know what's coming.

    It IS about the system. Not 1 team runs the west coast system. EXCEPT the Browns. All the other teams have adapated and adjusted the system. But Shurmur keeps the system the same.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • I think we would see a better scheme if we had a better team. We have a very good running back, an inconsistent offensive line, a rookie QB and our best threat at receiver is a pot smoker who didn't play college ball from July 2011 until training camp this year.

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    @dab7291993 said:

    It's not about the system, the WCO can work in the NFL. But you can't stick strictly to the book and expect people not to know what's coming.

    It IS about the system. Not 1 team runs the west coast system. EXCEPT the Browns. All the other teams have adapated and adjusted the system. But Shurmur keeps the system the same.

    @browns149 said:

    All the other teams have adapated and adjusted the system. But Shurmur keeps the system the same.

    you mean holmshurmurgren don't you? you know the walrus is pulling the strings. how do you think shurmur got the job?

    "do as you're told pat, do as you're told."

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  • B BaconHound

    I think we would see a better scheme if we had a better team. We have a very good running back, an inconsistent offensive line, a rookie QB and our best threat at receiver is a pot smoker who didn't play college ball from July 2011 until training camp this year.

    @baconhound said:

    I think we would see a better scheme if we had a better team. We have a very good running back, an inconsistent offensive line, a rookie QB and our best threat at receiver is a pot smoker who didn't play college ball from July 2011 until training camp this year.

    so we would have a better scheme if we had better players??????????????? well who's picking the players????????????? 3 years and we are the worst team in the league. THAT'S ON THE PEOPLE THAT THINK THIS SYSTEM WILL WORK IN 2012

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • B BaconHound

    I might be the only guy in here but I watch all Shurmur's press conferences on the Browns page and I can honestly say I like the guy. I don't think he is the issue, the issue IMO is we have talent but not enough and not in all the right spots. This team lacks depth and continues to make mistakes but at some point players need to be responsible for their ability or lack thereof. If we get to the point where the Browns are clearly the more talented team on the field and they are losing then the Coach should be addressed. As it stands the Browns might be even talent wise with Buffalo and close with Cinci but everyone else they've played is more talented. The Browns points spreads have been 7.5, 7.5, 3.5, 10.5 & 10.5. Those numbers are reflective of a bad team not a team that is close with a coaching change..

    @baconhound said:

    I might be the only guy in here but I watch all Shurmur's press conferences on the Browns page and I can honestly say I like the guy. I don't think he is the issue, the issue IMO is we have talent but not enough and not in all the right spots. This team lacks depth and continues to make mistakes but at some point players need to be responsible for their ability or lack thereof. If we get to the point where the Browns are clearly the more talented team on the field and they are losing then the Coach should be addressed. As it stands the Browns might be even talent wise with Buffalo and close with Cinci but everyone else they've played is more talented. The Browns points spreads have been 7.5, 7.5, 3.5, 10.5 & 10.5. Those numbers are reflective of a bad team not a team that is close with a coaching change..

    You like Shurmur? Well so do I he's a swell guy. So was Chris Palmer. Toooooo bad Shurmur is a LOUSY coach.

    Heckert has upgraded every position on the team (except linebacker)and Shurmur is on a 5 game losing streak.

    Stability is a fine thing- I hope you'd enjoy another 2-14 season- because that's where we're headed with Pattycakes at the helm. If I saw ANY hope Shurmur could turn into a 1\2 competent HC, I'd be wiling to give him a break. Buy a clue- Ram's fans were more than happy to see him gone as OC. So just WHO is calling the plays now?

    Here's your dose of reality. Shurmur in on a ONE game leash. He loses badly to the Bnegals this Sunday, he may as well clean out his office on Monday- because sure as s**t Haslam will fire him come the 16th. A win saves his sorry ass until the next embarrassing loss- and those will come- trust me.

  • I can't defend Shurmur anymore. Between NOT playing Richardson on third downs, and saying they

    are working on getting him ready to be an every down back... (what the hell?)...

    then that is after deciding way too early, that Weeden must be the starter from day one,

    that seems contradictory to me.

    And going for a field goal when down by three scores with not much time left.... forget it.

    then, when asked about Richardson not being on the field on third down... and Shurmur

    says something Buttichek like, "was he?" or whatever. I like Weeden, but it was too soon to start him.

    Colt McCoy deserved to have a legit chance to start, at least for a little while, to let Weeden get some game experience

    here and there. Instead, Shurmur threw him in there. to make himself look like a frickin genius. Oops.

    There's a hell of a lot more to qb'ing than having a cannon arm. And Colt wasn't prone to throwing stupid ints but rarely.

    I'd be fine if Shurmur is gone, but if he stays, he'd better figure out that Richardson is already an every down back.

    dammit. How stupid it is, to finally get a legit RT and a dynamic RB, and some wr's who can actually get open...

    then screw it all up by dumping the qb who struggled last year with the lack of the above?

    I would have started Colt, and if/when Colt was holding the offense back with his non cannon arm,

    Weeden would step in in a new york second.

  • @mike-h said:

    Holmgren: We're going to see progress in 2012.

    11 straight and counting.

    Holmgren meant progress in construction in his new Home in Seattle.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • If I was Haslam, I'd delay the Banner hiring a few weeks and keep Homie in his position a little longer and tell him he needs to fire Shurmer.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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  • B BaconHound

    I might be the only guy in here but I watch all Shurmur's press conferences on the Browns page and I can honestly say I like the guy. I don't think he is the issue, the issue IMO is we have talent but not enough and not in all the right spots. This team lacks depth and continues to make mistakes but at some point players need to be responsible for their ability or lack thereof. If we get to the point where the Browns are clearly the more talented team on the field and they are losing then the Coach should be addressed. As it stands the Browns might be even talent wise with Buffalo and close with Cinci but everyone else they've played is more talented. The Browns points spreads have been 7.5, 7.5, 3.5, 10.5 & 10.5. Those numbers are reflective of a bad team not a team that is close with a coaching change..

    @baconhound said:

    I might be the only guy in here but I watch all Shurmur's press conferences on the Browns page and I can honestly say I like the guy. I don't think he is the issue, the issue IMO is we have talent but not enough and not in all the right spots. This team lacks depth and continues to make mistakes but at some point players need to be responsible for their ability or lack thereof. If we get to the point where the Browns are clearly the more talented team on the field and they are losing then the Coach should be addressed. As it stands the Browns might be even talent wise with Buffalo and close with Cinci but everyone else they've played is more talented. The Browns points spreads have been 7.5, 7.5, 3.5, 10.5 & 10.5. Those numbers are reflective of a bad team not a team that is close with a coaching change..

    I am with you 100%. Good luck trying to be rational with Browns fans though. It seems like half of the members on this board and the local media thought that we were going to beat playoff and Superbowl caliber teams this year. The players have been playing hard, the offense looks more potent than it has since they have been back against some good defenses, and the defense has been missing three starters (its best player, a starting linebacker, and last year's 1st round draft pick). If you want to call for a coaches head, make it the special teams coach Chris Tabor. The special teams play has been awful.

    Anyways BaconHound, I have a feeling that Shurmur will get more of a chance than fans think; especially if the Browns do well in the second half of the season. I wonder how many of these fans were calling for Belichik's head way back when.

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