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  • Brown Skids B
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    B Brown Skids wrote on last edited by
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    Well I was never a fan of the Walrus, but he and Heckert did leave us with plenty of young talent to compete in the future. I'm kind of bittersweet about this, but it is what it is.

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      D DanInNYC wrote on last edited by DanInNYC
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      Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know". I am excited about the young team that the Holmgren regime has put together, and hope that all this front office stuff is not a big distraction for the players and coaches.

      This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

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        Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know". I am excited about the young team that the Holmgren regime has put together, and hope that all this front office stuff is not a big distraction for the players and coaches.

        This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

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        Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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        @daninnyc said:

        This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

        Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

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          Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know". I am excited about the young team that the Holmgren regime has put together, and hope that all this front office stuff is not a big distraction for the players and coaches.

          This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

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          BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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          @daninnyc said:

          Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know".

          I have a lot more faith in Haslam, clean house,start anew, get rid of everything that has Lerner taint still on it.

          "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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            @daninnyc said:

            This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

            Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

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            BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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            @mark-o said:

            Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

            What's wrong with a little T & A ?

            I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same.

            Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look.

            "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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              Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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              I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster.

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                halfsaneH halfsane wrote on last edited by
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                Homgren - fine.. get his fat ass outta here.

                Hecket needs to be fairly evaluated. I think he has earned his stay.

                Shurms could save his job this year if the team keeps making strides. They are improving nearly each week and until they stop improving, shurmur should be retained (even if i do want to punch his face).

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                  @mark-o said:

                  Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

                  What's wrong with a little T & A ?

                  I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same.

                  Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look.

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                  dustyD dusty wrote on last edited by
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                  @badnewsbrowns said:

                  What's wrong with a little T & A ?

                  I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same.

                  Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look.

                  We don't need cheerleaders. We don't need new uniforms. Put together a winning team and the marketing will take care of it's self!

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                    Homgren - fine.. get his fat ass outta here.

                    Hecket needs to be fairly evaluated. I think he has earned his stay.

                    Shurms could save his job this year if the team keeps making strides. They are improving nearly each week and until they stop improving, shurmur should be retained (even if i do want to punch his face).

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                    BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                    @halfsane said:

                    Homgren - fine.. get his fat ass outta here.

                    Hecket needs to be fairly evaluated. I think he has earned his stay.

                    Shurms could save his job this year if the team keeps making strides. They are improving nearly each week and until they stop improving, shurmur should be retained (even if i do want to punch his face).

                    I'd rather start with a clean slate, Heckert is overrated, Shurmur is a fairy.

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                      WRREBELW WRREBEL wrote on last edited by
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                      Thank god!! Bye bye Holmgren!!

                      Holmgren should take Shurmur and his west coast offense to the Cleveland Crush.. I am sure they cold turn them around!

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                        BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                        Haslam will be live on ESPN Cleveland.

                        http://www.espncleveland.com/

                        "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                          B Brown Skids wrote on last edited by
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                          There were some things I did despise about Pussy as well, like forcing his system on players and hiring the worst coach in the league in Vagina.

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                            BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                            "All Truth Passes Through Three stages. First, It Is Ridiculed, Second It Is Violently Opposed, And Third, It Is Accepted As Self-Evident" ~Arthur Schopenhauer
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                              I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster.

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                              TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by TheClevelandSound
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                              @mark-o said:

                              I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster.

                              ^^^ this.

                              And Heckkkkkert better stay. He is the best thing that has happened to Cleveland since 1999.

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                                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                NFL network to carry the Haslem presser at 1:20 pm

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  @badnewsbrowns said:

                                  What's wrong with a little T & A ?

                                  I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same.

                                  Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look.

                                  We don't need cheerleaders. We don't need new uniforms. Put together a winning team and the marketing will take care of it's self!

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                                  hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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                                  @dusty said:

                                  We don't need cheerleaders. We don't need new uniforms. Put together a winning team and the marketing will take care of it's self!

                                  Cheerleaders are a marketing expense- you think they're going to work for free? I've been to plenty of away games, and to me cheerleaders are a distraction (Ben-gals). You want cheerleaders, go to your local High school game or Ohio State's. IMHO don't need cheerleaders. Start playing exciting football, and the cheering will take care of itself.

                                  You want to see T&A, there's plenty of great free porn available 24\7 on the Internet.

                                  & We've been through this 1,000 times on the board. The uniforms have already been "tweaked" a bunch of times. Orange pants, Brown pants. One thing that should NEVER be changed is the helmet. As the only team in the NFL that doesn't have a logo on the helmet- that makes it unique. You probably would think Penn State should put a Nittany Lion (whatever the hell that is) on their helmets too.

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                                    @mark-o said:

                                    I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster.

                                    ^^^ this.

                                    And Heckkkkkert better stay. He is the best thing that has happened to Cleveland since 1999.

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                                    BadNewsBrownsB BadNewsBrowns wrote on last edited by
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                                    @theclevelandsound said:

                                    And Heckkkkkert better stay. He is the best thing that has happened to Cleveland since 1999.

                                    That's arguable, and even if it were true it still doesn't mean he's good enough.

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                                      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                      The presser is on now

                                      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                        @daninnyc said:

                                        This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it.

                                        Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

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                                        D DanInNYC wrote on last edited by
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                                        @mark-o said:

                                        Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets.

                                        Cheerleaders are not lame.

                                        @mark-o said:

                                        I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster.

                                        I am not saying to change the colors, but a new design and mixing it up with some different combinations of orange and brown as well as something fresher than just stripes at the shoulder pads would be cool with me and all of my friends who are Browns fans. I like what the Seahawks did with their uni's for example. I think "PR disaster" is a bit exaggerated.

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                                          TheClevelandSoundT TheClevelandSound wrote on last edited by
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                                          Haslam: "We are going to look at everything...except for the helmet"

                                          Yay!

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