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  • Anyone know how we got that elf in the first place? I like it, but my wife has asked why it is our "mascot" and I don't have a good answer other than "Because...History!"

    @bonedawg said:

    Anyone know how we got that elf in the first place? I like it, but my wife has asked why it is our "mascot" and I don't have a good answer other than "Because...History!"

    The internet is an amazing invention, no? 😉

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownie_%28folklore%29

    http://www.clevescene.com/64-and-counting/archives/2009/11/18/a-little-history-of-brownie-the-elf

  • how did this thread about the fat fish eating blubber filled douchebag getting fired turn into another gay uniform thread, then a cheeleading thread?

    man let a mother fucker enjoy the firing of the walrus. you pussies and your uniform fascination need to go fuck each other in the ass and just get it over with.

    faggots.

    (see what you mods have done. think i got around it ok.

  • Haslam will treat the team like a business. A win-win scenario for him and us. If he make the team remotely better than it has been, the team will instantly gain value and us slighted Browns fans will rejoice from the top of Key Tower. Added bonus: he clearly loves football, not futbol.

    Heckerrrt (autocorrects to penis, wtf?) is a solid FO member but is not GM material. He needs to be placed as the Player Personnel Director at the end of the season. His whole declination of free agency is kinda ridiculous. Assuming our rookie class begins to make us competitive in the next few years, we will have to pick up quality free agents to get to bigger and better things (playoffs, maybe?)

    Don't fire Shur-mur (autocorrects to Vagina, wtf??????). Anyways, firing a coach in the middle of the season brings in so many negative externalities. He sucks as a coach, but even bringing the likes of say Cowher in right in the middle of the season will offer hardly any benefit. Anyone that has played football knows that learning a new playbook is about just as hard as it gets

    Walrus, peace out with your status quo mentality. You won't be missed by many.

    @horn-of-lake-erie said:

    Haslam will treat the team like a business. A win-win scenario for him and us. If he make the team remotely better than it has been, the team will instantly gain value and us slighted Browns fans will rejoice from the top of Key Tower. Added bonus: he clearly loves football, not futbol.

    Heckerrrt (autocorrects to penis, wtf?) is a solid FO member but is not GM material. He needs to be placed as the Player Personnel Director at the end of the season. His whole declination of free agency is kinda ridiculous. Assuming our rookie class begins to make us competitive in the next few years, we will have to pick up quality free agents to get to bigger and better things (playoffs, maybe?)

    Don't fire Shur-mur (autocorrects to Vagina, wtf??????). Anyways, firing a coach in the middle of the season brings in so many negative externalities. He sucks as a coach, but even bringing the likes of say Cowher in right in the middle of the season will offer hardly any benefit. Anyone that has played football knows that learning a new playbook is about just as hard as it gets

    Walrus, peace out with your status quo mentality. You won't be missed by many.

    AH...Uhm, the "refusal" to sign Free Agents this past year may in fact have not been Penis's choice....but may have been a directive of Randy Lerner's. If he knew he was going to sell the team he may not have wanted to saddle the prospective buyer with high priced free agent contracts.

    We all were scratching our heads wondering why the no FA policy, but in light of what happened with the sale it all now makes sense.

  • @horn-of-lake-erie said:

    Haslam will treat the team like a business. A win-win scenario for him and us. If he make the team remotely better than it has been, the team will instantly gain value and us slighted Browns fans will rejoice from the top of Key Tower. Added bonus: he clearly loves football, not futbol.

    Heckerrrt (autocorrects to penis, wtf?) is a solid FO member but is not GM material. He needs to be placed as the Player Personnel Director at the end of the season. His whole declination of free agency is kinda ridiculous. Assuming our rookie class begins to make us competitive in the next few years, we will have to pick up quality free agents to get to bigger and better things (playoffs, maybe?)

    Don't fire Shur-mur (autocorrects to Vagina, wtf??????). Anyways, firing a coach in the middle of the season brings in so many negative externalities. He sucks as a coach, but even bringing the likes of say Cowher in right in the middle of the season will offer hardly any benefit. Anyone that has played football knows that learning a new playbook is about just as hard as it gets

    Walrus, peace out with your status quo mentality. You won't be missed by many.

    AH...Uhm, the "refusal" to sign Free Agents this past year may in fact have not been Penis's choice....but may have been a directive of Randy Lerner's. If he knew he was going to sell the team he may not have wanted to saddle the prospective buyer with high priced free agent contracts.

    We all were scratching our heads wondering why the no FA policy, but in light of what happened with the sale it all now makes sense.

    @the-gipper said:

    AH...Uhm, the "refusal" to sign Free Agents this past year may in fact have not been Penis's choice....but may have been a directive of Randy Lerner's. If he knew he was going to sell the team he may not have wanted to saddle the prospective buyer with high priced free agent contracts.

    We all were scratching our heads wondering why the no FA policy, but in light of what happened with the sale it all now makes sense.

    Good point Gip. It was befuddling why we made no attempt to pursue any free agents. It's a new day in Believeland. Too early to tell if there is going to be sunshine or just more gray in the factory of sadness.

  • I love how some topics get picked on by the "In crowd". Look, what are you guys going to go do when Haslam does do something. Quit, cry, take your ball and go home. That's elementary school mentality I read out of a lot of you. We're do for a face lift. I'm for it. Bring it on.

  • yo brownskid, what are you in h.s. home economics or something? sure the unis can use an uplift but that's not what this thread was about, buttwipe. it was about holmgren being gone after the season. but you and some other pole smokers have to keep riddling threads at any opportunity to talk about your favorite subject: changing the uniforms.

    why don't you save up your lunch money and buy a one way bus ticket here to ny where you can study fashion at some of the finest schools. just know that you'll probably be working at some bath house 20 hrs a day to pay for your tuition. i guess you could probably live with your gay pimp bruno to cut down on costs.

    pussy bitch.

    for god's sake there is soooo much more pressing needs of this franchise than to woryy about what color browns we need to change to.

  • yo brownskid, what are you in h.s. home economics or something? sure the unis can use an uplift but that's not what this thread was about, buttwipe. it was about holmgren being gone after the season. but you and some other pole smokers have to keep riddling threads at any opportunity to talk about your favorite subject: changing the uniforms.

    why don't you save up your lunch money and buy a one way bus ticket here to ny where you can study fashion at some of the finest schools. just know that you'll probably be working at some bath house 20 hrs a day to pay for your tuition. i guess you could probably live with your gay pimp bruno to cut down on costs.

    pussy bitch.

    for god's sake there is soooo much more pressing needs of this franchise than to woryy about what color browns we need to change to.

    @miktoxic said:

    yo brownskid, what are you in h.s. home economics or something? sure the unis can use an uplift but that's not what this thread was about, buttwipe. it was about holmgren being gone after the season. but you and some other pole smokers have to keep riddling threads at any opportunity to talk about your favorite subject: changing the uniforms.

    why don't you save up your lunch money and buy a one way bus ticket here to ny where you can study fashion at some of the finest schools. just know that you'll probably be working at some bath house 20 hrs a day to pay for your tuition. i guess you could probably live with your gay pimp bruno to cut down on costs.

    pussy bitch.

    for god's sake there is soooo much more pressing needs of this franchise than to woryy about what color browns we need to change to.

    Oh shit, ha ha ha ha ha.

  • Now Profootballtalk.com is noting that Heckerrt thinks he's next to go at end of season.

    IMHO this would be a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake.

    Heckerrt has this team full of young, fast, talented players. There hasn't been a draft of his I've disliked.

    I'm actually disappointed in Banner coming on board.

  • Now Profootballtalk.com is noting that Heckerrt thinks he's next to go at end of season.

    IMHO this would be a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake.

    Heckerrt has this team full of young, fast, talented players. There hasn't been a draft of his I've disliked.

    I'm actually disappointed in Banner coming on board.

    @thaak said:

    Now Profootballtalk.com is noting that Heckerrt thinks he's next to go at end of season.

    IMHO this would be a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake.

    Heckerrt has this team full of young, fast, talented players. There hasn't been a draft of his I've disliked.

    I'm actually disappointed in Banner coming on board.

    but wouldn't banner be taking holmgren's place? i mean heckert does deserve to stay IMO, BUT sometimes people burn bridges. hopefully heckert and banner can put what ever differences they had in philly in the past and concentrate on building a winner.

  • I'm confused about that Philly situation. Seems to me there HAD to be some head butting there, but I would think it might be more Banner & Reid or Heckert & Reid. I guess we'll eventually see.

    Any way it plays out, I am excited about an owner who CARES!

    Mike

  • I'm confused about that Philly situation. Seems to me there HAD to be some head butting there, but I would think it might be more Banner & Reid or Heckert & Reid. I guess we'll eventually see.

    Any way it plays out, I am excited about an owner who CARES!

    Mike

    @canton-mike said:

    I'm confused about that Philly situation. Seems to me there HAD to be some head butting there, but I would think it might be more Banner & Reid or Heckert & Reid. I guess we'll eventually see.

    Any way it plays out, I am excited about an owner who CARES!

    Mike

    I think Banner had final say on the decisions in Philly. Reid also had a lot of input,Heckert was not the authority as he is with the Browns which is probably what attracted him here.

    For what it's worth,Dustin Fox from 92.3 the fan, who played for the Eagles in 2006 has said Heckert and Banner did not have a good relationship.

  • Mary Kay Cabot said earlier that Heckert doesn't think he'll be around and he's been exploring new employment possibilities around the league since August.

  • how did this thread about the fat fish eating blubber filled douchebag getting fired turn into another gay uniform thread, then a cheeleading thread?

    man let a mother fucker enjoy the firing of the walrus. you pussies and your uniform fascination need to go fuck each other in the ass and just get it over with.

    faggots.

    (see what you mods have done. think i got around it ok.

    @miktoxic said:

    how did this thread about the fat fish eating blubber filled douchebag getting fired turn into another gay uniform thread, then a cheeleading thread?

    man let a mother fucker enjoy the firing of the walrus. you pussies and your uniform fascination need to go fuck each other in the ass and just get it over with.

    faggots.

    (see what you mods have done. think i got around it ok.

    Yep - you're one to take seriously. Good work. I didn't realize I was disrupting Haslam's day by talking about the direction of the overall fukin' franchise.

    You and fans like you a big part of the problem with the Browns and how this city and fans are percieved. Do all of us a favor and go root for the Raiders - maybe you can kill a niner fan or do something else constructive.

    Why don't you grow up PunkBitch.

  • Mary Kay Cabot said earlier that Heckert doesn't think he'll be around and he's been exploring new employment possibilities around the league since August.

    @badnewsbrowns said:

    Mary Kay Cabot said earlier that Heckert doesn't think he'll be around and he's been exploring new employment possibilities around the league since August.

    Well that sucks. He's been our best GM ever since we've gotten our team back.

  • @miktoxic said:

    how did this thread about the fat fish eating blubber filled douchebag getting fired turn into another gay uniform thread, then a cheeleading thread?

    man let a mother fucker enjoy the firing of the walrus. you pussies and your uniform fascination need to go fuck each other in the ass and just get it over with.

    faggots.

    (see what you mods have done. think i got around it ok.

    Yep - you're one to take seriously. Good work. I didn't realize I was disrupting Haslam's day by talking about the direction of the overall fukin' franchise.

    You and fans like you a big part of the problem with the Browns and how this city and fans are percieved. Do all of us a favor and go root for the Raiders - maybe you can kill a niner fan or do something else constructive.

    Why don't you grow up PunkBitch.

    @squintz said:

    Yep - you're one to take seriously. Good work. I didn't realize I was disrupting Haslam's day by talking about the direction of the overall fukin' franchise.

    You and fans like you a big part of the problem with the Browns and how this city and fans are percieved. Do all of us a favor and go root for the Raiders - maybe you can kill a niner fan or do something else constructive.

    Why don't you grow up PunkBitch.

    don't come from cleveland. never lived there. even if i did what does that have to do with anything? the thread is about holmgren getting canned and all you little cherrie cream puffs want to do is bring in chatter about new uniforms.

    i was a fan of this team while you were just a twinkle in your mother's eyes. too bad the best part of you ran down her legs on the way to the bathroom. betcha you're an oregon ducks fan, huh? not because you know anything about football but because you love the unis. do you call all your other faggot friends over when they play and critique the color combinations of that week, then follow it up by a 12 hour 'queer eye for the straight guy' marathon?

    if i'm a punkbitch then you are a bitch of a punkbitch, bitch.

    now go back to sucking your mom's cock and diddlin your dad in his worn out cunt.

    squintz huh? sounds like what your asshole tries to do after getting repeatedly ass-raped by the boys down at the rawhide. either that or what your eyes will be doing after they're all black and blue motherfucker.

  • Now Profootballtalk.com is noting that Heckerrt thinks he's next to go at end of season.

    IMHO this would be a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake.

    Heckerrt has this team full of young, fast, talented players. There hasn't been a draft of his I've disliked.

    I'm actually disappointed in Banner coming on board.

    @thaak said:

    Now Profootballtalk.com is noting that Heckerrt thinks he's next to go at end of season.

    IMHO this would be a HUGE, HUGE, HUGE, HUGE mistake.

    Heckerrt has this team full of young, fast, talented players. There hasn't been a draft of his I've disliked.

    I'm actually disappointed in Banner coming on board.

    I would like to see Heckert retain his job, especially considering I have no clue who could be brought in and do better. Overall, I think he has done a good job of both bringing in talent and addressing team needs. As for Banner, he is not a talent evaluator, but a contract/cap guy. Also, some of what I have seen from Eagles fans is not that encouraging. Here are some of the better photoshopped images from a fan site most of which portray him as a cheapskate:

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  • Here is the problem with this... When the Browns change their uniforms within the next two or three years, the majority of fan will want the originals (or something close to) back in about seven or eight years. Look at what happened with the 49ers and Bills and what is soon to happen to the Jaguars, Falcons, and Vikings. People want the clean classic looks back. Very few modern jerseys work (and last) in the NFL.

  • @squintz said:

    Yep - you're one to take seriously. Good work. I didn't realize I was disrupting Haslam's day by talking about the direction of the overall fukin' franchise.

    You and fans like you a big part of the problem with the Browns and how this city and fans are percieved. Do all of us a favor and go root for the Raiders - maybe you can kill a niner fan or do something else constructive.

    Why don't you grow up PunkBitch.

    don't come from cleveland. never lived there. even if i did what does that have to do with anything? the thread is about holmgren getting canned and all you little cherrie cream puffs want to do is bring in chatter about new uniforms.

    i was a fan of this team while you were just a twinkle in your mother's eyes. too bad the best part of you ran down her legs on the way to the bathroom. betcha you're an oregon ducks fan, huh? not because you know anything about football but because you love the unis. do you call all your other faggot friends over when they play and critique the color combinations of that week, then follow it up by a 12 hour 'queer eye for the straight guy' marathon?

    if i'm a punkbitch then you are a bitch of a punkbitch, bitch.

    now go back to sucking your mom's cock and diddlin your dad in his worn out cunt.

    squintz huh? sounds like what your asshole tries to do after getting repeatedly ass-raped by the boys down at the rawhide. either that or what your eyes will be doing after they're all black and blue motherfucker.

    @miktoxic said:

    don't come from cleveland. never lived there. even if i did what does that have to do with anything? the thread is about holmgren getting canned and all you little cherrie cream puffs want to do is bring in chatter about new uniforms.

    i was a fan of this team while you were just a twinkle in your mother's eyes. too bad the best part of you ran down her legs on the way to the bathroom. betcha you're an oregon ducks fan, huh? not because you know anything about football but because you love the unis. do you call all your other faggot friends over when they play and critique the color combinations of that week, then follow it up by a 12 hour 'queer eye for the straight guy' marathon?

    if i'm a punkbitch then you are a bitch of a punkbitch, bitch.

    now go back to sucking your mom's cock and diddlin your dad in his worn out cunt.

    squintz huh? sounds like what your asshole tries to do after getting repeatedly ass-raped by the boys down at the rawhide. either that or what your eyes will be doing after they're all black and blue motherfucker.

    All class, all class.

    For the record the Ducks are bitches and I'm not a fan of all the funky uni's. Proud Buckeye through and through here.

    I didn't realize I was dealing with a degenerate wanna be tough guy who still lives in his mom's basement.

    Stay in New York. You're perfect there.

    Now let's see what other fancy swear words you heard while at band camp...

  • @miktoxic said:

    don't come from cleveland. never lived there. even if i did what does that have to do with anything? the thread is about holmgren getting canned and all you little cherrie cream puffs want to do is bring in chatter about new uniforms.

    i was a fan of this team while you were just a twinkle in your mother's eyes. too bad the best part of you ran down her legs on the way to the bathroom. betcha you're an oregon ducks fan, huh? not because you know anything about football but because you love the unis. do you call all your other faggot friends over when they play and critique the color combinations of that week, then follow it up by a 12 hour 'queer eye for the straight guy' marathon?

    if i'm a punkbitch then you are a bitch of a punkbitch, bitch.

    now go back to sucking your mom's cock and diddlin your dad in his worn out cunt.

    squintz huh? sounds like what your asshole tries to do after getting repeatedly ass-raped by the boys down at the rawhide. either that or what your eyes will be doing after they're all black and blue motherfucker.

    All class, all class.

    For the record the Ducks are bitches and I'm not a fan of all the funky uni's. Proud Buckeye through and through here.

    I didn't realize I was dealing with a degenerate wanna be tough guy who still lives in his mom's basement.

    Stay in New York. You're perfect there.

    Now let's see what other fancy swear words you heard while at band camp...

    @squintz said:

    All class, all class.

    For the record the Ducks are bitches and I'm not a fan of all the funky uni's. Proud Buckeye through and through here.

    I didn't realize I was dealing with a degenerate wanna be tough guy who still lives in his mom's basement.

    Stay in New York. You're perfect there.

    Now let's see what other fancy swear words you heard while at band camp...

    yeah then why are you so fascinated with changing the browns uniform?

    my parents and grandparents have been dead for years so i don't have the luxury that you do to live with them.

    what i do have is a car and google maps. so let me know where you live or where you want to meet or if you want me to pick you up from the airport. so you can pm me and give me your address or i'll give you mine.

    i'll be sure to bring a smart phone or vid camera to show me wrapping your face up in cellophane while you turn purple and squirm like a wallabee on SD's sea shore docks. this of course after kicking in your ribs right outside your sternum.

    until i see your address you are a pussy cunt.