At This Point I Don't Care

[Kosar_For_President]

You know what, it is not an excuse and haven't see this until now because I fell asleep watching this shootout, but he did hit the sunlight right at that point.

[slimdawg]

@kosar_for_president said:

You know what, it is not an excuse and haven't see this until now because I fell asleep watching this shootout, but he did hit the sunlight right at that point.

Yep, i gotta chalk that one up to the sun. I gotta believe that if the roof was closed, he hauls that one in.

Really tough break. What did you think about the pass though? Weeden put it out there right on the money! Do any of you think that colt makes that pretty pass?? LOL

[Kosar_For_President]

@slimdawg said:

Yep, i gotta chalk that one up to the sun. I gotta believe that if the roof was closed, he hauls that one in.

Really tough break. What did you think about the pass though? Weeden put it out there right on the money! Do any of you think that colt makes that pretty pass?? LOL

It was right on the money, Weeden is getting better. This is not a bad team at least not a 1-6 team, I'm telling you. Colt does not even attempt the pass.

[jbluhm86]

@theclevelandsound said:

It's fans like you that help influence the instability of the franchise.

Sit down, shut up, and let the people in charge make the decisions. There is a reason you are sitting on your couch and not working with a franchise.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you personally work for the Cleveland Browns franchise, then you need to STFU. And what has the people "in charge" done for this franchise recently? Two winning seasons and one playoff appearance in 13 years. You may be satisfied with that, but I assure you most Browns fans are not. And I realize that we have a young team who makes mistakes; that's to be expected. But the great teams in this league find ways to win, regardless of the age of players or any other excuses. Say what you want about the Browns "almost" winning games or only losing by a touchdown or less; at the end of the day, almost winning is still fucking losing. We're 1-6, and that is unacceptable. I'm not saying that JH3 has to blow things up and start from scratch, but something has to change, because the whatever plan that is in place at the moment is not working and producing winning results.

[Kosar_For_President]

@jbluhm86 said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but unless you personally work for the Cleveland Browns franchise, then you need to STFU. And what has the people "in charge" done for this franchise recently? Two winning seasons and one playoff appearance in 13 years. You may be satisfied with that, but I assure you most Browns fans are not. And I realize that we have a young team who makes mistakes; that's to be expected. But the great teams in this league find ways to win, regardless of the age of players or any other excuses. Say what you want about the Browns "almost" winning games or only losing by a touchdown or less; at the end of the day, almost winning is still fucking losing. We're 1-6, and that is unacceptable. I'm not saying that JH3 has to blow things up and start from scratch, but something has to change, because the whatever plan that is in place at the moment is not working and producing winning results.

I agree with the Sound, the reason why we are 1-6 is because we keep changing shit. But who's fault is that? Lerner, he's a pussy and glad he is gone. Haslam needs to hire "the Coach" and let him develop these players. None of this, well we all worked together and it worked than, so it must work now bullshit.

One more change, Haslem, fire Shumur already and let's start this thing.

[baybrownsfan]

I will be honest, Weeden is the best looking QB I have seen us have since we have been back. This guy looks like the real fucking deal right now. He should have had 300 yards and 3 tds this game except for the goddamn sun.

[jbluhm86]

@kosar_for_president said:

... the reason why we are 1-6 is because we keep changing shit.

I wholeheartedly agree with you that continually changing things without any sort of direction like we did in the past would not be the right move. But to just sit here at 1-6 and stay the course as the coaches and FO has it scripted right now would be equally as ineffective. We have a lot of great pieces in place, true, but for some reason or another we are not getting the desired results. Our players are either underperforming, or more likely, they are not being utilized as effectively as they could be. If that's the case, that means whatever game plan we have in place now needs to be scrapped. How much longer can Browns fans keep using the excuse of "well, we have a team full of rookies", or "this is only Shurmur's 2nd year of head coaching", etc. before we can finally admit to ourselves that those excuses don't fly anymore and that the team needs to hold themselves accountable for their lack of results on the field? As I said earlier, I'm not advocating that JH3 come in and blow shit up and start from scratch, but some sort of change has to happen and it has to happen ASAP if we have any hopes of remotely having a respectable season.

[jbluhm86]

I think this quote from Banner in his introduction speech sums up my views perfectly:

"I view continuity as an important element,” Banner said. “You have to pick the right time to kind of begin the clock on continuity. When you feel like you’ve got the organization set up with the right people, then you have continuity.”

As it stands right now, the Browns organization does not have all the right personnel in place to produce a winning team; until the changes are made to correct that, then the point of having continuity is moot.

[dab7291993]

What also kind of sucked is that Luck threw toward Haden like 3 times, tops. Haden shut his side of the field down, but he's just one player

[Jibz]

Weeden is the QB us fans have been waited for. Cooper - Gorden - Little are going to be a great receiving corp for years to come..... give them time... We've waited this l-o-n-g. Real Browns fans will cheer and watch as we develop into the Browns team we can be proud of.

You little bitches that ONLY complain and talk shit should just jump on another team and shut up already or watch MLB...somebody has to!