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  • titleist585 T
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    With their season ending earlier than some expected, the Carolina Panthers will now have to turn their attention toward retaining two key players for 2009 and beyond. Offensive tackle Jordan Gross and defensive end Julius Peppers are both free agents and it may be difficult for the team to fit both under their salary cap without serious pruning elsewhere on the roster.

    The Panthers are $10 million under the cap for 2009, which wouldn’t be enough to sign both men. A franchise tender to Peppers would cost in the neighborhood of $17 million and a long-term deal would average around $13 million, according to a report from the Charlotte Observer. The same report indicates that the team and Peppers’s agent Carl Carey are negotiating a deal. When asked about his desire to stay with the Panthers after last night’s game, Peppers said he wanted to make the “best decision for myself and for the Panthers’ organization.”

    One way the Panthers could clear cap space would be cutting ties with Jake Delhomme, a move that probably became more likely after his six turnovers against the Cardinals. Adam Schefter reports that they’d save $6.325 million if they released the quarterback, a number that may prove too big to pass up.

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      @inspecta said:

      Mr T and I were exchanging txt messages on this very subject last night after his 6th turnover. I told one of my panther fan friends "You guys should go after DA, he would of only thrown 3 picks tonight"

      What did your friend write back?

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        ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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        Anderson is going to generate interest. If any position peeks interest, it's a qb.

        But first, we are going to have to pay the roster bonus due in March, and get through the FA period. Then teams will figure out they need a QB and will look to make a deal.

        If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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          Anderson is going to generate interest. If any position peeks interest, it's a qb.

          But first, we are going to have to pay the roster bonus due in March, and get through the FA period. Then teams will figure out they need a QB and will look to make a deal.

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          nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
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          @ballpeen said:

          Anderson is going to generate interest. If any position peeks interest, it's a qb.

          But first, we are going to have to pay the roster bonus due in March, and get through the FA period. Then teams will figure out they need a QB and will look to make a deal.

          Peen nobody wants to get rid of DA more than I do but seriousely?...After watching his performances or lack thereof and looking at film on him...honestly...would you touch him?....not me if I were GM of a team...

          Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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            listercatL listercat wrote on last edited by
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            @inspecta said:

            Mr T and I were exchanging txt messages on this very subject last night after his 6th turnover. I told one of my panther fan friends "You guys should go after DA, he would of only thrown 3 picks tonight"

            LOL...please PLEASE take DA

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            • The Italian DawgPound The Italian DawgPoundT
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              The Italian DawgPoundT The Italian DawgPound wrote on last edited by
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              DA will have market. Despite the lousy 08 season.

              All the way from Torino to Cleveland: GO BROWNS!!!!!!!
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                D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                Somebody will be intrigued with DA, maybe even enough to give him a fair shot to earn a starting job.

                He will NOT get a free pass to a starting job like he did here, however.

                But he has shown more than enough to intrigue a QB-starved team and Carolina may just be back in the hunt for a legit QB after Delhomme's historic meltdown last night.

                Y'know, come to think of it, I'd have NO problem with Delhomme as Quinn's backup/mentor. He likely won't easily accept a backup role but we both now have QBs who may have worn out their welcome.

                How about DA and our 5th for Delhomme and their 3rd? If tit's info is correct and Delhomme would cost them $6+ mil in '09 then DA would be at least a little savings and with much more arm and upside (potentially).

                I'm just glad another potential trade partner has seemingly opened up. Good job, Jake!

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                  @ballpeen said:

                  Anderson is going to generate interest. If any position peeks interest, it's a qb.

                  But first, we are going to have to pay the roster bonus due in March, and get through the FA period. Then teams will figure out they need a QB and will look to make a deal.

                  Peen nobody wants to get rid of DA more than I do but seriousely?...After watching his performances or lack thereof and looking at film on him...honestly...would you touch him?....not me if I were GM of a team...

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                  ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                  @nickers said:

                  Peen nobody wants to get rid of DA more than I do but seriousely?...After watching his performances or lack thereof and looking at film on him...honestly...would you touch him?....not me if I were GM of a team...

                  Yes....as will others.

                  His season last year(07) was pretty decent....beyond the point of being luck or a fluke.....maybe it was to a point beyond what he will do as a norm, but last year was probably just as flukeish.

                  If he did it once, then you know the capability is in there...and that is why people will give him a shot.

                  If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                    ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
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                    You could be right about Carolina. We could probably list 2-3 others that would be prime candidates....Minnesota is one that haw been mentioned...Detroit makes some sense.....maybe Chicago

                    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
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                      B BelievelandBrown wrote on last edited by
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                      Honestly dont care anymore.

                      Anywhere but here.

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                        LumberghL Lumbergh wrote on last edited by
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                        @shepwrite said:

                        Carolina was interested in him before... and they won't get anywhere near Stafford or Bradford.

                        shep remember last year when you guaranteed that Carolina would draft a QB in the first 2 rounds?

                        Then remember when draft day came and Carolina didn't draft a QB at all?

                        Word of advice....learn from your past mistakes.

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                          plumcrazy73P plumcrazy73 wrote on last edited by
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                          And lums remember when you said DA was the best QB on the roster? Well he is not. Word of advice... GO AWAY scout out DA's next teams forums and register there and start all over again.

                          “What Can BROWN Do For You!” Record for the year. 9-7 + or - 1 and not being swept by any team in the division.
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                            @shepwrite said:

                            Carolina was interested in him before... and they won't get anywhere near Stafford or Bradford.

                            shep remember last year when you guaranteed that Carolina would draft a QB in the first 2 rounds?

                            Then remember when draft day came and Carolina didn't draft a QB at all?

                            Word of advice....learn from your past mistakes.

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                            D damajuki wrote on last edited by
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                            @lumbergh said:

                            shep remember last year when you guaranteed that Carolina would draft a QB in the first 2 rounds?

                            Then remember when draft day came and Carolina didn't draft a QB at all?

                            Word of advice....learn from your past mistakes.

                            Yeah, they did the same thing that Savage did: they bet on their incumbent QB and lost.

                            Maybe they didn't need Stewart after all? Maybe a QB would have helped them?

                            Anyway, they don't have a QB. We have DA. Hopefully you'll be on Panthers Pride or some other ridiculously named board soon telling them all how great your boy is and mean those Browns fans were to Dewek.

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                              OconReconO OconRecon wrote on last edited by
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                              Rex, forget Favre and check out options

                              Bob Glauber

                              January 21, 2009

                              Rex Ryan will be officially introduced today as the Jets' coach, and it won't be long before reporters grill him on the biggest issue he faces: What to do with Brett Favre?

                              The 39-year-old quarterback continues to deliberate about his future at his Mississippi home and may not have an answer for several weeks. And Ryan will in all likelihood dance around the issue out of respect to Favre.

                              But with the first-year head coach coming off a season watching a rookie quarterback lead the Ravens to the AFC Championship Game, and with Favre coming off a season in which he imploded down the stretch, it is understandable if Ryan wishes to proceed with a different quarterback in 2009.

                              OK, let me put that a different way: If Ryan thinks Favre is the answer, he's nuts.

                              Favre is long past his prime, had arm problems late in the season and lost four of his last five games, throwing two touchdown passes and nine interceptions. His partially torn right biceps might need surgery. But does Ryan really want an aging, ailing quarterback for his first season?

                              If there's any doubt, perhaps Ryan should look at Favre's downward trend the last four seasons. In December games since 2005, Favre has thrown 13 TD passes and 31 interceptions.

                              The numbers don't lie.

                              Favre has been a pleasure to watch for the majority of his mostly brilliant career. Believe me, there is no joy in writing that it is time to retire. But the time comes for all the great ones, and Favre's time has come. It is over. So what does Ryan do at football's most important position? There are plenty of options to deal with life after Favre:

                              Sign Matt Cassel in a nanosecond if he's a free agent

                              OK, so it's not going to happen, because the Patriots are almost certain to use the franchise tag on Cassel with the uncertainty surrounding Tom Brady's recovery from knee surgery. But stranger things have happened. If the Pats let him go, it's a no-brainer to go after him.

                              Trade for Derek Anderson

                              The Browns quarterback will almost certainly be on the market after losing his job to Brady Quinn. If former Jets coach Eric Mangini, now the Browns' boss, wants to keep one or the other, Anderson would surely be the one to go.

                              I think he is a decent quarterback who was caught up in an awful situation this season. He's 25. He's 6-5, 230. He has a big arm. In 2007, he threw for 29 TDs and ran for three. This season, with Quinn hovering and a preseason concussion leaving Anderson unprepared for the regular season, he stumbled badly. But there is still something there. He's worth consideration.

                              Bring back Kellen Clemens and Brett Ratliff

                              Let them slug it out in a training-camp competition.

                              This is the most viable option, and it's likely to happen. Clemens still has a year left on his rookie contract, and Ratliff showed plenty of promise.

                              A few minutes after Favre was introduced at a news conference in Cleveland after his Aug. 6 trade, Ratliff put on a terrific show in his only meaningful playing time in the preseason. His first pass was a 71-yard touchdown to David Clowney, and Ratliff also threw a 70-yard TD to Clowney. Ratliff turned into an afterthought once Favre came aboard, but his performance in preseason, when he outplayed Clemens, should not be forgotten.

                              Clemens believes he's better for having been around Favre and Chad Pennington, and there's no reason not to give him one more shot. He might not have it, but sometimes it takes a few years for the light to come on for a quarterback.

                              Draft a quarterback

                              Forget about Georgia's Matthew Stafford. He'll be a Lion in 2009. But USC's Mark Sanchez might be there at No. 17, or the Jets can try to move up. Sanchez may not be ready to play right away, but that's what the Ravens thought about Joe Flacco.

                              There are other options, none of them likely or palatable. Kurt Warner's contract is up, but he won't play anywhere but Arizona. Kerry Collins wants to start in Tennessee or retire. Rex Grossman is far too erratic.

                              The preference here: Trade for Anderson, bring back Clemens and Ratliff, and let the thing play itself out.

                              Sign free agent Byron Leftwich

                              The Steelers' backup did well in limited action in place of the injured Ben Roethlisberger. With starting experience from his days in Jacksonville, it's too soon to write him off as a full-time starter.

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                                Riffer XR Riffer X wrote on last edited by
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                                Hey, I'm liking that excuse about the concussion being the reason he is a serial drive killer.

                                We need to pimp that league wide and maybe throw in that Edwards was also hurt in camp and caused the downfall of Dexter Anderson.

                                I can see the reports now: "We hate to let this guy go, but we are in a position where we have to go with Queen and DA deserves more than to sit pine, he truly is a starter in this league."

                                This can work, and there isn't a ton of film from this year to totally condemn him. It's already time to start bragging him up.

                                Is a pig's ass pork?
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                                  Hey, I'm liking that excuse about the concussion being the reason he is a serial drive killer.

                                  We need to pimp that league wide and maybe throw in that Edwards was also hurt in camp and caused the downfall of Dexter Anderson.

                                  I can see the reports now: "We hate to let this guy go, but we are in a position where we have to go with Queen and DA deserves more than to sit pine, he truly is a starter in this league."

                                  This can work, and there isn't a ton of film from this year to totally condemn him. It's already time to start bragging him up.

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                                  Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by Legacy Fan
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                                  @riffer-x said:

                                  ..of Dexter Anderson.

                                  😆 Great line, great show.

                                  Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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