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Beginning To Think Weeden Sucks

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  • BrownsFan4EvrB BrownsFan4Evr

    @hunt-daddy said:

    Shut the fuck up with this shit. If McCoy is so much better we wouldn't have drafted a quarterback in the first round.

    Today Weeden sucked! Never said McCoy was better. I said Weeden wasn't any better than McCoy. My point is they BOTH suck! We're still looking for a QB IMHO.

    @brownsfan4evr said:

    Today Weeden sucked! Never said McCoy was better. I said Weeden wasn't any better than McCoy. My point is they BOTH suck! We're still looking for a QB IMHO.

    So you are saying that they are equals... Why even bring up McCoy if that is the case...

  • I agree he looked terrible.

    But he's had more games where he's looked good than he has where he's looked bad, which is more than McCoy can say.

    And by "looked good", I don't mean passed your "eyeball test". I mean a rating of at least 80, which is considered an average rating.

    FWIW, Weeden has 4 games with a rating over 80, just as many as Colt had all last season.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • USFBrownU USFBrown

    Holy shit. The guy is a rookie. He's gonna have ups and downs. We lost this game because we can't finish drives with TDs.

    @usfbrown said:

    Holy shit. The guy is a rookie. He's gonna have ups and downs. We lost this game because we can't finish drives with TDs.

    Yep he is a rookie but the problem is........he is a 29 year old rookie. He needs to be really good now.

  • Weeden blowz... been saying it since DAY 1. Wakeup

  • Weeden looked bad, i won't sit there and say he didn't. But I can't reiterate enough times that Shurmer is the reason we're losing football games. I had this little glimmer of hope that Shurmer saw the light and realized the only way to win football games is to throw down the field. Then we have another game like today where any time the browns are 3rd and 5 or more we might as well punt.

    Stat line of the game: 20/37 for 187 yards for Weeden. That's less than 4 yards per attempt. That type of stuff is not on the QB people, that's play calling. I have to admit this is the only thing I'll give the Colt sympathizers. No QB could have gone out with the plays called today and won, plain and simple. It's embarrassing really how bad the whole game was managed by good ol Shurms.

  • Kosar_For_PresidentK Kosar_For_President

    Blame Weeden all you want, we lost this game because of Shurmur.

    @kosar_for_president said:

    Blame Weeden all you want, we lost this game because of Shurmur.

    Exactlly. Weeden played bad, but our coach was WAY WAY WAY worse

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • Orange85 said:

    I am sick of all of the Weeden vs. McCoy posts. I agree that the play calling is costing us much more than any QB. Why when we have 3rd and 1 and they have not stopped TR all day do we pass? We are the most predictable offense in the NFL. I refuse to blame the players. We are young and we are making youth mistakes. But the play calling is miserable.

    Thank you. Screw the QB controversy, shurmer is the problem. Worst play caller and clock manager in the nfl besides Romeo

    👍

  • When will people understand that even if a team wanted McCoy they weren't gonna trade for him when they can sign him as an Unrestricted FA next season?

  • They need to implement more hurry up into the offense. Weeden is comfortable, and I can recall numerous hurried drives this season that the Browns actually drove down the field, relatively quickly, unlike last year. Play to his strengths when you are down and need to move the chains.

    All I know is that regardless of how good or how terrible Weeden has looked during this Rookie season, he (along with the playmakers) at least gives us fans hope that a big play can happen. The only thing sapping that hope is the awful playcalling 80% of the time.

    miktoxicM KosarfanK 2 Replies

  • The vanilla play calling within the 35 is what lost this game. Shurmur tried to play mistake free ball, which shows that he doesn't have the huevos to be a HC in the NFL. To top it off, he goes for it on 4th down on his own end of the field with 3:54 left and 2 time outs.

    Don't throw this all on Weeden's shoulders, the guy is a rookie. He made some poor choices, but that is expected. Anyone clamoring for McCoy doesn't remember how ineffective he was as a QB in the NFL.

    Start praying for Sean Payton.

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  • OP dont be a pole smoker. Weeden is the guy moving forward. Can we get some f'ing continuity in this town, please?!

  • M mdmusch

    They need to implement more hurry up into the offense. Weeden is comfortable, and I can recall numerous hurried drives this season that the Browns actually drove down the field, relatively quickly, unlike last year. Play to his strengths when you are down and need to move the chains.

    All I know is that regardless of how good or how terrible Weeden has looked during this Rookie season, he (along with the playmakers) at least gives us fans hope that a big play can happen. The only thing sapping that hope is the awful playcalling 80% of the time.

    @mdmusch said:

    Weeden is comfortable,

    today he was anything BUT comfortable.

    i think it's safe to sat out of all rookie qbs selected in the first round we got the shittiest.

    Canton MikeC 1 Reply

  • I still think that he's comparable to Tannehill. Just look at how many TD's each of them have thrown for.

  • Say what u want but this rookie qb class looks like the best ever. Weeden and Russell are a big reason why.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    miktoxicM 1 Reply
  • R rockyusmc2003

    The vanilla play calling within the 35 is what lost this game. Shurmur tried to play mistake free ball, which shows that he doesn't have the huevos to be a HC in the NFL. To top it off, he goes for it on 4th down on his own end of the field with 3:54 left and 2 time outs.

    Don't throw this all on Weeden's shoulders, the guy is a rookie. He made some poor choices, but that is expected. Anyone clamoring for McCoy doesn't remember how ineffective he was as a QB in the NFL.

    Start praying for Sean Payton.

    @rockyusmc2003 said:

    The vanilla play calling within the 35 is what lost this game. Shurmur tried to play mistake free ball, which shows that he doesn't have the huevos to be a HC in the NFL. To top it off, he goes for it on 4th down on his own end of the field with 3:54 left and 2 time outs.

    Don't throw this all on Weeden's shoulders, the guy is a rookie. He made some poor choices, but that is expected. Anyone clamoring for McCoy doesn't remember how ineffective he was as a QB in the NFL.

    Start praying for Sean Payton.

    Weeden said himself he can't use being a rookie as a mistake.

    Payton is a coach who has thrown 60 times a game. I don't want that.

    I want a balanced coach like Jim Harbaugh, I know it might not be possible, but that's my ideal coach

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @mdmusch said:

    Weeden is comfortable,

    today he was anything BUT comfortable.

    i think it's safe to sat out of all rookie qbs selected in the first round we got the shittiest.

    @miktoxic said:

    today he was anything BUT comfortable.

    i think it's safe to sat out of all rookie qbs selected in the first round we got the shittiest.

    I disagree. Weeden had the misfortune of being drafted into the shittiest situation. He'll be fine after we get some REAL coaching in here & our WRs either develop or we pick up a vet WR or 2. Weeden will be fine.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST
  • cdl15C cdl15

    Say what u want but this rookie qb class looks like the best ever. Weeden and Russell are a big reason why.

    @cdl15 said:

    Say what u want but this rookie qb class looks like the best ever. Weeden and Russell are a big reason why.

    best rookie qb class ever? pleez.

  • Weeds was confused at points for sure. But he looks like that every game. Now why is that?

  • Weeden looked bad today....no doubt. Overall, he has played better than average, and has shown the ability to become an excellent qb. Something was defintiely going on, today, with him. You could tell by his body language, and facial expressions. He didn't want to be there from the opening kickoff. Personally, I have a little more patience with him because of his throwing ability. Now Shurmer?.....I want his ass fired today! He's a joke!....I don't see any good that could possibly come from him being kept in th HC position for another hour. C'mon Haslam!.....show the fans that you want to win, and sooner rather than later.

  • M mdmusch

    They need to implement more hurry up into the offense. Weeden is comfortable, and I can recall numerous hurried drives this season that the Browns actually drove down the field, relatively quickly, unlike last year. Play to his strengths when you are down and need to move the chains.

    All I know is that regardless of how good or how terrible Weeden has looked during this Rookie season, he (along with the playmakers) at least gives us fans hope that a big play can happen. The only thing sapping that hope is the awful playcalling 80% of the time.

    @mdmusch said:

    They need to implement more hurry up into the offense. Weeden is comfortable, and I can recall numerous hurried drives this season that the Browns actually drove down the field, relatively quickly, unlike last year. Play to his strengths when you are down and need to move the chains.

    All I know is that regardless of how good or how terrible Weeden has looked during this Rookie season, he (along with the playmakers) at least gives us fans hope that a big play can happen. The only thing sapping that hope is the awful playcalling 80% of the time.

    I disagree on the hurry up. We had a chance when we got the ball back with approx. 5 mins. left, but Weeden tried to take charge with a hurry up offense and blew through a 3 and out, then our genius coach elects to go for it at 4th with enough time to possibly get the ball back, and save us from a game ending field goal for the Ravens. I thought our last set of downs showed the youth of this team, the worst of our useless coach, the rookie we have of a QB and the intimidation Baltimore is able to bring into our stadium. One of the worst set of downs this season.

    As far Weeden giving us hope of a big play here and there, you're right, there is that glimmer through the game. Stll, curious to see what McCoy could really do. Last season when McCoy got his concussion, Wallace walked out and looked like someone who'd take the win for us, but Shurmur put McCoy back out and we blew it because the kid was seeing stars. Point being, make sure we know what we have on the bench and I'm not convinced McCoy is a complete washout.

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